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Go to the top of the onscreen menu and choose the item above "Applications" (sorry, I'm not at my TV - I think it's called "Features"?). There are typically four advertisements there. One of them should link to the Netflix, Hulu Plus deals. That'll give you a link to go to from a computer, where you register and then you'll get activation codes via email.

The Netflix code will add one year of service to an existing account.

What blows is that the free year of Hulu Plus is only for NEW subscribers. I just subscribed one month ago, so I can't get the free year. That sucks.

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I googled and found out...Press Pm on remote and go to redeem offer

Hulu doesnt seem to float my boat so far?
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I was hoping on using my $200 card from Sony to help purchase some 4K movies but I cannot get it entered on the Sony site. The card has 16 numbers and the site only accepts 12. Has anyone been able to find a way to utilize them through the movie site?

You need (unfortunately) to go to a Sony Store and buy entertainment network cards (with 12 #'s) using your Sony gift card.

I had $300 worth of gift cards (X1 player install and Sony price "make good") and they handled it.
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Is anyone else running the new FMP-X1 through a 4K receiver? When I run the X1 direct to TV it works fine but when I run it through the new Sony 4K receiver I just bought 4K movies won't display. It's strange, the other 4K videos on the X1 will play but not the movies.E7jva

I think the player has to go to HDMI(4) on the TV exclusively.

You can trunk audio to receiver using 2nd HDMI of player to receiver, and set X1 menu to "audio 2."

It probably plays featurettes because they're not super secured.
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Congrats on the tv! Now when you say out of the box settings look good, do you mean the standard or cinema 1 settings? I can't wait until mine is delivered Monday. Any movies you suggest watching first?

I'm still learning this set. I could not find the cinema selections, but using standard with warm 1 and just a few tweaks produces great results for a starting point.

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That's great! The closest Sony store is 400 miles from me.
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Ok - I've been looking all morning and I can't find this information. Hopefully someone here already has found it and can help. What is the port that I need to use to control this TV via iRule over TCP/IP?

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That's great! The closest Sony store is 400 miles from me.

I'm going to be at the Sony Store today, and I'll ask if there are other options.
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So, these movies aren't being "converted." They're all native, for the most part, or scanned in at 4K. Cameras will improve, of course, as will compression algorithms, but if you're waiting for movies to be shot in native 4K, that boat sailed a long time ago smile.gif
Sold a TV to a movie producer a while, while back, Even movies shot 10-20 years ago where shot in ultra high resolution and that is how they could be remastered in 1080P. As you noted they have been filming in 4K and up for some time now.
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Most movies today are filmed in native 4K, or higher (5K)... The majority of older movies, shot on film, are scanned in at 4K resolution, and some film types are scannable up to 8K. There are very few big budget Hollywood movies that were not shot in native 4K or shot on film that wasn't scannable at high resolution. In fact, the only movie I can think of that was filmed in only 1080p was Star Wars: Phantom Menace, and even then, film was used for the majority of the scenes (still, that's some great foresight Lucas showed there...)

So, these movies aren't being "converted." They're all native, for the most part, or scanned in at 4K. Cameras will improve, of course, as will compression algorithms, but if you're waiting for movies to be shot in native 4K, that boat sailed a long time ago smile.gif

Phantom Menace was shot on 35mm anamorphic. The VFX shots (which constituted 99.999% of the film) were finished at 2K. And considering that studios are still upscaling 2K VFX for their 4K productions (see: After Earth) I don't think that Lucas was particularly shortsighted in this case. The 1080p res (albeit with superior colour compression) used for Clones and Sith is more of a debatable decision, but, even so, without people like Lucas pushing the boundaries of digital capture back then we wouldn't have 4K & 6K cameras now.

And please bear in mind that movies are being shot at 4K/5K, but the final masters are usually delivered at 2K, so the 4K future regarding all these 2K DI's isn't quite as straightforward as it may appear to be.
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I'm still learning this set. I could not find the cinema selections, but using standard with warm 1 and just a few tweaks produces great results for a starting point.

Sweet. Thanks for the reply.
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After u send email about the 200 dollar gift card should u expect a reply email or just the gift card in the mail? Also how long did it take for them to send?
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Congrats on the tv! Now when you say out of the box settings look good, do you mean the standard or cinema 1 settings? I can't wait until mine is delivered Monday. Any movies you suggest watching first?

