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post #301 of 4170 Old 11-17-2013, 11:11 AM
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Could really do with some reviews on this TV.

I am seriously considering returning my Sony 55X9005 for this set. It's a little cheaper, bigger screen and the input lag is awesome for my new X1.

I'm just worried that the PQ and viewing angles won't be quite as good as the X9.

The sets should be very similar other than the larger 65" screen on the 65w850a. Both TVs should have the same PQ including side lit LED viewing angles. Both TV's include the Triluminos display other than the 9005 being a 4K set. I understand you can only see the difference between the 4K set vx the 1080 set if your two feet or less away from the viewing screen.

Here are the viewing angles for the 850a US model and the 855a UK model which are the same set. I could not find the viewing angle for your 9005 TV.

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I just got my hands on this set, and I'm now looking for a few recommended picture tweaks. Has anyone posted any calibration numbers for suggested tuning yet? Sounds like not from reading through this thread.. I'm eager to tweak and enjoy. smile.gif
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I just got my hands on this set, and I'm now looking for a few recommended picture tweaks. Has anyone posted any calibration numbers for suggested tuning yet? Sounds like not from reading through this thread.. I'm eager to tweak and enjoy. smile.gif

Many are waiting for cnet to do a full review on this set and hopefully include their calibration settings. They did include them on a similar 55w900a model for this set a while back, but I could not find them.

I will pm you my personal settings from page 6, to get you started.
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It's funny but I thought I was being OCD about the darkened sides and corners. I was going to reorder the set (before I found a close out Elite) and decided to go to BB one last time to look at it. I figured I was being to picky. I brought my girlfriend along and had not mentioned anything to her about darkened sides/corners. I go to look at the tv and she immediately asked why the sides were darker and that she could see it on the white, blue, and green screens very easily with the feed that BB had. We could also pick it out on the football game they were showing. I was shocked honestly because she is not a videophile at all. I will admit none of the samsung or sharp tv's around the W850A had darkened sides at all. I also looked at the W900A and it also had the same issue just not nearly as bad. So it's safe to assume that all the W850a's have this to some degree. Some forum members claim to have W900a's without the darkened sides but I haven't seen one in the wild. It's still a great tv but the darkened sides were distracting to me. Every tv will have issues so if it's something you can live with, it's still highly recommended.
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If the set at BB is that bad you would think they would have it replaced with a new one. You may see some vignetting on the w850a but not that bad. You sure won't see it on the other display sets at BB as they don't have the triluminos display.
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How does this Sony compare with the Samsung UN65F7100? I was considering buying the Sony w900a, but it is too small for the room so I am looking at 65" options. 

 

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How does this Sony compare with the Samsung UN65F7100? I was considering buying the Sony w900a, but it is too small for the room so I am looking at 65" options. 

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I was in the same position - have had both the 7100 and the 850. the 850 is a much better TV, it has its issues but the 7100 has more. PM me I can go into greater detail.

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How does this Sony compare with the Samsung UN65F7100? I was considering buying the Sony w900a, but it is too small for the room so I am looking at 65" options. 

Thanks.

The 65" set is a nice size screen for easy viewing. The difference between the sets would be the Samsung set has been out for six months before this Sony.

Samsung uses a two stage processor in their UN65F7100 set. They did not mention the size of the processor. This sony set uses a 2.2 ghz quad processor. I read when watching 3D movies is where the extra processor would help most.

The samsung's screen refresh rate is 240 hz compared to sony's 120 hz.

You might learn more by reading the overview and specifications on both TV's. Be sure to read the customer reviews for both brands.

I would suggest sites for reviewing like, Crutchfield, ABT, Best Buy and especially Amazon.
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I did the motion flow test again using the new calibration disk. I still find the motion flow set to, Smooth is the answer. It won't help unless you have the Scene Selection set to General. I have no idea why this is.

A test I did, with the motion flow set to Smooth I got motion blur on Scene Select when set to any of these: Auto, Auto (24p_sync), cinema, sports, music, animation, photo, game or graphics. Only the General setting and motion flow to Smooth stopped the motion blur using the blu-ray the test disk.

You will have to set the motion flow on each picture mode: vivid, standard and custom. The Scene Select to General is a set one time deal.

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I saw the Samsung 65F8000 and Sony 65W850A in Best Buy yesterday. I found the blacks little bit better on the Samsung F8000 compared to Sony 65W850A.
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Any idea if this set is going to go on sale for BF or any time soon? I had my eye on the 65" samsung F7100 which is on sale for $2k right now but the Sony looks like the better set!
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Looking for some opinions... I'm trying to decide between the 65W850A and the XBR-65HX950. The 950 has several months of usage while the 850 would be brand new. I can get the 950 cheaper than the 850. Any feedback?

