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Hi All,

I looked and couldn't find this thread any where, so i'm sorry if this is a repeat.


My KDSR50XBR1 finally went out and I have narrowed it down to Sony XBR65HX950 or the Samsung UN65F8000.

Was wondering from people who compared these side by side which do you prefer and why?


A little background I sit 16ft away and have two sliding doors on the left wall (faces north) that lets decent amount of light in.

please leave price out of the comparison.

Thanks for any help in advance.
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Hi All,

I looked and couldn't find this thread any where, so i'm sorry if this is a repeat.


My KDSR50XBR1 finally went out and I have narrowed it down to Sony XBR65HX950 or the Samsung UN65F8000.

Was wondering from people who compared these side by side which do you prefer and why?


A little background I sit 16ft away and have two sliding doors on the left wall (faces north) that lets decent amount of light in.

please leave price out of the comparison.

Thanks for any help in advance.

http://www.avsforum.com/newsearch?search=+XBR65HX950

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1430346/sony-xbr-hx950-owners-thread-xbr-55hx9-50-and-xbr-65hx95-0

http://www.avsforum.com/newsearch?search=UN65F8000

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1463286/official-samsung-unxxf8000-owners-thread
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Not sure why you think a comparison of these two tv's is the same as the owner threads for each of them or a search result that yields no comparison thread. Maybe it was discussed in the 1000's of posts but doesn't come up in the searches.
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These are two of the best TV's on the market, there has to be some people out there that have reviewed these side by side?
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Just an fyi, CNet gives the W900A slightly better ratings for pq than the F8000, and the 950 does better than the W900. Take that for what it's worth.
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These are two of the best TV's on the market, there has to be some people out there that have reviewed these side by side?

I have had both of these tv's in my house both running the same time, blu-ray movies and Directv.
The Sony has better black for it's full array local dimming. The Samsung is edge lit and as deep and black as it gets, it just can't stay as black in certain scenes as the Sony can.
Color and pop is equal. Contrast is better with the Sony, again, full array local dimming.
Being they are the same size, buy the Sony for the pq. If you want bells and whistles, then go for the Samsung...voice, gesture etc. (Those features still need improving and will tire you eventually)

I also had the Sharp Elite 70" in the house the same time as the sony and samsung. Get the biggest tv you can, as long as the pq is great. I'd pick the Elite 70" over the 65" sony, more immersive. However if choosing between the 65" sony and the 60" Elite, I'd pick the Sony because the sony's color is more accurate. (Elite has issues with pulsing and certain colors like cyan).

Sony has gorilla glass, no bezel and it's a beautiful set when off and on. Most important, it's full array local dimming and edge lit just can't best that.

On a side note, you're 16 feet away. If you can, move closer. I have the Samsung UN75F8000 and I sit 9 feet from it.
The closer you get to the screen, the more immersed you'll be. Always get the largest screen you can afford as long as the pq is good. Don't get the starting line led cheapest big screens, for the pq is not very good at all. Blacks, contrast, flash-lighting, banding, clouding all come into play and you'll find you move a far from the screen as possible to help it look better. The better the pq, the more you can move closer and the more immersed you become, and that's a good thing!

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I have had both of these tv's in my house both running the same time, blu-ray movies and Directv.
The Sony has better black for it's full array local dimming. The Samsung is edge lit and as deep and black as it gets, it just can't stay as black in certain scenes as the Sony can.
Color and pop is equal. Contrast is better with the Sony, again, full array local dimming.
Being they are the same size, buy the Sony for the pq. If you want bells and whistles, then go for the Samsung...voice, gesture etc. (Those features still need improving and will tire you eventually)

I also had the Sharp Elite 70" in the house the same time as the sony and samsung. Get the biggest tv you can, as long as the pq is great. I'd pick the Elite 70" over the 65" sony, more immersive. However if choosing between the 65" sony and the 60" Elite, I'd pick the Sony because the sony's color is more accurate. (Elite has issues with pulsing and certain colors like cyan).

Sony has gorilla glass, no bezel and it's a beautiful set when off and on. Most important, it's full array local dimming and edge lit just can't best that.

On a side note, you're 16 feet away. If you can, move closer. I have the Samsung UN75F8000 and I sit 9 feet from it.
The closer you get to the screen, the more immersed you'll be. Always get the largest screen you can afford as long as the pq is good. Don't get the starting line led cheapest big screens, for the pq is not very good at all. Blacks, contrast, flash-lighting, banding, clouding all come into play and you'll find you move a far from the screen as possible to help it look better. The better the pq, the more you can move closer and the more immersed you become, and that's a good thing!