Mine came with all inputs set to Vivid, which is crazy! It looked horrible. Switching it to Standard made it look great. (I could not find a Cinema mode)
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After u send email do u get a email back about the 200 gift card and how long does it take to get the gift card?
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You need (unfortunately) to go to a Sony Store and buy entertainment network cards (with 12 #'s) using your Sony gift card.

I had $300 worth of gift cards (X1 player install and Sony price "make good") and they handled it.
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And please bear in mind that movies are being shot at 4K/5K, but the final masters are usually delivered at 2K, so the 4K future regarding all these 2K DI's isn't quite as straightforward as it may appear to be.

That hasn't been the case for about 5 years. The vast, vast majority of films are mastered in 4K and downconverted afterwards for Blu-Ray, DVD, and digital. Virtually nothing is mastered in 2K anymore.

Don't forget, 4K isn't a brand new concept. Hollywood has seen 4K coming for quite awhile now, and they didn't want to pay to have everything remastered again. Remastering is a process that costs a hefty sum, and they don't want to have to shell out twice. Some studios even scan film at 8K.

Even older films- Jaws, Ghostbusters, Lawrence of Arabia, Wizard of Oz-- were recently remastered at 4K.
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A member, I can't remember who, posted earlier that movies could be deleted. I for one only hope to keep about 3 or 4 of the movies the server comes with. I'm anxious to hear how the external hard drives work. I'm guessing once you hook one up to the media player, it allows you to choose where the movie can be stored? How big are the movie files anyway? I have a 3 TB western digital I plan on hooking up...

I posted this before, but here are the sizes of various length clips/movies:

A 16 min video is - 4.6gb
A 163 min video is - 56.6gb
A 4 min video is 1.1gb

So for most part, you can say about 45-50gb for the average movie.

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After u send email about the 200 dollar gift card should u expect a reply email or just the gift card in the mail? Also how long did it take for them to send?

It took about two weeks, FedEx delivered an envelope with the make good card in it.

Kbrod1: As for redeeming yours, I would really contact Sony and insist they let you send it in (or do it online, which I do not see anywhere) for SEN card if a store is not nearby.
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I posted this before, but here are the sizes of various length clips/movies:

A 16 min video is - 4.6gb
A 163 min video is - 56.6gb
A 4 min video is 1.1gb

So for most part, you can say about 45-50gb for the average movie.

You're the man! Thanks a lot.
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Purchased 55 inch along with 4K server on 8/28. TV was one of the older units and therefore needed the HDMI4 board upgrade. Scheduled service for 9/3. Spent several hours preparing things (wired Ethernet for both units, TV out from corner, cables unplugged, etc) so guys would have minimal work. Scheduling with Tech services went very smoothly up until point of tech's arrival. First thing out of their mouth's, "Ethernet run is too long." This despite once I asked a few network questions it was obvious they were not network specialists, just guys following a printed out set of directions. While they worked board replacement I replaced 30 ft. Ethernet run with cable provided in FMP-X1 box. Board replacement went in no problem. They then went through steps of programming from service menu. All seemed to be progressing fine until they got towards the end when they seemed to be unable to get TV to turn on/off in requested manner. They seemed to "skip" this step in the end and proceed to power up sequence of server. Same error as before - "Cannot connect to 4K media player" although this time at least we got the power up graphics of 4K logo scanning across the screen for about 30-45 seconds. (I assume this means the HDMI4 board replacement was successful since I was never able to get to that point prior to their arrival) They played around for about 30 minutes switching out HDMI cables, and me switching networking cables of various lengths, and making various other network changes. After about 45 minutes total it was pretty clear they were just going to keep blaming my supposedly "slow" connection as the problem since they had only successfully gotten 3 of 7 installs to work and all had "short" Ethernet runs or powerline adapters. Sensing this was going nowhere I thanked them for their time and said I would take it from there. Long story short, after multiple calls to Sony 4K 800 line, I'm still in the same boat, "Cannot connect to 4K media server" despite fact that I have:
1) Moved original netgear router next to TV/server - no love
2) Moved original Cox Motorola SB6121 cable modem right next to TV/server - no love
3) Bought new netgear router - no love
4) Bought new Cox Motorola6141 cable modem - no love
5) At Sony's recommendation opened service ticket with Cox - they came out and verified signal is almost as high as can go - no love
6) Upgraded my $65/month/25Mbps/5Mbps service to $99/month/50Mbps/10Mbps service just to see - no love
7) Ran more speed tests than Top Gear. Speakeasy, Speedtest.net, etc are almost always around 65/15 though 2wire seems to always run 1/10 what the other guys say, first 3Mbps when I was on the 25 plan and now 6Mbps now that I'm on the 50 plan. Sony told me that I needed to be above 5Mbps (2.5Mbps for each device) Clearly that wasn't the answer. Besides, what does "streaming" speed have to do with getting the boxes to talk/register? Not to mention I've been streaming all kinds of HD sources from various services, in various manners, and to various devices for years now with very few issues...
8) Lastly, moved cable modem right next to TV/server. Direct connected with 3 foot Cat 6 cables only the TV and 4K server taking the router out of the loop and using 4 port gigabit switch. TV and server get IP addresses as verified in TV menu, green light on server. Verified speed was still the same, both through TV browser and separately using laptop - no love
Lastly, if I didn't mention it I can see the IP addresses and the MAC addresses in the router setup page for both TV and server. Green light on server and TV shows IP address in network setup menu...

