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post #4651 of 4662 Old 04-25-2015, 12:06 AM
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It may be a good thing you passed up any plasma set. I lost a two year old panasonic VT-30 a 55" plasma that originally cost me $2800. Pana refused to fix it a year past warranty as many others were having this same exact failure. It was caused by one or two of the 8 or so screws holding the SC board to ground being slightly loose due to the heating and cooling off of the set. This caused a slight spark knocking out some components. Plasma's do run on the hot side and they use twice the power of a LED set of the same year set. I parked it even though I could get a replacement SC board including new improved screws for about $240. I worried all the time I used it, worrying about screen burn in and when running it in the vivid mode when watching a blu ray movie or pro football game.

I bought this 65" Sony set as months earlier the tech sites were excited to see Sony coming out with a 65" set with a killer picture. Bright vivid colors due to the triluminos filters which gives this set numerous colors over the standard 3 color red, green and blue method. This W850a set uses a special panel made by Samsung that produces the deepest blacks I have ever seen.
To me they look just as black as the plasma set I had. You may have read earlier where I mentioned this set was designed from the X850a Sony set which is a 4K set. This is how this set ended up with a 2.2ghz quad processor, first ever in a 1080p set in 2013.

Sony blew away the competition back in the CRT days when they came out with their single gun CRT. The Sony picture was not only brighter with added contrast, they also had improved the colors and contrast over all the tri-gun color sets of that same era.

Yes it would have been nice to receive some commission on helping them sell many of these sets. I did alright with Sony in the old days. I will include that info when I send you my settings.

The perfect picture of the OLED sets may stay high priced for a good while in the 65 inch or larger screen sizes. The 4K set in the larger screen sizes should be more affordable in the next few years as 4K content should become more available. I don't know how long or what it would cost for the networks to convert to 4K transmission. Can you imagine watching pro football games with a 4K network feed from directly from the stadium.

This is some of whats new with Sony..

http://www.techspot.com/news/60410-s...an-iphone.html

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Thanks a bunch WhiteSands for the settings. I have an older 50" Panny and a few year old 42" LG (not sure why I bought it... lol). So far so good with the two of them, fingers crossed. Too bad to hear about the VT, I have read a lot of good things with the latter Panny releases. Just apparently not their reliability, I thought Panny was a good company with Plasmas... Who thunk?

I look forward to messing with the monster Sony... Biggest TV so far I have owned. The picture is amazing on this thing. I look forward as well to what these companies will bring out. It's nice to see so much competition in this area. Keeps the innovation moving forward at a fast past, great for us consumers...

I appreciate the time you have put into tweaking the settings and letting us enjoy them as well. Keep up the good work.
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It may be a good thing you passed up any plasma set. I lost a two year old panasonic VT-30 a 55" plasma that originally cost me $2800. Pana refused to fix it a year past warranty as many others were having this same exact failure. It was caused by one or two of the 8 or so screws holding the SC board to ground being slightly loose due to the heating and cooling off of the set. This caused a slight spark knocking out some components. Plasma's do run on the hot side and they use twice the power of a LED set of the same year set. I parked it even though I could get a replacement SC board including new improved screws for about $240. I worried all the time I used it, worrying about screen burn in and when running it in the vivid mode when watching a blu ray movie or pro football game.

I bought this 65" Sony set as months earlier the tech sites were excited to see Sony coming out with a 65" set with a killer picture. Bright vivid colors due to the triluminos filters which gives this set numerous colors over the standard 3 color red, green and blue method. This W850a set uses a special panel made by Samsung that produces the deepest blacks I have ever seen.
To me they look just as black as the plasma set I had. You may have read earlier where I mentioned this set was designed from the X850a Sony set which is a 4K set. This is how this set ended up with a 2.2ghz quad processor, first ever in a 1080p set in 2013.

Sony blew away the competition back in the CRT days when they came out with their single gun CRT. The Sony picture was not only brighter with added contrast, they also had improved the colors and contrast over all the tri-gun color sets of that same era.

Yes it would have been nice to receive some commission on helping them sell many of these sets. I did alright with Sony in the old days. I will include that info when I send you my settings.

The perfect picture of the OLED sets may stay high priced for a good while in the 65 inch or larger screen sizes. The 4K set in the larger screen sizes should be more affordable in the next few years as 4K content should become more available. I don't know how long or what it would cost for the networks to convert to 4K transmission. Can you imagine watching pro football games with a 4K network feed from directly from the stadium.

