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Okay.. sorry about the noise. I found out they have brand new XBR55X900A for $1500 or I can get the XBR55X850B for the same $1500.

I understand the 9xx series is higher than the 8xx so is there a compelling reaosn I should choose the 900A toay?

I figured you guys would be my best resource. And I can't read all 12,600 messages in this thread


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One thing we like about the X900A is its passive 3D. However, the 55' X900A has a different 3D than the 65" X900A, which is really the set you want. By different, the 55" presents two 720P images to each eye, while the 65" presents a full 1080P image to each eye.

However, recall that the B series has the ability to stream 4K from sources like Netflix, while the A series needs an external player (another $700) to stream 4K.
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The 55X900A is half resolution 3D like a 1080p TV, it's 540 to each eye
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One thing we like about the X900A is its passive 3D. However, the 55' X900A has a different 3D than the 65" X900A, which is really the set you want. By different, the 55" presents two 720P images to each eye, while the 65" presents a full 1080P image to each eye.

However, recall that the B series has the ability to stream 4K from sources like Netflix, while the A series needs an external player (another $700) to stream 4K.
Neither my wife nor I care about 3d and won't use it but the 4k streaming is something we would use (well, maybe...). I guess the 900a does have nice speakers.

I just didn't know if the 900a had a different panel or vastly superior video processing. Since the original price is so much more than the 850b, I wondered what you got for the difference.

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As someone here stated earlier, guardians of the galaxy has got to be one of the very best 3D blurays out in the market. The,X900A continues to amaze me in how spectacular the passive 3D is. Has there been any other news about 4k bluray? All I've heard is a few reviewers stating its likely coming next year. Tryed 4k streamed on my old X1 but Bluray is my favorite format. Since the price on the X10 is not dropping, I might as well pass. Can't wait to actually see my set at its full potential with 4k bluray
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As someone here stated earlier, guardians of the galaxy has got to be one of the very best 3D blurays out in the market. The,X900A continues to amaze me in how spectacular the passive 3D is. Has there been any other news about 4k bluray? All I've heard is a few reviewers stating its likely coming next year. Tryed 4k streamed on my old X1 but Bluray is my favorite format. Since the price on the X10 is not dropping, I might as well pass. Can't wait to actually see my set at its full potential with 4k bluray
The X10 is not following the X1 pricing. I have one but know it will be obsolete for me once i get a 4k bluray player.
CES in january should have more info on 4K Bluray and timing.
Based on predictions so far we should be buying our players and 4k discs next year at this time.
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Has there been any other news about 4k bluray?
Should be available -- hopefully -- by holiday season next year.

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Neither my wife nor I care about 3d and won't use it but the 4k streaming is something we would use (well, maybe...). I guess the 900a does have nice speakers.

I just didn't know if the 900a had a different panel or vastly superior video processing. Since the original price is so much more than the 850b, I wondered what you got for the difference.

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With tech/gadgets, you can't always assume that you get more for a higher MSRP. The 900A probably cost more due to it being the 1st gen 4k LCDs for Sony and having the nice, integrated speakers. The X850B looks nice, at least if you're planning to wall mount it (I think the B series stands don't look nice at all).
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Well I found out today that evidently the X900A used quantum dots and that's supposed to be better. From what I read, the X900A had the best LCD picture ever!

So that's something.

I decided to cheap out and bought a kdl55w700b for now. It's good enough without 3d and things seem to be changing rapidly so 3 years from now I can move up to even better tech.

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Great idea. I do the same, albeit with a 1080p PT AE8000U and a 55X900A (although I wish I had the 65" but don't have space beneath my fireplace). Someday, though, I will get a 4k projector to complete my HT forever (or at least for 5 years or until I die, whichever comes first, unfortunately).

