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Can anyone tell me the size of the machine screws for the back of the VESA holes? M4? M5? M6?
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Thanks WhiteSands - I think I've got Motionflow set to 'Standard' now, but I'll double-check when I get home.
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I went with full motion on my mount. The slight additional cost was worth it to me for the flexibility.
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What is this frozen towel treatment?
I googled and all that came up were for XBOX 360.

The frozen cloth treatment was used to clear up the soft dark sides some may have on the sides of TV screen. In photography it's called vignetting and was happening on some of sets that first came out in last october and november. Many chose to use their TV's and the problem cleared up as heat when through the panel over a few months of TV viewing.
The manually done frozen cloth treatments gets rid of about 90% of the vignetting. Then playing the set will clear up the rest. I will post those 4 pictures again here so to see how the vignetting has cleared up on my screen.

click the first picture then the right arrow to see the other three.




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Thanks, WS. Actually, I asked how you performed this frozen towel method to your w850a?

For what I read on the XBOX, you wrap the hardware with the towel and let it heat up for 10-15 minutes. Something to do with reheating the solders and make the connections. The exact procedre involves monitoring some lights on the XBOX. They call this the towel trick, not sure about the word "Frozen".
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Thanks, WS. Actually, I asked how you performed this frozen towel method to your w850a?

For what I read on the XBOX, you wrap the hardware with the towel and let it heat up for 10-15 minutes. Something to do with reheating the solders and make the connections. The exact procedre involves monitoring some lights on the XBOX. They call this the towel trick, not sure about the word "Frozen".

I seem to remember WhiteSands saying something abut putting ice in the towel and working the affected areas. I haven't needed to try it - but I think I remember WhiteSands saying it worked on his. Maybe WhiteSands can explain the procedure again - WhiteSands??? smile.gif
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Also forgot to ask if anyone else can take a picture of this screen on their tv and post it just for comparison. Just want to see if mine is average or worse than normal for the backlight on the edge.


Also here's 2 new pics. The 1st you can't even see the backlight, the 2nd you can see it slightly.


How high do you have the backlight? Mine does the same, but not as bad and I have mine set to 3 since I watch in a dark room
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Here's a shot of mine
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Here's a shot of mine below.

My set looks the same as yours with no-signal applied.

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How high do you have the backlight? Mine does the same, but not as bad and I have mine set to 3 since I watch in a dark room

Although your asking ibanezjp, I have my backlight set to max on the Standard and Custom picture-modes. On Vivid I set the backlight to 7. So far I have never seen any light bleed problems on my set.

I rather test my set using a good HD signal source.

left click the picture for the large view.

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I seem to remember WhiteSands saying something abut putting ice in the towel and working the affected areas. I haven't needed to try it - but I think I remember WhiteSands saying it worked on his. Maybe WhiteSands can explain the procedure again - WhiteSands??? smile.gif

Yes the frozen cloth rubbing on the heated sides of the screen clears the problem up. I sent mis3 the instructions I have.
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Although your asking ibanezjp, I have my backlight set to max on the Standard and Custom picture-modes. On Vivid I set the backlight to 7. So far I have never seen any light bleed problems on my set.

I rather test my set using a good HD signal source.

left click the picture for the large view.


+1 with any normal source playing, I don't have any light bleeding anywhere or even clouding during low lit scenes, even when there is something bright in a dark scene, at least not to the extent of being noticeable.
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+1 with any normal source playing, I don't have any light bleeding anywhere or even clouding during low lit scenes, even when there is something bright in a dark scene, at least not to the extent of being noticeable.

That sound good, you got a good set and adjusted to where it makes a good picture as this set is known for.
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My favorite screen shot for page 100.



Like looking out a window. Beautiful shot WS. biggrin.gif
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Yes the frozen cloth rubbing on the heated sides of the screen clears the problem up. I sent mis3 the instructions I have.

You have really been a big help to a lot of us on here WhiteSands!

Thank you for taking your time to help so many of us - A Big AttaBoy to you WhiteSands! biggrin.gif
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Gee I don''t know, their is just something about this TV with it's great picture and brilliant colors that makes me want to promote it.

Thanks Fairfax-Franko and Steve1971 for enjoying my screen shots and my attention to helping other members with this set. Being retired it keeps me busy and as you know I love new technology and electronics.

Here is another rather nice screen shot from my set.


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Can anyone tell me the size of the machine screws for the back of the VESA holes? M4? M5? M6?

