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Question: Amazon's site shows 2% back in rewards ($50). Is there something I'm missing?

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Right under the price of $2498 it says 2% rewards. If you look a little ways below that it says 6% (triple rewards)....
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Just ordered from Amazon, 2500 is still a lot but maybe they will drop the price again. Now we need someone to post some good settings to start from, whitesands maybe??? This set is going right next to my 60" Samsung D8000 so here's hoping the PQ/lag is better!
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Just ordered from Amazon.com and will mount to a Sanus XF228.

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I'm going to see if best buy will match amazon's price tomorrow. If not I'll just order from Amazon with the Klipsch sb 120 sound base. I think the sony stand is too big to fit on the sb 120 so anyone know of any good tv stands with a shelf that'll accomodate the sb 120?

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Yep need some good settings for this TV. I tried the settings from CNET for the 55W900 but they seem to be oriented for pitch black viewing. Will wait for someone with some more experience to share smile.gif

Great set overall, just feel that the colors get a little too washed out for angled viewing.
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I'm using the following settings on my 65W850A. These are from a quick eyeball review only -- no calibration software or hardware was used. I expect that I'll tweak these over time.

Under Settings > Preferences > Eco:
Light Sensor: On

Scene Select: Auto (24p Sync)

Auto (24p Sync) switches between Standard and Cinema modes depending on content. With my set up I get Cinema mode when watching a Blu-ray movie, and Standard mode for television.

Picture Adjustments:

Picture Mode: Standard
Backlight: 7
Picture: 90
Brightness: 50
Color: 55
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Warm 2
Sharpness: 50
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Dot Noise Reduction: Off
Reality Creation: Manual
Video Area Detection: Auto
Resolution: 10
Noise Filtering: Min
Smooth Gradation: Medium
Motionflow: Clear
CineMotion: Auto
Advanced Settings:
Black Corrector: Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Low
Gamma: 0
LED Dynamic Control: Standard
Auto Light Limiter: Off
Clear White: Low
Live Color: Low
White Balance: All 0s
Detail Enhancer: Off
Edge Enhancer: Off
Skin Naturalizer: Off

Picture Mode: Cinema 1
Backlight: 6
Picture: 90
Brightness: 50
Color: 55
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Warm 2
Sharpness: 50
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Dot Noise Reduction: Off
Reality Creation: Off
Smooth Gradation: Low
Motionflow: True Cinema
CineMotion: Auto
Advanced Settings:
Black Corrector: Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Low
Gamma: -1
LED Dynamic Control: Standard
Auto Light Limiter: Off
Clear White: Low
Live Color: Off
White Balance: All 0s
Detail Enhancer: Off
Edge Enhancer: Off
Skin Naturalizer: Off

If you don't want to use the Light Sensor, then you may need to lower the Backlight by a notch or two.
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That pair of analog audio jacks appears to be an input, for use with the composite video input located immediately above them. The headphone jack could theoretically be used to get an analog audio output, but it'll probably be controlled by the TV's volume controls (which could degrade quality in this use) and the output voltage will likely not be the same as a typical line-level audio output (which could result in overloading the line-level input on the amp, or in degraded audio quality).

Correction: The 65W850a has an option in its Settings menu labeled Headphone/Audio Out. This looks like it can be used to change the headphone out to a standard line-level output. You'll need a 1/8-inch to RCA adapter plug or cable, of course. Those are available for a few dollars at Radio Shack, eBay, and elsewhere.
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There is an electronics retailer here in Canada called NCIX that has been around for about 10 years that has the W850a online for $2,199 CAD, which is roughly $2075 US until Dec. 4. Their website is NCIX.com - though the TV is currently out of stock, they confirmed that more will be available in the next week or so. I'd check what the warranty covers for US residents though, as some electronics I purchase in the U.S. are only covered in the U.S. 

 

They do offer additional insurance/warranty during checkout, but not in the pushy way that some companies do by calling you after the fact (I've bought from them before). I've been staring at the checkout screen for the last 2 days debating whether I should pull the trigger on this TV :|

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Just after opening Options, I have had my most consistent best picture by setting the 'Scene Selection to General'. This setting also helps the motion flow performance.

