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Old 07-29-2014, 03:36 AM
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Refurbished sony 65 inch 3D TV - 65W850a for only $1169.99 with my EPP it is $1,116.17

http://store.sony.com/refurbished-65...ecently_viewed

POOP -I just purchased a new one from frys for $1599. Was $1710.93 after taxes. Wonder if I should return this and re buy it here? What's the deal with refurbished TVs? Wonder if frys would price match it? Thats almost a $600 savings... but im really happy with my TV and would hate to get a crappier screen as mine seems great. Guess i should go to frys and see if they can do anything for me? But i have a feeling that they will not since this one is a refurbished vs a new tv which i got from frys...
How come I don't see the tv anywhere on that page
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Just wanted to say thanks WS for the settings.
The TV looks fab
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Looks like the deal is dead.
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A BIG thanks to Whitesands for his settings and screenshots.
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Refurbished sony 65 inch 3D TV - 65W850a for only $1169.99 with my EPP it is $1,116.17

http://store.sony.com/refurbished-65...ecently_viewed

POOP -I just purchased a new one from frys for $1599. Was $1710.93 after taxes. Wonder if I should return this and re buy it here? What's the deal with refurbished TVs? Wonder if frys would price match it? Thats almost a $600 savings... but im really happy with my TV and would hate to get a crappier screen as mine seems great. Guess i should go to frys and see if they can do anything for me? But i have a feeling that they will not since this one is a refurbished vs a new tv which i got from frys...


Besides, a brand new one for a couple hundred bucks more is def better
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Refurbished sony 65 inch 3D TV - 65W850a for only $1169.99 with my EPP it is $1,116.17

http://store.sony.com/refurbished-65...ecently_viewed

POOP -I just purchased a new one from frys for $1599. Was $1710.93 after taxes. Wonder if I should return this and re buy it here? What's the deal with refurbished TVs? Wonder if frys would price match it? Thats almost a $600 savings... but im really happy with my TV and would hate to get a crappier screen as mine seems great. Guess i should go to frys and see if they can do anything for me? But i have a feeling that they will not since this one is a refurbished vs a new tv which i got from frys...
You could always ask Fry's for the pricematch, but they may say this is refurbished which is clearly not the same as new! Also, the deal is gone now, so the point is moot. Maybe that's a good thing!

If you really like the one you have, don't putz with it! You'll start the endless cycle of comparing and regret
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8 months after

My Sony 65w850a started giving problems after owning it for 8 months earlier this week. The left part of the screen from the middle to the edge is discolored or darkened. Sony will replace it with a refurb replacement. I don't consider this to be a minor problem and I find it random to start having problems after afew months. If you haven't, get an extended warranty.
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It looks like Amazon is offering 11 new W850a sets for $1898 with free shipping and no tax. These are sold though ABT Electronics. That's $800 less than I paid for my set 9 months ago.
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Just bought a PS4. "The last of us remastered" looks freaking sweet on this TV ! PS4 is bit loud though when gaming so I am moving it to other room and buying 10m active(amplified) HDMI cable to transmit the signal to TV. PS4 controller seems to have good range to do this.

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I should get mine today or tomorrow. Abt was easy to deal with. I didnt have to pay tax or shipping and if i get it today it only took 5 business days
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Lately I've noticed that dynamic dimming and definitely black levels are channel dependant on Dish. I've watched movies on EPIX and HBO and had different experiences. Luckily I still have my Samsung which is Full Array (which I have determined I will never get rid of) and confirmed the same black level performance. I leave dynamic LED off of that one though. For a dynamic led example, at the end of the Hunger Games, if dynamic LED control is on, at the very end before the first credit, the screen will shut off. This is on EPIX channel. But watching Now You See Me on HBO, at the credits, the screen never shuts off. It just gives a nice deep black, even with the dynamic control on.