That projector looks great -- I want one too now! It apparently is limited to 4:2:0 color sampling (and presumably 8-bit?) like our 900As, although as with our TVs, that may not be a significant issue. What's the MSRP going to be when it launches? I may need to shop my AE8000U to make way for the Sony 4k projector if it's under $5k (seems doubtful).
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With tech/gadgets, you can't always assume that you get more for a higher MSRP. The 900A probably cost more due to it being the 1st gen 4k LCDs for Sony and having the nice, integrated speakers. The X850B looks nice, at least if you're planning to wall mount it (I think the B series stands don't look nice at all).
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Well I found out today that evidently the X900A used quantum dots and that's supposed to be better. From what I read, the X900A had the best LCD picture ever!

So that's something.

I decided to cheap out and bought a kdl55w700b for now. It's good enough without 3d and things seem to be changing rapidly so 3 years from now I can move up to even better tech.

Thanks.

The 900b uses quantom dot not the 900A, I have the 65x900a its say trimulus and some other stuff, nothing about quantom dot
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The 900b uses quantom dot not the 900A, I have the 65x900a its say trimulus and some other stuff, nothing about quantom dot
This statement is incorrect. The 2013 900a series used quantum dot, the 2014 900b series does not.

Three of Sony's 2013 TVs will use quantum dots in their backlighting, in the guise of QD Vision's Color IQ tech (the 65X900, 55X900 , and 55W900). http://www.cnet.com/news/what-are-qu...-your-next-tv/

Sony also touts the Triluminos color on this and its other 4K TVs. Unlike last year's Triluminos Sonys, however, the 2014 version of this feature no longer uses the Quantum Dot technology supplied by QD Vision, Inc. Sony says it now has an in-house version that uses the same branding, but beyond the marketing line of "more colors to produce a more-vibrant picture," Sony wouldn't tell us how the "new" Triluminos technology differs from standard white LED display tech
http://www.cnet.com/products/sony-xbr-55x900b/

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Another 4k step forward

Comcast has released 4K Streaming on Samsung TVs with plans in 2015 for all 4K TVs. Also a mention of Direct TV plans for 2015 too.

http://4k.com/news/comcast-releases-...scribers-4736/

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http://4k.com/news/comcast-releases-...scribers-4736/

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Questions on Wireless phones and 4K players for XBR-65X900A

Has anyone found any current bluetooth headphones that work with XBR-65X900A? NFC or otherwise.
I have used the Sony MDR-HW700 over he last three months. They are wonderful with great 3D effects but require an external box.

Also, anyone know of an alternative to the X10 box for playing 4K video contents on USB or hard drives?

Thanks and happy holidays.
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Has anyone found any current bluetooth headphones that work with XBR-65X900A? NFC or otherwise.
I have used the Sony MDR-HW700 over he last three months. They are wonderful with great 3D effects but require an external box.

Also, anyone know of an alternative to the X10 box for playing 4K video contents on USB or hard drives?

Thanks and happy holidays.
Sadly, the X900A does not support bluetooth headsets. I think it only uses bluetooth for mouses. You'll have to use a bluetooth transmitter (hooked up to the headphone jack on the TV), and ideally with AptX (high quality streaming audio codec) with low latency to prevent any lip sync issues.

I would try this one (I'm planning to get the same):

http://www.amazon.com/Avantree-Wirel...th+transmitter

IIRC, the 900A does not support 4k via USB IIRC, so your best bet is the X10 for Netflix (and Amazon in the future likely) 4k streaming, 4k blu-ray (coming in 2015) or 4k from a computer.

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Thanks! just ordered that device.

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Sadly, the X900A does not support bluetooth headsets. I think it only uses bluetooth for mouses. You'll have to use a bluetooth transmitter (hooked up to the headphone jack on the TV), and ideally with AptX (high quality streaming audio codec) with low latency to prevent any lip sync issues.