This is some of whats new with Sony..

http://www.techspot.com/news/60410-s...an-iphone.html

WS

WS 4K is not all whats its cracked up to be my friend. I find it over blown and I will take my W900A over any current 4K tv anyday. Now if your talkin OLED then thats a whole other subject.
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WS 4K is not all whats its cracked up to be my friend. I find it over blown and I will take my W900A over any current 4K tv anyday. Now if your talkin OLED then thats a whole other subject.
My theory on 4K is to help make a great picture on a large 75" to 110" TV screen. I can see your 55" fantastic W900A TV picture quality compared to the larger 65" W850A picture.
A 4K set at 55" would look about the same as what you already have.

I remember reading a few years ago where they, maybe Cnet were saying that 4K for the theaters would completely blow away any 3D movies, it really looked that good. It's like doubling the pixels at the theater. So naturally this is where 4K excels.

I have not seen any OLED sets, but I can imagine OLED is the ultimate picture so far. OLED must be selling as the 55" prices are slowly going down.
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Looking to the future of TV's. It would be cool when the screens get much larger 85" to 110 " and also thinner to fit flatter on the wall. Why not have a separate box with TV power supply and the works inside to sit almost hidden from view near where the cable or satellite receiver sits. The TV box would then connect the ultra high def picture screen and sound system by using a wireless method.

I'm sure it could be done in the near future. The satellite companies already offer a HD 1080p wireless receiver setup for other the TV's in the house. They use a tiny wireless receiver behind each set to accomplish this.

I have seen some attempts at doing this separate TV box to the screen. Then the ugly cable hanging down from the screen to the main TV box sitting on the floor or table below. That don't look very good. Using a special wireless signal to separate the 4k screen from the TV you could place the TV box anywhere in the living room. To me, just seeing a large super thin screen on the living room wall would look really nice, similar to a projection screen.

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I have a Sony 65W850 and want to connect two headphones to it (preferably Bluetooth) would this be possible using a bluetooth usb adapter? or any other way?
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I have a Sony 65W850 and want to connect two headphones to it (preferably Bluetooth) would this be possible using a bluetooth usb adapter? or any other way?
The set has a earphone jack on the left end of the TV. Just guessing, you may have to activate the jack in the home, sound menu. I'm not familiar with the bluetooth usb adapter, but it should work. It simply transmits a low level RF or more likely a infrared signal that can be picked up by one or more headsets. If you contact the manufacture on the adapter and the brand of the bluetooth headphones you would then know for sure.
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Ok I tried AustinJerry's settings on my W900A and honestly they werent that different from Tom Norton's settings over at Sound And Vision. The only question I have about AustinJerry's settings are his choice of the use of Cinema 2. Every online calibration site I have looked at uses the Cinema 1 mode and not Cinema 2 so I would like to know why he selected Cinema 2. I may have to ask him.
That is a good question. I thought it was just an EXTRA cinema setting you could use. Not sure if there is a difference between cinema 1 and cinema 2.

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Thank you from KDL-65W950B owner

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Thank you so much for your settings. My TV looks better each day. Close to shocking difference in picture quality. I really appreciate all you do. Sports programming on FOX, CBS, NBC and HBO are stunning.

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Is there a setting that will put the EI in the top left corner and not so close to the middle of the screen? Notice this on a lot of HD programs


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My wife and I watched the Hobbit for the very first time last night on our W9 WS and thank god no Blue Bleed as I call it! When people experience that issue it has to be because of what their settings are set at. Your adjustments if followed should fix it if other owners are experiencing it. That being said the Hobbit is a beautifully filmed movie.
Just wanted to chime back in here, as I was the one having the issue with the blue clouds during very dark scenes. First, please note that I am calibrating the screen using a Rec. 709 calibration standard. Whitesands (who is an extremely helpful and active member of the community, and has offered a ton of assistance here, which is not to be discounted by my own opinion) graciously sent me his settings and attempted to assist me in clearing up my issues. Unfortunately, his settings aren't going to work for me as they use a lot of the TV's more unnatural processing features and therefore "color" the image to a degree with which I'm not comfortable. Can you achieve the dark, inky blacks as seen in his photos? Absolutely, but it will be at the loss of shadow detail, natural color performance, contrast, etc. For some folks, that's fine; there's absolutely nothing wrong with liking what you like.

To clarify further, I want to achieve the most realistic picture possible, and achieving that on this particular display also means dealing with a few of the display's shortcomings; the blue clouding you've seen (or as someone more aptly named it, blue-bleed), and vertical banding -- which is more severe in scenes with fast moving images, white backgrounds, etc. I've posted my settings early on in the thread using Rec 709 calibration software, and went back shortly thereafter achieving a more subjective calibration using the Disney WOW Blu-ray. Both resulted in great, but far less than perfect PQ.

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WhiteSands, do you mind sending me your famous settings for my 65W850a ? If you can would be greatly apprecited , thanks!
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