Set Memory to Common.

I find it's best to complete the Picture Mode - Vivid first, then do the others.

Backlight - Vivid, set to 7 - Standard, max - Custom to 7

Picture - Vivid - Standard - Custom, all set to max

Brightness - Vivid 50 - Standard 48 - Custom 55

Color - Vivid 60 - Standard 65 - Custom 60

Color temp - all set to Cool

Sharpness - all set to 55. Older movies may look better at 50. Many blu-rays using Vivid, try 75 to max.

Reality creation - Important to leave this one on Auto (this may be default)

Smooth gradation - off on all

Motion flow - 'Clear on all' on all. (this could be the XR-480 speed that Sony talks about)

Cine motion - off on all
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Has anyone here gone from the 65hx950 to the 65w850?
I purchased a never opened 65hx950 from a local dealer for a few hundred dollars more than the current 65w850 price. It's being delivered tomorrow, but after reading about the banding issues many 65hx950 owners had, I'm wondering if it's even worth taking delivery, or if I should change my order before it gets loaded on to the delivery truck.

Any input would be appreciated.
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Has anyone here gone from the 65hx950 to the 65w850?
I purchased a never opened 65hx950 from a local dealer for a few hundred dollars more than the current 65w850 price. It's being delivered tomorrow, but after reading about the banding issues many 65hx950 owners had, I'm wondering if it's even worth taking delivery, or if I should change my order before it gets loaded on to the delivery truck.

Any input would be appreciated.

You got a steal of a deal. I tried out a 55hx950 before settling on the w900a. The hx950 is a torch. It has a ton of brightness while maintaining deep black levels. I chose the w900a though because of the input lag (19ms vs 40ms), and the colors were more punchy on the w900a. If the input lag was less on the hx950, I most likely would have kept it though. As far as vertical banding, I am pretty sensitive to it and did not notice it at all on the hx950. In fact, it seemed to be free of DSE too, which the w900a is not free of (w850a also has DSE).
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When does the 2014 line come out? Just curious because the price on the 850A keeps dropping and I'm assuming it's to make room for its replacement.
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When does the 2014 line come out? Just curious because the price on the 850A keeps dropping and I'm assuming it's to make room for its replacement.

I'd expect something to be announced at CES in January.
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The 65W850A was just released a couple months ago. It's unlikely that it would be replaced so quickly.
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Has anyone here gone from the 65hx950 to the 65w850?
I purchased a never opened 65hx950 from a local dealer for a few hundred dollars more than the current 65w850 price. It's being delivered tomorrow, but after reading about the banding issues many 65hx950 owners had, I'm wondering if it's even worth taking delivery, or if I should change my order before it gets loaded on to the delivery truck.

Any input would be appreciated.

I found some specs from Amazon and Crutchfield on the 65hx950 set. This set was first sold in Sept 3, 2012. It uses a thin corning glass over the screen which I read can be very reflective. The set uses what Sony calls, Intelligent Peak LED Backlight with local dimming. I think that method uses LED back panels for illumination. The trend seems to be that most manufactures are going to the Edge Lit LED backlighting with local dimming included in this new w850a set. The 65hx950 don't include the Triluminos display where the w850a has it.
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Thanks,

I'm going to have the hx950 delivered and see if it has any issues I can not live with. I originally went into the store with the intent of purchasing the w850. I was impressed with it and may come back to it if the hx950 doesn't work out.
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The 65W850A was just released a couple months ago. It's unlikely that it would be replaced so quickly.

I wouldn't expect a w850 replacement, but Sony has other TVs in the line up that were announced at CES and I expect their replacements would be announced again at CES.
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You guys in the US are lucky, the 65W850 costs 2075 in the US, whereas the european version (65W855) costs a ridiculously high 4213 dollars in europe (The Netherlands).
It's literately twice as expensive here in the europe. And that 4213 dollars is even the lowest possible price here.

