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I'm starting my research for an LED TV -- I know I want 80" class or bigger.

Here is my best estimate of the list of available TVs for me to consider with some of the features I want to contrast.

Sharp AQUOS LC-80LE844U (80”)
- Full Array
- Active 3D
- IP Control = yes
- Discontinued
- ~$4,000

Sharp LC-80LE857U (80”)
- Edge Lit
- Active 3D
- IP Control = yes
- ~$6,000

Sharp LC-80LE757U (80”)
- Edge Lit
- Active 3D
- IP Control = yes
- ~$5,000

Vizio M801D-A3 (80”)
- Edge Lit
- Passive 3D
- IP Control = unknown (anyone know?)
- ~$4,000

LG 84LM9600 (84”)
- -4K
- - Edge Lit
- - Passive 3D
- - IP Control = Yes
- ~$15,000

Sony Bravia XBR-84X900 (84”)
- -4K
- - Edge Lit
- - Passive 3D
- - IP Control = Yes
- ~$25,000

Sharp LC-90LE657U (90”)
- Full Array
- Active 3D
- IP Control = yes
- ~$9,000

Sharp LC-90LE745U (90”)
- Discontinued?
- Full Array
- Active 3D
- IP Control = yes
- ~$8,000


Does this list look complete?

Do I have the basic features correct?

Realistically, I doubt I will spend more than $10K, so the 4K sets are likely out.

I started a new thread mainly just to confirm I'm researching the right TVs, but any thoughts on these models would be appreciated also. :-)

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You got the complete list but i would adjust the basic features list with a fact that perhaps you overlooked : the LG 84LM9600 UHDTV is available for considerably less than msrp and i understand that Cleveland Plasma, one of the sponsors at AVS, is (was) selling them recently for as low as $9,500.00 including shipping.
If i had $10K to spend on a flat panel display larger than 80" diagonal currently available for sale i would definitely get the 4K LG model, if anything for future-proofing, with the caveat that it has HDMI 1.4 inputs instead of the upcoming new HDMI 2.0 connectors.
Home Theater Magazine recently tested the Sony 4K UHDTV, which uses the same panel as the LG model, so i imagine that contrast, brightness, colors and sharpness should be about the same for both models, the main difference being between video processing chips.
The test report is available online, the magazine just tested one of the new smaller Sony 4K models and they are now in the process of testing the LG 84LM9600.
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Thanks!

I could tell by posts in the LG thread that the price was being discounted, but I could not find any where that said by how much.

It if really is below $10K, then I need to give it serious consideration.

I have a feeling that I may be off on the street price of most of the models -- all were just my best guess based on what I have read so far.
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I believe some of these Sharp 80" displays can be found online for as little as $3,300.00 and the Vizio about $300 below msrp.
My main concern about these humongous sets is what to do after setting one up at home and realizing that it shows too much edge light bleeding, or banding, or noticeable white/black uniformity, etc, and you must arrange to have it shipped back to retailer - as with any LCD manufacturer problems may happen to the best of them : Samsung,Sony, Sharp, LG, etc. I can just imagine what a nightmare it would be for anyone to box such huge piece of glass safely and what if its replacement proves to be even worse in the eyes of the owner, as i've read reports right here at AVS !
Like you i cannot wait to get my hands on one of those LCD panels 80" or larger but after much consideration i decided it would have to be purchased locally for the above reasons i imagine at the local Best Buy store due to their ubiquity (bargaining UHDTV pricing with Best Buy store manager, anyone ?), however the owner's thread of the LG 84LM9600 is reporting the fact that in case of owners unsatisfied with the performance of their units and upon contacting LG special customer support, the company sends a crew of repairs technicians in a van to the owner's house for assessment, repairs and/or full panel removal and exchange ! I think that is pretty amazing in this day and age, especially considering you are talking about a very delicate piece of 84" UHD glass.
Every time i stop by my local Best Buy i try not to stand in front of their Sharp 80" display too long looking like a fool, completely mesmerized by that huge, beautiful, flat, wall-sized display which can be bought nowadays for what i would certainly call peanuts compared to what you would have to pay just 5 years ago, if they even existed then...
Toshiba ($20,000.00), JVC ($13,500.00), Sony ($25,000.00) and even HiSense from China (not yet available) are using the same 84" UHD LCD panel manufactured by LG.
Or how about something else in your vein of thought that has never been seen here at these AVS shores : the Sharp PN-R903 professional 90" HDTV with full-backlight + local-dimming, that can be rotated between landscape/portrait mode and found online for a mere $17,000.00 ? Hmm...
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The Sharp and Vizio are both on my list. Does anyone have any input as to which is better for a brighter room?
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The Sharp and Vizio are both on my list. Does anyone have any input as to which is better for a brighter room?