The VESA holes are M6 and use 400mm x 300mm spacing
reference: https://docs.sony.com/release/KDL65W850A_cutsheet.pdf
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Thanks, WS. Actually, I asked how you performed this frozen towel method to your w850a?

For what I read on the XBOX, you wrap the hardware with the towel and let it heat up for 10-15 minutes. Something to do with reheating the solders and make the connections. The exact procedre involves monitoring some lights on the XBOX. They call this the towel trick, not sure about the word "Frozen".

This pretty much covers it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuOzmpUKTEY
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This pretty much covers it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuOzmpUKTEY

Gee I guess I was wrong, it's not the triluminos filters but like he say's a polarized film behind the screen could be causing the vignetting. Next time I will remember to use a frozen slab of bacon to do a better job. This video is slightly different than the one on youtube back in last October telling how to rub the screen the same way.

Thanks for the this video information.
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Looking around in youtube I found this to be interesting about Sony's fast X-Reality Pro processor engine. You add this to a colorful Triluminos picture and you then got one fantastic TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdjGf4UtxCY
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The VESA holes are M6 and use 400mm x 300mm spacing
reference: https://docs.sony.com/release/KDL65W850A_cutsheet.pdf

Thanks. Any idea on how to remove the 2 small legs that connects to the stand?
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Thanks. Any idea on how to remove the 2 small legs that connects to the stand?

Are you referring to the table top stand? There are for screws on the back that hold it into place

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Gee I don''t know, their is just something about this TV with it's great picture and brilliant colors that makes me want to promote it.

Thanks Fairfax-Franko and Steve1971 for enjoying my screen shots and my attention to helping other members with this set. Being retired it keeps me busy and as you know I love new technology and electronics.

Here is another rather nice screen shot from my set.


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No harm in promoting the 850 WS. The tv like the W900 is one of Sony's very best made so you should be proud of it. I know I am damn proud of my W900 and I tell everyone about it and show it off to friends and family whenever I can. So keep it up and keep the great Pic's coming my friend. smile.gif

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Looking around in youtube I found this to be interesting about Sony's fast X-Reality Pro processor engine. You add this to a colorful Triluminos picture and you then got one fantastic TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdjGf4UtxCY


Yep I agree. Triluminous, Quantum Dots and X-Reality Pro make an unbeatable combo. To bad Sony made a dumb ass decision to drop Quantum Dot which is "Color IQ" for their 2014 sets and went with their own ideas. mad.gif
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Are you referring to the table top stand? There are for screws on the back that hold it into place


Not the stand, but the 2 little wedges at the bottom of the TV that holds the stand. I'd like to know how to remove those.
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Do any of you guys with this TV have a uniform screen when solid colors are displayed? Mine is dark around all the edges, and it's apparent when watching all content, but easier to see with a solid colored image. Sony told me I should replace it, but I don't want to waste my time if they will all be like this.
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Do any of you guys with this TV have a uniform screen when solid colors are displayed? Mine is dark around all the edges, and it's apparent when watching all content, but easier to see with a solid colored image. Sony told me I should replace it, but I don't want to waste my time if they will all be like this.

Your full yellow screen shot don't look that bad to me. If you continue to play the set especially using the vivid picture-mode, what your seeing will go way after a few months or would be much improved. After 4 months is should be gone due to the heat in the panel. I recently sent you my frozen cloth treatment. Have you tried it that yet and if so it should has it improved the slight dark sides on your TV screen. I doubt if you swapped the sets if it would look any better with the all yellow screen. Actually it's much easier to fix the present set using the cloth treatment rather then swapping for another set.
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I started with fellow member's (hawkmoon) game settings and tweaked within the xbox one calibration tool
Picture is really really nice in game mode with these settings


Courtesy of hawkmoon...
Here are my settings for gaming:
Picture Mode: Game-Standard
Backlight - 6
Picture - 90
Brightness - 50
Color - 54
Hue - 0
Color Temp - Warm 1
Sharpness - 50
Noise Reduction - Greyed out
MPEG Noise Reduction - Greyed out
Dot Noise Reduction - Greyed Out
Reality Creation - Off (All items under this are greyed out)
Smooth Gradation - Off
Motionflow - Greyed Out
CineMotion - Greyed Out

All Items under Advanced settings are off,

I also have SBM Off and Items under Eco all of except for Auto Shutoff.


My tweaked settings using the Xbox One calibration tool:

Backlight 6
Picture Max
Brightness 58
Color 54
Hue 0
Color Temp Warm 1
Sharpness 80
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hi whitesands would you mind sending me your settings please
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