I find it very hard to believe that this has anything to do with "speed" I now have one of (if not the) fastest internet services offered in Tulsa. Pings are generally around 10ms, and again download speeds in the 60-65Mbs range. Network is all Cat. 5e or Cat 6 patch cables. Network gear is all gigabit. Have moved everything as close to source as possible, and used every possible combination of wireless/wired, cable lengths, etc, etc...not to mention easily 16-20 hours of my time. Though I thoroughly enjoy this type of figuring out cutting edge technology this is no longer fun. And the worst part is dealing with the Sony tech's who talk to me like I can't walk and chew gum at the same time...All the while reading to me from some troubleshooting script that isn't applicable...Really?!? you want me to read all the icons in the Applications section??? How many times do I need to confirm for you there is NOT a 4K application???...Seriously?
I will shut up now since if you can't say anything nice......
My best guess is that the tech's didn't follow/finish/complete the service menu items correctly, and it's as simple as redoing them, but Sony won't give me the instructions. As of now they have "passed this on to engineering" and will get back to me, maybe Tuesday (ha, ha! like you said you would call me back Friday and never did...)...
We'll see, but I'm betting I get a new box shipped to me at some point which will have the same issue because the server is not the issue...sometime in a month or so I'll probably get a visit scheduled from a different set of technicians who will step through the service menu items again and do it correctly and Voila!...Success!...
Yet all this could be avoided if they'd just share the service menu instructions with me and let me run through the process...
Oh the joy...Happy days...
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Purchased 55 inch along with 4K server on 8/28. TV was one of the older units and therefore needed the HDMI4 board upgrade. Scheduled service for 9/3. Spent several hours preparing things (wired Ethernet for both units, TV out from corner, cables unplugged, etc) so guys would have minimal work. Scheduling with Tech services went very smoothly up until point of tech's arrival. First thing out of their mouth's, "Ethernet run is too long." This despite once I asked a few network questions it was obvious they were not network specialists, just guys following a printed out set of directions. While they worked board replacement I replaced 30 ft. Ethernet run with cable provided in FMP-X1 box. Board replacement went in no problem. They then went through steps of programming from service menu. All seemed to be progressing fine until they got towards the end when they seemed to be unable to get TV to turn on/off in requested manner. They seemed to "skip" this step in the end and proceed to power up sequence of server. Same error as before - "Cannot connect to 4K media player" although this time at least we got the power up graphics of 4K logo scanning across the screen for about 30-45 seconds. (I assume this means the HDMI4 board replacement was successful since I was never able to get to that point prior to their arrival) They played around for about 30 minutes switching out HDMI cables, and me switching networking cables of various lengths, and making various other network changes. After about 45 minutes total it was pretty clear they were just going to keep blaming my supposedly "slow" connection as the problem since they had only successfully gotten 3 of 7 installs to work and all had "short" Ethernet runs or powerline adapters. Sensing this was going nowhere I thanked them for their time and said I would take it from there. Long story short, after multiple calls to Sony 4K 800 line, I'm still in the same boat, "Cannot connect to 4K media server" despite fact that I have:
1) Moved original netgear router next to TV/server - no love
2) Moved original Cox Motorola SB6121 cable modem right next to TV/server - no love
3) Bought new netgear router - no love
4) Bought new Cox Motorola6141 cable modem - no love
5) At Sony's recommendation opened service ticket with Cox - they came out and verified signal is almost as high as can go - no love
6) Upgraded my $65/month/25Mbps/5Mbps service to $99/month/50Mbps/10Mbps service just to see - no love
7) Ran more speed tests than Top Gear. Speakeasy, Speedtest.net, etc are almost always around 65/15 though 2wire seems to always run 1/10 what the other guys say, first 3Mbps when I was on the 25 plan and now 6Mbps now that I'm on the 50 plan. Sony told me that I needed to be above 5Mbps (2.5Mbps for each device) Clearly that wasn't the answer. Besides, what does "streaming" speed have to do with getting the boxes to talk/register? Not to mention I've been streaming all kinds of HD sources from various services, in various manners, and to various devices for years now with very few issues...
8) Lastly, moved cable modem right next to TV/server. Direct connected with 3 foot Cat 6 cables only the TV and 4K server taking the router out of the loop and using 4 port gigabit switch. TV and server get IP addresses as verified in TV menu, green light on server. Verified speed was still the same, both through TV browser and separately using laptop - no love
Lastly, if I didn't mention it I can see the IP addresses and the MAC addresses in the router setup page for both TV and server. Green light on server and TV shows IP address in network setup menu...