The other thing I've noticed that those black levels on the channels affect is bleed along the sides, since the blacks aren't always deep black, but very dark gray. I suspect it has to do with the compression that they're using. I know it isn't actual light bleed since the letterbox bars at the top and bottom are true black.

Anyone else notice this too? I need to get more Blu-ray discs in my collection. Upconverted DVDs don't cut it anymore and the Sony shows the flaws in the channels too easily. Guess I'm getting spoiled with a nice picture. This isn't a complaint about the TV, but more of an observation of the variations in picture from HD channels on Dish.
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Lately I've noticed that dynamic dimming and definitely black levels are channel dependant on Dish. I've watched movies on EPIX and HBO and had different experiences. Luckily I still have my Samsung which is Full Array (which I have determined I will never get rid of) and confirmed the same black level performance. I leave dynamic LED off of that one though. For a dynamic led example, at the end of the Hunger Games, if dynamic LED control is on, at the very end before the first credit, the screen will shut off. This is on EPIX channel. But watching Now You See Me on HBO, at the credits, the screen never shuts off. It just gives a nice deep black, even with the dynamic control on.

The other thing I've noticed that those black levels on the channels affect is bleed along the sides, since the blacks aren't always deep black, but very dark gray. I suspect it has to do with the compression that they're using. I know it isn't actual light bleed since the letterbox bars at the top and bottom are true black.

Anyone else notice this too? I need to get more Blu-ray discs in my collection. Upconverted DVDs don't cut it anymore and the Sony shows the flaws in the channels too easily. Guess I'm getting spoiled with a nice picture. This isn't a complaint about the TV, but more of an observation of the variations in picture from HD channels on Dish.

I notice a lot of this while watching HD on Comcast! some channels look great and others look like compressed crap. And Dish, Directv and Comcast are rumored to be bringing in some 4K channels? Give me a break. My W9 shows a lot of the flaws on HD channels from Comcast.
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I notice a lot of this while watching HD on Comcast! some channels look great and others look like compressed crap. And Dish, Directv and Comcast are rumored to be bringing in some 4K channels? Give me a break. My W9 shows a lot of the flaws on HD channels from Comcast.
Oh I don't doubt that they're bringing 4k channels, just that they won't be 4k quality when they are done compressing them to send out over current tech. Maybe it will down-rez on our TVs to actually look like 1080 was always supposed to look, but never quite did over a broadcast channel? Should be interesting.
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Local channels with OTA give a can give a better picture than a compressed feed from Dish. I use it whenever possible especially when raining or snowing when the Dish goes out.
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I just got this tv yesterday, i noticed every channel is different so it cant be the tv. I was watched nbc news in vivd hd and was amazed, then another channer was garbage
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About watching any live pro football games on your set. Last year I thought I was getting a little better picture on my W850a set by using my outdoor TV antenna to get the pro games from El Paso which is 80 miles away. Their towers are up on a mountain which I can see the mountain while standing in my driveway using binoculars. I use a high gain Winegard 8800 UHF only antenna up on a 30 foot mast using a 25 db preamp mounted just behind the antenna. I get a 88% to 100% signal strength on the Paso network stations.

So for a month I watched live pro games with pixelation and motion blur on any fast motion football plays. I also had similar problems on ABC and NBC games from El Paso. This drove me nuts, so during the 1st quarter of one game I switched to the Dish network receiver on their Fox Network feed. Like wow, all those problems I was having where now gone.

Now that I think of it the problem could be due to a row of small mountains half way between where I live and where the El Paso towers are. Even though I can see the towers from the ground don't mean that their could be some signal deflection off those mountains and could be what was causing the pixelation and motion blur.

Well I'm all set for another fun year of watching pro football on the big screen set.

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I want to try WS's settings, but what is the source ? I have 1: HD/Cable, 2: Blu Ray player, and 3, PS4...... all HDMI of course ! Many thanks.
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Anyone with any 3d settings they like to share?
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I used whitesands settings for the tv and they are all great. He even got got my sound pumping out great. Thx again whitesands
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Like most of us on this forum we're looking for the best picture.