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Looking for some opinions... I'm trying to decide between the 65W850A and the XBR-65HX950. The 950 has several months of usage while the 850 would be brand new. I can get the 950 cheaper than the 850. Any feedback?

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The XBR set sounds nice along with it's price. First the XBR was first release last Sept 2012. The 850a would have the newer technology and lower energy cost. The XBR set uses gorilla glass for the screen front, that many complain about the reflection of any lights in the room. The XBR set does not have the Triluminos display with the extra colors. The XBR set uses the full-array local dimming technology. Most major manufactures are now using the newer Dynamic Edge LED backlight with local dimming due to the deeper blacks which this 850a set has.

With the kdl65w850a set it would be up with the latest technology and including Sony's, Triluminos display. With this set being new you could also get a 5-year extended warranty if you wanted. I would recommend, the square-trade extended warranty and buying it though amazon. You can type, B005STXQWC into amazon's search and by clicking the customer reviews number (xxx) then read a few pages of reviews.
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Hello WhiteSands, and everybody. Practically I have decided to buy this set. I just need one last push, as in Malaga, Spain, unfortunately I could not see it in physical store, only through Internet. My previous TVs have been of this brand, which gives me confidence in the product. WhiteSands, since you have it, do you think it's a good buy? Would it be better set the Samsung F8000? I'm in doubt about theese two sets.

I know I'm going to buy one of these two sets, and I want to do in a week at most, so it would be helpful for me your comment, or the comments of any other forum members.
Thanks and Regards. As always, sorry for my English (Google translator).

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Hello WhiteSands, and everybody. Practically I have decided to buy this set. I just need one last push, as in Malaga, Spain, unfortunately I could not see it in physical store, only through Internet. My previous TVs have been of this brand, which gives me confidence in the product. WhiteSands, since you have it, do you think it's a good buy? Would it be better set the Samsung F8000? I'm in doubt about these two sets.
I know I'm going to buy one of these two sets, and I want to do in a week at most, so it would be helpful for me your comment, or the comments of any other forum members.

Thanks and Regards. As always, sorry for my English (Google translator).

I also buy my TV's the same way as their is no place in our city to see the better sets. I use the amazon web site to read the reviews to compare the TVs. I look at the 2 and 3 star customer reviews and you can usually tell if it's a good TV or not.

These Samsung set you mention looks to be similar, other than the Sony has the Triluminos display to provide more colors. I'm a Sony fan for many years and the Sony brand sets have always provided me with a good picture quality and sound. This kdl-65w850a set has the best picture I have ever seen on a TV so far.
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Whitesands thanks for your answer. Clearly, you're doing very well with this set. I've decided to buy it too, but I have to wait two weeks to receive it.

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I just tried to price match with amazon using eastcoasttvs.com ($2450 on sale right now) with no luck. I suppose I could order from eastcoasttvs but I'm wary about ordering from any place other than amazon. Has anyone purchased from them before? I may just wait until the set goes on sale.
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Thru have a reputation aa a bait and switch company but generally they deliver. You can look up some other members stories on here about them. Not my kind of crew but some swear by them.

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I did some research and you are right, not worth my time... Looks like I'll just wait for a reputable dealer to drop the price.
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Yeahg it appears they try to get 100-200 out of you for shopping or insurance our because its raining on Tuesday lol. But if the price difference was significant enough it might would be worth it

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Last night I spent near two hours looking at the many apps on this new Sony. I thought their was two pages worth. Boy was I ever wrong. Counting 6 apps across the screen and I think 41 rows down, I came up to 246 apps. One was on a row by itself so that makes 247. I will do a recount tonight. I found youtube as my favorite looking up funny skits like on MadTV, "Lorraine buys a bed" (fantastic) and the old Carol Burnett show with "Tim Conway Dentist, the 9 minute version. The longer it plays the funner if gets..To get to the search using the youtube app on the TV. Press the up bar once or twice should open the Search window and key up the text of the show or star you want to see.

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I looked at many of the 3DNet clips which surprised me my wireless internet connection could handle the bandwidth. 3DNet is a good way to demonstrate the 3D capability of this set. I found two other 3D apps but I forget their names. I still like about 30% more to see the rest of the apps.
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I tried to make a new thread in the deal forum, but it didn't post because it had an external link and I'm new.  I Managed to get this TV new and shipped for $2195. Don't know if its an authorized dealer or not, and am unsure how they shipped it.  The cheapest new price listed here, http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-li...eller=&sr=, is $2475 which is the cheapest new price I could find online. Amazon's warehouse deals had it for $2400 a couple of days ago, and with the 6% rewards promotion that brought it to 2244, but it was used.