So the Samsung 75" because of Size you like it or because of the pq compared to everything else out their?
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I have had both of these tv's in my house both running the same time, blu-ray movies and Directv.
The Sony has better black for it's full array local dimming. The Samsung is edge lit and as deep and black as it gets, it just can't stay as black in certain scenes as the Sony can.
Color and pop is equal. Contrast is better with the Sony, again, full array local dimming.
Being they are the same size, buy the Sony for the pq. If you want bells and whistles, then go for the Samsung...voice, gesture etc. (Those features still need improving and will tire you eventually)

I also had the Sharp Elite 70" in the house the same time as the sony and samsung. Get the biggest tv you can, as long as the pq is great. I'd pick the Elite 70" over the 65" sony, more immersive. However if choosing between the 65" sony and the 60" Elite, I'd pick the Sony because the sony's color is more accurate. (Elite has issues with pulsing and certain colors like cyan).

Sony has gorilla glass, no bezel and it's a beautiful set when off and on. Most important, it's full array local dimming and edge lit just can't best that.

On a side note, you're 16 feet away. If you can, move closer. I have the Samsung UN75F8000 and I sit 9 feet from it.
The closer you get to the screen, the more immersed you'll be. Always get the largest screen you can afford as long as the pq is good. Don't get the starting line led cheapest big screens, for the pq is not very good at all. Blacks, contrast, flash-lighting, banding, clouding all come into play and you'll find you move a far from the screen as possible to help it look better. The better the pq, the more you can move closer and the more immersed you become, and that's a good thing!
Thank you guys for the great responses that helped me make my decision. I ended up getting the Sony!!! Picked it up today from my local sony outlet $2999, Installed today and love it!!!!

P.S. new stand is on its way
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So the Samsung 75" because of Size you like it or because of the pq compared to everything else out their?
Allen

FALD aka full array local dimming will provide the best pq in an led.

The Sharp Elite 70" is fald and provides better black on certain scenes, certain scenes, not always. Same is true for contrast.
The Samsung F8000 75" is edge lit, but on certain scenes it matched the Elite toe to toe with black, white and contrast.
The Samsung bettered the Elite in color accuracy and no pulsing issue which the Elite has problems with both of those items.

How big the screen is, immersion, plays a very important part of the tv viewing process, as long as the picture quality is very good.

The Elite's pq is slightly better than the Samsung.
The Samsung's larger size pulls you in the immersion more.
So it ended up being a bit of a wash.

There is that saying get the biggest tv you can, for once you have the tv in your house and love how great the picture is, you start to think, I should have gotten the bigger one!
I spent 14 days directly comparing these two units in real time for my processor has two hdmi outs. Same picture running on both.
Because the Elites pq is so good, I used it's picture to tweak the Samsung. In the end, the two looked so close you'd have a hard time saying which one was better.
It was at that point, the larger tv gets the nod, for immersion is a wonderful thing.

As a side note, I could have bought the store demo Elite for $4500 vs the Samsung for $7000. That's a big difference in price and I questioned if 5" is really worth $2500 and the answer was yes.
I picked the Samsung for the pq and immersion and have no buyers remorse at all, for I put the time in to justify the price difference.

Another way to look at is, what is the biggest tv currently out with the best pq.
The UN75F8000 is so close to the Elite in pq and it's 5" bigger.
Non of the Sharp 70" 80" or the 90" led's come close to the pq of the F8000.
UHD or 4k sets in 65" cost about $8000
UHD or 4k in 84" 85" cost about $12,000 to $40,000

So $7000 for a 75" seems fair, in my eyes compared to what's out now.

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Good choice going for the HX950....congrats and enjoy! smile.gif
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FALD aka full array local dimming will provide the best pq in an led.

The Sharp Elite 70" is fald and provides better black on certain scenes, certain scenes, not always. Same is true for contrast.
The Samsung F8000 75" is edge lit, but on certain scenes it matched the Elite toe to toe with black, white and contrast.
The Samsung bettered the Elite in color accuracy and no pulsing issue which the Elite has problems with both of those items.

How big the screen is, immersion, plays a very important part of the tv viewing process, as long as the picture quality is very good.

The Elite's pq is slightly better than the Samsung.
The Samsung's larger size pulls you in the immersion more.
So it ended up being a bit of a wash.

There is that saying get the biggest tv you can, for once you have the tv in your house and love how great the picture is, you start to think, I should have gotten the bigger one!
I spent 14 days directly comparing these two units in real time for my processor has two hdmi outs. Same picture running on both.
Because the Elites pq is so good, I used it's picture to tweak the Samsung. In the end, the two looked so close you'd have a hard time saying which one was better.
It was at that point, the larger tv gets the nod, for immersion is a wonderful thing.

As a side note, I could have bought the store demo Elite for $4500 vs the Samsung for $7000. That's a big difference in price and I questioned if 5" is really worth $2500 and the answer was yes.
I picked the Samsung for the pq and immersion and have no buyers remorse at all, for I put the time in to justify the price difference.

Another way to look at is, what is the biggest tv currently out with the best pq.
The UN75F8000 is so close to the Elite in pq and it's 5" bigger.
Non of the Sharp 70" 80" or the 90" led's come close to the pq of the F8000.
UHD or 4k sets in 65" cost about $8000
UHD or 4k in 84" 85" cost about $12,000 to $40,000

So $7000 for a 75" seems fair, in my eyes compared to what's out now.

Thanks for the feed back
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