I reset my Vivid mode and tweaked the settings, In my opinion my picture looks AWESOME!

Here you go:
Picture mode: Vivid
Backlight MAX
Picture 95
Brightness 50
color 57
sharpness 60

everything else is stock vivid mode.

Enjoy.

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I include with all my settings I send out. These include a single 3D setting that brightens the picture somewhat to help compensate for the 3D glasses.
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This is another screen shot from my W850a set. I zoomed in some as this was another of those 1700 x 1275 size scenic pictures.

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Like most of us on this forum we're looking for the best picture.

I reset my Vivid mode and tweaked the settings, In my opinion my picture looks AWESOME!

Here you go:
Picture mode: Vivid
Backlight MAX
Picture 95
Brightness 50
color 57
sharpness 60

everything else is stock vivid mode.

Enjoy.
If you want the best picture, have you tried using Cinema for picture mode.........

Whitesands, is there a reason you don't use/prefer cinema settings on this tv? I see you prefer vivid.

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If you want the best picture, try using Cinema for picture mode.........

Whitesands, is there a reason you don't use/prefer cinema settings on this tv?

"Best" is a personal choice doesn't always mean it will be the most accurate. Some people like the boosted colors of vivid mode.
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"Best" is a personal choice doesn't always mean it will be the most accurate. Some people like the boosted colors of vivid mode.


This is why TV manufacture provide picture setting controls so the owner can adjust the picture they way they like it.
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If you want the best picture, have you tried using Cinema for picture mode.........

Whitesands, is there a reason you don't use/prefer cinema settings on this tv? I see you prefer vivid.
I don't remember if I ever tried the Cinema mode other than 10 months ago when the set was new.

I use Vivid a lot for the live pro football games and watch near all the blu ray movies using Vivid. I use picture-mode, Standard a lot for my regular TV viewing. I have seen some older movies on regular TV that look a little drab so I use Vivid which enhances the colors and the deep blacks which improve the picture.

You may notice that my many screen shots look like they were taken using vivid. No, the picture-mode on this set uses a different group of settings like, picture-vivid, picture-standard picture-natural and one other I can't recall. I usually use picture-standard at default to get my screen shots. These original pictures have boosted color as the original picture was found that way.

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Here are 2 more screen shots from my TV and may be repeats. These look to be more of Canada's beauty.


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About watching any live pro football games on your set. Last year I thought I was getting a little better picture on my W850a set by using my outdoor TV antenna to get the pro games from El Paso which is 80 miles away. Their towers are up on a mountain which I can see the mountain while standing in my driveway using binoculars. I use a high gain Winegard 8800 UHF only antenna up on a 30 foot mast using a 25 db preamp mounted just behind the antenna. I get a 88% to 100% signal strength on the Paso network stations.

So for a month I watched live pro games with pixelation and motion blur on any fast motion football plays. I also had similar problems on ABC and NBC games from El Paso. This drove me nuts, so during the 1st quarter of one game I switched to the Dish network receiver on their Fox Network feed. Like wow, all those problems I was having where now gone.

Now that I think of it the problem could be due to a row of small mountains half way between where I live and where the El Paso towers are. Even though I can see the towers from the ground don't mean that their could be some signal deflection off those mountains and could be what was causing the pixelation and motion blur.

Well I'm all set for another fun year of watching pro football on the big screen set.

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mine looks awful because Verizon fios blows. I'm getting the same thing white sands. I'm just starting to think this tv can't handle fast movement.

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mine looks awful because Verizon fios blows. I'm getting the same thing white sands. I'm just starting to think this tv can't handle fast movement.
I have Comcast high speed cable and I watched the 49er - Ravens game and noticed nothing out of the ordinary - the game looked great. I'm using WhiteSands settings and I have it on Standard.
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