Fortunately it was introduced only a few weeks ago, so there is a good change the price will go down.
I still think it is totally unfair though.
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You guys in the US are lucky, the 65W850 costs 2075 in the US, whereas the european version (65W855) costs a ridiculously high 4213 dollars in europe (The Netherlands).
It's literately twice as expensive here in the europe. And that 4213 dollars is even the lowest possible price here.

Fortunately it was introduced only a few weeks ago, so there is a good change the price will go down.
I still think it is totally unfair though.

Where did you find this for under 2100????????? I checked that ncis store posted above it says 2498 for us.

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Where did you find this for under 2100????????? I checked that ncis store posted above it says 2498 for us.

Oh i didn't know the price for shipment to the US was different in the ncis store.
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Yeah i went there and when i clicked the us flag it changed the price. Believe me i jumped when i read that earlier post lol.

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Amazon offers a 14-day price match starting when the set is first shipped from their warehouse. If you can find a lower price Amazon will match it if it's on the url list I provided below.

Amazon's price match number is, 866 423-5353 Anyone finding a better deal and getting a price match, please let us know.

Here below is a long list of dealers that Amazon will price match with.

For more details click Help at the top of the Amazon page where the KDL-65W850A set is shown. Type into the center window, RETAILERS ELIGIBLE FOR THE TV LOW PRICE GUARANTEE. This will open a page listing information about their price matching rules.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=help_search_1-2?ie= UTF8&nodeId=201133230&qid=1386113762&sr=1-2
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How does this set handle motion?? I'm still debating on if I should go LCD or Plasma....

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I made my way down to best buy tonight to see the w850 in action. They had it hanging amongst the heavy hitters. The xbr, f8500, and the zt. They were all playing the same transformers movie. You know which set looked the best!!? The Sony w850a!!! It had been calibrated according to the magnolia rep and it actually looked better than the xbr 4k! The xbr was playing 1080p content so that may be why.

I was able to view some directv content and some sports. Everything looked great!! I didn't notice any motion blur and that's really what I was worried about. I bought it and it should be here next Tuesday! Can't wait!!!!

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I don't know if I'm wording this right, but does the w850 support Dolby pass through with HDMI? I want to hook up a powered soundbar (either a Klipsch SB 120 or Sonos Playbar) with an optical cable between the soundbar and tv. I'll plug my other devices into the TV via HDMI. (playstation, cable box, computer) I heard that a lot of TV's do not support dolby this way but that most Sony's do. Does this include the W850A?
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Newbie to this site. Just took delivery of my new Kdl65w850a this evening. Haven't got to turn it on as I am waiting for it to get to room temperature. Can't wait to turn the thing on. I am going from a KDF-E462000 projection screen TV to this pure awesomeness! Got a smokin deal on it as well $2,000 CAD... Seemed really weird to see pricing up here in Canada much cheaper then the US...It was a nice change. Lol

Hope to see a full colour calibration review setup soon from the pros on here.

Other tv set I have is a Samsung 50"es6820 that is not my primary viewing tv. The old KDF-E462000 was my primary tv till today.

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Newbie to this site. Just took delivery of my new Kdl65w850a this evening. Haven't got to turn it on as I am waiting for it to get to room temperature. Can't wait to turn the thing on. I am going from a KDF-E462000 projection screen TV to this pure awesomeness! Got a smokin deal on it as well $2,000 CAD... Seemed really weird to see pricing up here in Canada much cheaper then the US...It was a nice change. Lol

Hope to see a full colour calibration review setup soon from the pros on here.

Other tv set I have is a Samsung 50"es6820 that is not my primary viewing tv. The old KDF-E462000 was my primary tv till today.

May I ask, where you got this set for $2K in Canada.
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There was a 1 day sale at future shop. Not many were available and not all future shops were willing to sell at that price. It was a "VIP" sale.
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May I ask, where you got this set for $2K in Canada.

It was at a Future Shop store.

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You can open this site and click on Product Description. It's the most detailed list I have seen for this TV.

http://www.conns.com/sony-65-led-hdtv-kdl65w850a.html
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