Anyways, I contacted one of other sellers listed there, Wizard Electroland, got the phone number of their Amazon department, 5163332026, and they were willing to drop the price to $2,195.95 with free shipping. They simply sent me a paypal invoice to my e-mail address. That is a nasty deal, and the best deal out there for this tv. On the phone I heard the guy I was talking to, Robert, say that there were plenty available. If you call them, I think they will probably match the price, but obviously I don't know.

Seems like a reputable company, but I'll let you know if there are any snags.  I wish I could do an in-depth review as well, but I don't know enough about tvs, :).

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I see 14 apps on my KDL-65W850A. Where are you finding 247?

(Wait... now they're there. Haven't counted... but it could easily be 200+. They weren't there only a few minutes ago.)
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I finally pulled the trigger, and this tv will be at my house on Thursday.


Question regarding wall mounts and their comparability, anyone know of a good, very low profile mount that would be compatible with this set? I have never wall mounted a tv before.


Lastly, I tend to be a fan of older audio equipment, but from what I can tell, this set doesn't offer RCA audio outs. My old receiver doesn't have hdmi. Can someone confirm this? And can anyone offer any advice for my situation? Other than a new receiver of course.


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You can get a DAC with Dolby Digital support for $50 or so. Check eBay or Amazon for "Orei DA 34". [Note: I haven't used this product myself.]
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I finally pulled the trigger, and this tv will be at my house on Thursday.

Question regarding wall mounts and their comparability, anyone know of a good, very low profile mount that would be compatible with this set? I have never wall mounted a tv before.

Lastly, I tend to be a fan of older audio equipment, but from what I can tell, this set doesn't offer RCA audio outs. My old receiver doesn't have hdmi. Can someone confirm this? And can anyone offer any advice for my situation? Other than a new receiver of course.

Thank you!

I looked on the back edge of mine and found a single stereo 1/8" headphone jack. I also looked at the jacks behind the set and did find red and white RCA jacks that looks like for Audio Out. Confusing as they are just below a yellow video in jack. They also have a digital audio and fiber optics out included if you want. I have seen some small low priced audio converters listed on the Amazon site.

This TV comes with a online manual to use that makes it easy to figure out the options and jacks do. So far I had a 5 minute or so update from the internet once I connected a 25 foot Cat-5 or 6 cable (walmart) to my router in the computer room. I would have used the TV's WiFi setup but I got my router already loaded with WiFi stuff. I had a second 5-min auto update when I turned the TV on just before Thanksgiving. It don't say what the update is for other than it's updating. Neat, you don't have to do anything and it returns the picture once it's done.

I'm glad to see you bought this TV, i'm sure you will enjoy it.
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That pair of analog audio jacks appears to be an input, for use with the composite video input located immediately above them. The headphone jack could theoretically be used to get an analog audio output, but it'll probably be controlled by the TV's volume controls (which could degrade quality in this use) and the output voltage will likely not be the same as a typical line-level audio output (which could result in overloading the line-level input on the amp, or in degraded audio quality).
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It's nice to see Amazon is lowering the price on this set for the Cyber Monday Deals Week. Looks like they kept their 6% back in rewards which helps another $150. It would be nice if some other web sales had a lower price so as to price match the new set.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=sony%20kdl-65w850a
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It's nice to see Amazon is lowering the price on this set for the Cyber Monday Deals Week. Looks like they kept their 6% back in rewards which helps another $150. It would be nice if some other web sales had a lower price so as to price match the new set.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=sony%20kdl-65w850a

Question: Amazon's site shows 2% back in rewards ($50). Is there something I'm missing?

Thanks.
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I'd never wall mounted prior to getting my 850A a few weeks ago. Of course, the 18 inch deep LCD rear projection I replaced didn't lend itself to a wall mount very easily smile.gif

I went with the Sanus VLF525-B1 and am very happy. While it does maintain a low profile when pushed back against the wall it has an arm that extends out 25 inches which allows me to orient the panel to different sides of the room based on who is watching where. Exactly the flexibility I was after.

I've attached a picture of the back of the panel showing the inputs and outputs. Your only options for audio output are a headphone jack and Digital Optical out.

I'd vote for a new receiver smile.gif The Yamaha RXV871 I've hooked up to it is nice as It will take the audio signal back from the TV on the single HDMI cable so I can get audio when watching Internet content without having to hook up other cables. The TV seems to know the receiver has this capability and doesn't try and engage the TV speakers at all.

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