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post #1 of 10 Old 07-04-2013, 07:32 AM - Thread Starter
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Hello guys!

I have to post here now because me and the wife are in a very tricky situation right now and unfortunately I don't have time on my side.

We are about to buy a TV tomorrow (in the 60-65'' range), a new LED, and we just can't decide between the Samsung F7100 series, the F8000 or the LG 7000 one. If time was on my side I would take the time to read all 3 owners threads above but unfortunately the clock is ticking for us.

We are leaning a bit more on the Samsung and would also like to know if the 7100 is really that much different from the F8000 or it's just wasted extra money? The main use for the TV will be HD gaming at 80%, couple of Blurays here and there. What's most important to us also is a good contrast of colors and a fluid motion without judder, artefacts, trailing and such (or at LEAST as possible). A very responsible TV in a nutshell (no we don't want plasma, tried before, didn't like it).

So what would you guys recommend? Go for the Samsung F7100 and save versus an F8000? Or go for the LG maybe?

Any feedback/opinions will be REALLY appreciated. especially from owners who have first hand experience with any of the above! biggrin.gif
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Urobulus,

I'll be interested in the responses to your post. I am unfamiliar with the LG, and am leaning towards Samsung based on past experience. I have been considering pretty much the same panels, namely the 65" F7100 and F8000. I understand the F8000 is supposed to offer superior dimming technology, but $900 or so is a pretty steep premium to pay. Each set seems to have its devotees.

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According to the cnet review by David Katzmaier the F8000 will likely have a noticeable improvement in PQ over the 7 series. Good luck!

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-un46f8000/4505-6482_7-35643449.html

"are you saying the picture quality will be noticeably less impressive for those models since it doesn't have the ultimate + precision black micro dimming?"

"AFAIK, yes. I haven't reviewed either one of the "7" series yet, but since both lack the highest level of "Micro dimming" (and the only one that actually dims portions of the backlight, as opposed to relying on processing) I would be very surprised if either one was nearly as good as the F8000. That's what I said in the review, and I can't say more w/o reviewing a 7, which I plan to do, but I'm not sure when."

Edit: You may want to consider one of the Vizio M series televisions. I only mention this because it's supposedly very good for gaming. Just note that 65 inch version has a more reflective panel than the other sizes. No, I'm not a Vizio fan boy, just trying to be helpful.

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Thanks, Venus! I had read that review but seem to have been too lazy to read the comments thereto. rolleyes.gif
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When you say Vezio which one exactly would compare to the models above?
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If 80% of your time with the TV is gaming, then the F8000 may be a tough recommendation. Its input lag is not great. Typically you want under 40ms, but the F8000's game mode only lowers it from 100 to 81. Renaming a source to PC lowers it to around 50, but that locks you out of using Smart LED, the setting responsible for keeping blacks deep and consistent. The same trick apparently lowers the F7100's input lag to 40, but I have to imagine it disables similar settings. I'm not sure how well the LG does.

I hate mentioning this so much on the board, because the F8000's design and its picture are gorgeous. 3D is also excellent. If I had to choose one of those three it would be one of the Samsung panels, though. Samsung tends to have better motion performance and uniformity over LG.
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When you say Vezio which one exactly would compare to the models above?

The 65" would be the M651d-A2R.
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When you say Vezio which one exactly would compare to the models above?

M601d-A3R = 60 inches
M651d-A2R = 65 inches (this has the reflective panel)
M701d-A3R = 70 inches

I've personally come to the conclusion that the M series is an almost there but not quite there yet effort. The design is a huge leap forward for Vizio and just looks great IMO.

You'll get some blooming with micro dimming engaged, some light bleeding from its edge-lit design and the apps interface is outdated. The F8000 definitely has superior PQ but I'm not sure how much better the F7100 is than these M series televisions. I'm fairly certain the F7100 has better micro dimming, color saturation and video processing. But I heard these Vizio's are great for gaming and 3D performance.

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I've personally come to the conclusion that the M series is an almost there but not quite there yet effort. The design is a huge leap forward for Vizio and just looks great IMO.

I agree with Venus that the M series is a significantly improved product for Vizio. I would be tempted to grab one if I were in the market for a 40" or 47" set. That being said, I think when you get to panels of 60" or larger the demands on video processing are much greater. The Samsungs look noticeably better to me in the larger screen sizes.
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I just picked up an 60" F7100. While I think the F8000 had great PQ, I could not justify spending another $900 on a TV.
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