I find it very hard to believe that this has anything to do with "speed" I now have one of (if not the) fastest internet services offered in Tulsa. Pings are generally around 10ms, and again download speeds in the 60-65Mbs range. Network is all Cat. 5e or Cat 6 patch cables. Network gear is all gigabit. Have moved everything as close to source as possible, and used every possible combination of wireless/wired, cable lengths, etc, etc...not to mention easily 16-20 hours of my time. Though I thoroughly enjoy this type of figuring out cutting edge technology this is no longer fun. And the worst part is dealing with the Sony tech's who talk to me like I can't walk and chew gum at the same time...All the while reading to me from some troubleshooting script that isn't applicable...Really?!? you want me to read all the icons in the Applications section??? How many times do I need to confirm for you there is NOT a 4K application???...Seriously?
I will shut up now since if you can't say anything nice......
My best guess is that the tech's didn't follow/finish/complete the service menu items correctly, and it's as simple as redoing them, but Sony won't give me the instructions. As of now they have "passed this on to engineering" and will get back to me, maybe Tuesday (ha, ha! like you said you would call me back Friday and never did...)...
We'll see, but I'm betting I get a new box shipped to me at some point which will have the same issue because the server is not the issue...sometime in a month or so I'll probably get a visit scheduled from a different set of technicians who will step through the service menu items again and do it correctly and Voila!...Success!...
Yet all this could be avoided if they'd just share the service menu instructions with me and let me run through the process...
Oh the joy...Happy days...

Wow. Sorry to hear of all the trouble you are going through to get your set working with the Media Player. Hope it get's sorted out rather quickly for you.

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Here are the results of using an external Hard Drive with the Media Player....

IT DOES NOT WORK!

That's the results. The external 2tb hdd I have works with my laptop, desktop etc, but with the media player it does not recognize it at all. It as if it does not exist to the media player. It could be that the feature is not implemented in the media players software as of yet, but you would think this would have been done already. So unless I am doing something wrong, it does not work yet. I also tried using both USB ports (front & back) and it made no difference, it just does not see the external hard drive.

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Here are the results of using an external Hard Drive with the Media Player....

IT DOES NOT WORK!

That's the results. The external 2tb hdd I have works with my laptop, desktop etc, but with the media player it does not recognize it at all. It as if it does not exist to the media player. It could be that the feature is not implemented in the media players software as of yet, but you would think this would have been done already. So unless I am doing something wrong, it does not work yet. I also tried using both USB ports (front & back) and it made no difference, it just does not see the external hard drive.