Same here. Looking at the sharp 844u or the new Vizo 80". tough

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Last year I was able to get an in depth look at the first 80” television from Sharp, the 80LE632U; and I was pleased to see that, in comparison with the competition, the Sharp was so good it wasn’t even a fair fight. Cleveland Plasma owner Chris Majoros told me he could arrange some evaluation time with Sharp’s newly updated version, the 844U, and I was eager to see what improvements, if any, were brought to an already good display.IKdVSO

The 632U had size, but it lacked many of the features or technology of some of Sharp’s smaller offerings. The 844U addresses that concern, bringing 3D, Quattron technology, and some calibration refinements to the feature list.
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FYI Just saw a the Sharp 80 @ Costco Milford CT. for $2800.00,floor model,floor models just scare me LOL.
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I was at finally able to the this thing in person and got some good pics for you guys, since I still haven't seen any real world photos. Click to see higher res versions:













Now all I have to do is decide is vizio or the sharp 844u smile.gif

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Im gonna have to take a trip to my local Sam's club and see if they have one of these on display. Im yet to see one in person either frown.gif
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FYI Just saw a the Sharp 80 @ Costco Milford CT. for $2800.00,floor model,floor models just scare me LOL.


Don't do that or say that I have two floor models of sharp the 844u and 632u both work perfectly and again you still get 1 year warranty and you can add a additional 3 yrs from sharp so your fully protected what if something goes wrong you say sharp will come out and attempt to fix if they can't guess what you get newest model and they have been known for upgrading basic models to 3d or Quattron models

I don't see how the new vizio is in the running those two sharp models are full array led and don't suffer from edge lit garbage step into the vizio thread if you want to see the issues with that set I do love that its thin and bezel is as well but not enough to drop 3400 on it


Also buying a 4k set now with no content is pointless when they will drop in price dramatically soon YouTube videos and upscaled movies need not apply you will just have a outdated 4k set anyways save your 10k-25k for now and get a sharp 80 or vizio if you dare. Also you can get the sharp 90 (750) for 5900-7000 if you look around easily


The sharp 632u should be on your list and get more love coupled with a daree its amazing along with calibrations now if it must have 3d I get it cool 844u it is smile.gif
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Here is my 844u



My 632u



And I can upload a darbee video on 632u if you want to see how it improve the pic drastically
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I have been checking these out at the stores and have also been impressed with the image on the 75" Samsung. I am also now debating on wanting 3D or not. We have not been watching 3D and have not missed it at all. The difference between passive and active 3D is one thing but does a non-3D TV in this size open up more options worth considering? My understanding was that full array local dimming was best. Edge lit local dimming is better than full array non local dimming. Is that right?
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I have been checking these out at the stores and have also been impressed with the image on the 75" Samsung. I am also now debating on wanting 3D or not. We have not been watching 3D and have not missed it at all. The difference between passive and active 3D is one thing but does a non-3D TV in this size open up more options worth considering? My understanding was that full array local dimming was best. Edge lit local dimming is better than full array non local dimming. Is that right?


Hmm if you could get fully array with local go for it but your gonna pay I mean seriously pay for other full array non local will do much better pic then edge. I'm sorry just to many issues with edge and they're cheaper to produce yea I get a thinner display bit at what cost

Essessive Light bleed I just have to deal with ultimately naaa ill pass as far as 3d argument I have a lg 60 and sharp 844u with 3d ummm is cool to have but last time I watched a 3d movie was back in November of last year but i get all the movies for company. To be honest you should have at least one 3d set but the basic 80 sit stunning once calibrated and darbee added

Here is vizio 80 no input with your local dimming looks terrible

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id ike to see some pics of before / after 844u darby.

Can you do that for us RockmanX??