I would try this one (I'm planning to get the same):

http://www.amazon.com/Avantree-Wirel...th+transmitter

IIRC, the 900A does not support 4k via USB IIRC, so your best bet is the X10 for Netflix (and Amazon in the future likely) 4k streaming, 4k blu-ray (coming in 2015) or 4k from a computer.
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Has anyone found any current bluetooth headphones that work with XBR-65X900A? NFC or otherwise.
I have used the Sony MDR-HW700 over he last three months. They are wonderful with great 3D effects but require an external box.

Also, anyone know of an alternative to the X10 box for playing 4K video contents on USB or hard drives?

Thanks and happy holidays.
I use these Sennheiser R220 ones ... http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sennheis...&skuId=3793958


About to or already discontinued by manufacturer, so BestBuy actually has a very good deal on them. May be a bit more than what you were looking to spend, but they connect via optical cable (not included in the box) to the back of the t.v. and work great! Sony has very similar ones. Not Bluetooth, so the range is much better, but haven't tried yet to walk down the street with them
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Thanks! just ordered that device.
No prob, let us know how it works! I have a Beats wireless headphone and plan to get the transmitter to use with it. Only problem is that the headphones are not low latency so not sure if it'll have lip sync issues.
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One thing we like about the X900A is its passive 3D. However, the 55' X900A has a different 3D than the 65" X900A, which is really the set you want. By different, the 55" presents two 720P images to each eye, while the 65" presents a full 1080P image to each eye.

However, recall that the B series has the ability to stream 4K from sources like Netflix, while the A series needs an external player (another $700) to stream 4K.
Hello, I am new here and own a 55 X900A and FMP-X5 (and also a AX100 4K cam - and an iMac 5k that plays every other 4K footage my Sony 900A doesn't).

My question relates to the 3d feature of the 55 X900A, I was amazed by the quality and read earlier in this thread that it actually presents two 1080P images to each eye not 720P:

"the X900a will provide a full 1080p image to each eye--that's what makes the passive 3D on this set so good."

Which information is correct? I am confused now, can it be even better on the 65 one? Where is the source info?

Thanks a lot for answering my candid question and pardon me if I jump in here, as I am new to the forum, I did not read every post, it might be answered already.
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Welcome to our forum and Merry Christmas.
As far as I know, your 55X900A is active 3D and 65X900A is passive 3D.

If you like how the 3D looks at 8 feet in your room and it looks comparable to that 5K iMac at 36 inches, then it matters little whether the 55X is 720p 3D and 65X is 1080p 3D.

What bugs me still is no software to play 3D on that gorgeous 5K iMac or any older 27" thunderbolt display.



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Hello, I am new here and own a 55 X900A and FMP-X5 (and also a AX100 4K cam - and an iMac 5k that plays every other 4K footage my Sony 900A doesn't).

My question relates to the 3d feature of the 55 X900A, I was amazed by the quality and read earlier in this thread that it actually presents two 1080P images to each eye not 720P:

"the X900a will provide a full 1080p image to each eye--that's what makes the passive 3D on this set so good."

Which information is correct? I am confused now, can it be even better on the 65 one? Where is the source info?

Thanks a lot for answering my candid question and pardon me if I jump in here, as I am new to the forum, I did not read every post, it might be answered already.
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Welcome to our forum and Merry Christmas.
As far as I know, your 55X900A is active 3D and 65X900A is passive 3D.

If you like how the 3D looks at 8 feet in your room and it looks comparable to that 5K iMac at 36 inches, then it matters little whether the 55X is 720p 3D and 65X is 1080p 3D.

What bugs me still is no software to play 3D on that gorgeous 5K iMac or any older 27" thunderbolt display.
Hi William and Merry Christmas to you too!

Actually the X900A also uses passive 3D (No batteries in the glasses :-) but I am a bit regretting not having gone for the 65 model as I now get the sofa closer and closer to the TV to enjoy 4K content like Marco Polo and 3D content... definitely less than 8 feet, anyone has the answer?

PS: You're right, 3d on a 14 million pixel screen would look really gorgeous.. but that is not what I am using it for... only 4K editing.