From the manual:

To connect an external hard disk to the player
This function will be available by firmware
upgrade. Please refer to the following website
about the firmware availability.
www.sony.com/4ksupport/
You can move content between an external hard
disk (25 GB - 4 TB, Hi-Speed USB and faster) and
the internal hard disk.
Notes

When you connect an external hard disk to the player for
the first time, the hard disk may be formatted exclusively
for the player and all of the data on the hard disk will be
erased.

Before disconnecting the external hard disk, check that
all of the indicators on the front of the player are off and
wait for about five minutes. Also check that the player is
not accessing to the external hard dis

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I just got my new x900a, but im wondering how to play native 4k without that media player... is it possible?
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Out of no where my 4K media server will not turn on when switching to HDMI4. Is anyone having or had this issue?
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Interesting. I actually had the ZT60 65" version before getting the 65" 900A. I loved the ZT60 and it had a great picture, but my set did suffer from IR issues. I basically had the NFL Network logo IR'd onto my screen for 5 days straight. I just could not deal with having to baby the set and worrying about potential IR issues, so we returned it and got he 900a. All in all, imho it has a better picture simple due to the up scaling of 1080p content. Also for gaming and computer use it has been a lot better because of the scaling as well. I have been extremely happy with this set so far. Still tweaking stuff here and there and enjoying all aspects of the set.

Hawkmoon, Funny finding you here! I just setup my return for my zt60 due to IR. I had this Zt for almost 2weeks and I couldn't resist not watching football today and low and behold TERRIBLE IR after only one game!!! I left it on HBO most of the day to try to get rid of it but no luck.... I'm leaning toward the X9 now, I'm sick of the IR paranoia!! My only concern is being an early 4k adapter... and the upscaling of Directv content as EVERYTHING looked amazing on the ZT (no pixelation, no motion blur, and deep blacks) I'm guessing you're a directv subscriber... how does the X9 upscaling look on it? I'm nervous to go LCD route.

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I seem to enjoy the general setting more then the cinema setting, is this normal? Cinema seems to make the picture more dull...
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Out of no where my 4K media server will not turn on when switching to HDMI4. Is anyone having or had this issue?

IF you JUST got the update that was sent out about two weeks ago, there are two "new" ways to fire up the X1. One is to go to APPS and then 4K and it will automatically switch the TV to HDMI(4) and show the player menu.

The other is to manually use the power button on the player, which will also switch the TV to correct input.

For some reason, Sony has removed the access from both Connected Inputs (4) and the "inputs" button on the remote for getting the player to load.

I recommend you check update software again and report back if these new access routes work for you.
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Purchased 55 inch along with 4K server on 8/28.
3) Bought new netgear router - no love
4) Bought new Cox Motorola6141 cable modem - no love
5) At Sony's recommendation opened service ticket with Cox - they came out and verified signal is almost as high as can go - no love
6) Upgraded my $65/month/25Mbps/5Mbps service to $99/month/50Mbps/10Mbps service just to see - no love
7) Ran more speed tests than Top Gear. Speakeasy, Speedtest.net, etc are almost always around 65/15 though 2wire seems to always run 1/10 what the other guys say, first 3Mbps when I was on the 25 plan and now 6Mbps now that I'm on the 50 plan. Sony told me that I needed to be above 5Mbps (2.5Mbps for each device)

Since your post ended with Voila, I thought it was solved, sorry to hear not.

I have the same modem 6141 (DOCSIS 3.0) and Netgear router, wired within 6' of the TV, Bluray and X1 and it works (I guess as well as it's gonna.)

When I connect a laptop to the fourth port of the router, I am getting 92Mpbs peak, average 75Mpbs wired. Wireless speeds run about 22-25Mpbs.

That 2wire.com reading is a thorn in my side, because Sony keeps insisting that is their bandwidth benchmark. If they say you need speeds of 10Mpbs one more time, I am really going to follow this up as an official complaint. IT IS JUST DOWNRIGHT MISLEADING!

Anything between 2.3 and 3.2 on 2wire.com is just fine for the X1.