On a side not, with success on craigslist, I parted with a 73--740 D-L-P, with 4 pair ssg2100 glasses , emitter and logitech remote, for $1050. The new owner loves the setup. and I love that I brought my 844u down to $2300 basically after the move.

I still own one last 73835 diamond DLP, I have sold a total of 3 3D adapters on ebay as well - between 350-400, Sold SSG2200AR (4) pair for $125. I have one 3d adapter and 2 emitters left that i still need to post on ebay.

I decided to part with 3D on the 73835 anyways. It has a great 2D picture for now. Someday I will replace it with LED im sure.

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My 844u is in theater room and has a pioneer elite reciever up scaling the pic on it already the darbee was for the 632u as I want to go a different route just to see I love this puppy here video of it on 632u were I show you the difference in game battlefield 3

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YYqSyL0EZgQ


Ill do a reg tv video
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Alright finally hung my tv and 2.1 system haaaa looks hella better now. I can turn my speakers up and down or sideways as they are now. Just so much cleaner presentation and reciever box under tv wink.gif

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Is that on a tilt mount? And what are those lights are the top?

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Is that on a tilt mount? And what are those lights are the top?

Yup its tilting mount and those are waterproof led 500 color Changing lights behind it
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Hey, RockmanX,


The work you did is very nice. I would only say this.

I'm pretty damn sure you just broke NEC and ran an extension cord through your drywall for the Sharp LED 80" If you were going to do it that way, you should have got one of those kits that piggy backs off another outlet from monoprice.

Reason: In the tragic event of an electrical fire, you just voided your homeowner's / renter's insurance policy, please take note and heed warning.

$50 well spent if you are not hiring an electrician to put a real outlet in.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10425&cs_id=1042513&p_id=4652&seq=1&format=2

This is code compliant because its insulated wire running behind your wall.

Extension cords can arc out, melt, fray etc. causing serious damage and in this case, be an uncovered peril.

Yes, I am licensed in Property and Casualty, No i am not a licensed electrician.

if that is a temp test extension lead , that my apologies, otherwise, its not a good thing at all.
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Hey, RockmanX,


The work you did is very nice. I would only say this.

I'm pretty damn sure you just broke NEC and ran an extension cord through your drywall for the Sharp LED 80" If you were going to do it that way, you should have got one of those kits that piggy backs off another outlet from monoprice.

Reason: In the tragic event of an electrical fire, you just voided your homeowner's / renter's insurance policy, please take note and heed warning.

$50 well spent if you are not hiring an electrician to put a real outlet in.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10425&cs_id=1042513&p_id=4652&seq=1&format=2

This is code compliant because its insulated wire running behind your wall.

Extension cords can arc out, melt, fray etc. causing serious damage and in this case, be an uncovered peril.

Yes, I am licensed in Property and Casualty, No i am not a licensed electrician.

if that is a temp test extension lead , that my apologies, otherwise, its not a good thing at all.

Yes I made a new outlet. Ran that for testing. Feeding cable. I have had several friends run extension cable behind walls and be perfectly fine buuuut yes I understand and I'm with you biggrin.gif
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smart man.

It's never worth saving $100 VS. running a proper outlet.

Everything looks great!!

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Anyone else check out the vizio 80"?

Nice review:

http://pocinc.net/blog/product-reviews/review-vizio-m801d-a3-80-inch-m-series-led-smart-tv

My local Costco just got the vizio in stock and it's right beside the sharp 844u now on the rack! These are the tvs I'm deciding between. I swear the vizio has better side viewing angles than the sharp. I didnt have time to adjust any settings as they were closing but am going back soon.

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Boy you feeding for that vizio lol
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Got the 80" Vizio mounted. This thing looks sweet. Replaced my 60" vizio plasma and I used the same mount I had for the old tv.

http://simplicity.sanus.com/index.php/us/en/products/tilting-mount/SXDP3




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Got the 80" Vizio mounted. This thing looks sweet. Replaced my 60" vizio plasma and I used the same mount I had for the old tv.

http://simplicity.sanus.com/index.php/us/en/products/tilting-mount/SXDP3

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Man that looks awesome! I like the back lighting. How you like it so far? Any issues are complaints?
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Thanks, I love it. It's addicting and keeps getting better the more I watch it. Pacific Rim looks incredible.

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Congrats long as your happy I just can't get with edge lit unless I get a bargin buy
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