Thanks again and have a nice evening!

PS2: Sorry for my bad english
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The smaller (55") 900A presents 720P to each eye, while the 65" 900A presents the full 1080P to each eye. Regardless, it's the passive 3D that makes it look so good, and owners of the 55" set say that the 3D looks spectacular, despite it being only 720P.
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The smaller (55") 900A presents 720P to each eye, while the 65" 900A presents the full 1080P to each eye. Regardless, it's the passive 3D that makes it look so good, and owners of the 55" set say that the 3D looks spectacular, despite it being only 720P.
AJ, if memory serves me, the 55 is 540 per eye. Half the 65x900A. This upset a lot of folks way back in this enormous thread.
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Okay.. sorry about the noise. I found out they have brand new XBR55X900A for $1500 or I can get the XBR55X850B for the same $1500.

I understand the 9xx series is higher than the 8xx so is there a compelling reaosn I should choose the 900A toay?
I have one of each - a 65X900A and a 49X850B.

I'd give the edge to the 55X900A because it has far better contrast and the quantum dot backlight really does produce amazing color, and the edge-local dimming really works on this model. The caveats though on the 900A, is that it doesn't have HEVC codec, thus cannot stream 4k content. The 55X900A has active 3d, which some people don't like vs. passive. While the LCD in this set has high contrast and deeper blacks, it does have less viewing angle the 850B.

Then there's the 900A speakers, love them or hate them.

The 850B has an IPS panel, which limits its contrast and black level capability - but it has improved viewing angles. The 850B series has an improved white LED instead of quantum dot, it is no slouch on the color. The 850b has passive 3d, and it does have the HEVC codec and can stream 4k content.

For the same money, I'd probably go with the 900A, unless passive 3d or 4k streaming built in are high on your list.

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AJ, if memory serves me, the 55 is 540 per eye. Half the 65x900A. This upset a lot of folks way back in this enormous thread.
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Guys, the 55X900A is passive 3D at 540 lines per eye. I've got the AUO spec sheet for the panel, and in 3D the set switches into a one line on/one line off mode, immediately reducing the 2160 vertical resolution to 1080 (creating obvious scan line gaps) which is then divided 540/540 between each eye by the FPR. The trouble with this method is that the 1080 3D content is not filtered down to 540 lines beforehand, which results in very strong aliasing on areas of fine horizontal detail because the extra lines are simply being discarded instead of being scaled down. (Unlike the 540p active 3D on the 55X900B which HAS been filtered correctly.)

It's such a shame about the 3D, it still looked incredible at times because of the very low amounts of crosstalk but the scan line gaps and the aliasing were constant distractions for me. As much as I pretended that the flaws weren't always niggling at me, they were which is why I swapped my A for a B when given the chance.
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This statement is incorrect. The 2013 900a series used quantum dot, the 2014 900b series does not.

Three of Sony's 2013 TVs will use quantum dots in their backlighting, in the guise of QD Vision's Color IQ tech (the 65X900, 55X900 , and 55W900). http://www.cnet.com/news/what-are-qu...-your-next-tv/

Sony also touts the Triluminos color on this and its other 4K TVs. Unlike last year's Triluminos Sonys, however, the 2014 version of this feature no longer uses the Quantum Dot technology supplied by QD Vision, Inc. Sony says it now has an in-house version that uses the same branding, but beyond the marketing line of "more colors to produce a more-vibrant picture," Sony wouldn't tell us how the "new" Triluminos technology differs from standard white LED display tech
http://www.cnet.com/products/sony-xbr-55x900b/

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What's interesting is that LG is adding Quantum Dots to their 2015 LED-LCD sets. Planning ahead for Blu-ray 4K perhaps? Maybe BDA really is serious about having BD4K support Rec.2020 after all. I wonder what Sony and Samsung will do, since LG announced this ahead of time which gives them time to respond if they choose to.
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