PS: another interesting test site that works on the TV browser is "speedof.me" It doesn't require Adobe and it's colorful besides.

edited to add: check out a quick sampling of 2wire users:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r27913273-Scam-2wire-speedtest-is-a-scammer-s-tool-supported-by-bundler
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I know you ended this saga with "voila" so we're happy for you.

I have the same modem 6141 (DOCSIS 3.0) and Netgear router, wired within 6' of the TV, Bluray and X1 and it works (I guess as well as it's gonna.)

When I connect a laptop to the fourth port of the router, I am getting 92Mpbs peak, average 75Mpbs wired. Wireless speeds run about 22-25Mpbs.

That 2wire.com reading is a thorn in my side, because Sony keeps insisting that is their bandwidth benchmark. If they say you need speeds of 10Mpbs one more time, I am really going to follow this up as an official complaint. IT IS JUST DOWNRIGHT MISLEADING!

Anything between 2.3 and 3.2 on 2wire.com is just fine for the X1.

PS: another interesting test site that works on the TV browser is "speedof.me" It doesn't require Adobe and it's colorful besides.

edited to add: check out a quick sampling of 2wire users:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r27913273-Scam-2wire-speedtest-is-a-scammer-s-tool-supported-by-bundler

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Purchased 55 inch along with 4K server on 8/28. 1) Moved original netgear router next to TV/server - no love
2) Moved original Cox Motorola SB6121 cable modem right next to TV/server - no love
3) Bought new netgear router - no love
4) Bought new Cox Motorola6141 cable modem - no love
5) At Sony's recommendation opened service ticket with Cox - they came out and verified signal is almost as high as can go - no love
6) Upgraded my $65/month/25Mbps/5Mbps service to $99/month/50Mbps/10Mbps service just to see - no love
7) Ran more speed tests than Top Gear. Speakeasy, Speedtest.net, etc are almost always around 65/15 though 2wire seems to always run 1/10 what the other guys say, first 3Mbps when I was on the 25 plan and now 6Mbps now that I'm on the 50 plan. Sony told me that I needed to be above 5Mbps (2.5Mbps for each device) Clearly that wasn't the answer. Besides, what does "streaming" speed have to do with getting the boxes to talk/register? Not to mention I've been streaming all kinds of HD sources from various services, in various manners, and to various devices for years now with very few issues...
8) Lastly, moved cable modem right next to TV/server. Direct connected with 3 foot Cat 6 cables only the TV and 4K server taking the router out of the loop and using 4 port gigabit switch. TV and server get IP addresses as verified in TV menu, green light on server. Verified speed was still the same, both through TV browser and separately using laptop - no love
Lastly, if I didn't mention it I can see the IP addresses and the MAC addresses in the router setup page for both TV and server. Green light on server and TV shows IP address in network setup menu...

Distance from the router/length of cable should have absolutely no bearing on speed/connectivity unless you're cable run is longer than ~300 feet. My cable runs from equipment closet to the TV/media player are over 100 feet and I have zero issues and I'm not even using gigabit at the moment. Plus I'm sending the audio back upstairs to my receiver using an HDBaseT extender and it works perfectly. The installers that came by Friday to do my upgrade looked at me a little funny because they are not used to seing it done like that, but they did not try to shoot down my install method because of distance. Everything worked right out of the box and they were there less than an hour. He did mention when we initially accessed the media player that it sometimes will not connect (the TV has a status bar in the upper left, but the 4k logo does not show up) and it is typically because the update did not take or a step was missed, he said nothing of troubleshooting cables in that instance. If the guys that did yours are running less than 50% success rate, then they obviously didn't pay attention in upgrade class or are missing a whole page from their instruction manual and the 3 they did get right were dumb luck. Sorry for your frustration, that has to be disappointing after all the money laid out and the anticipation of getting to use your TV at its full potential. Also, I didn't see them access the interent for anything except to check connectivity to the service, the update was all on a USB drive.
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Anyone watch football with the 65" 4k? Wondering about motion blur... given the low refresh rate..

Thanks..
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Anyone watch football with the 65" 4k? Wondering about motion blur... given the low refresh rate..

Thanks..


Last night's game looked very good, as did the NBC opening night NFL game last night.

CBS's US Open Tennis was picture perfect. There was mid-day sun and broken clouds along with stadium lighting which when combined, often provides an odd mix for picture quality.
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