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....and don't forget about the Samsung UN60F8000 60-Inch 1080p 240Hz 3D Ultra Slim Smart LED HDTV. It's just below the W900A in my opinion but ahead of the W850A because of the 240hz refresh rate. Also, the W850A doesn't have the Deep Black panel that the w900A has.

Why would you spend an extra $1100 just to get 240hz...a difference you will never notice! Or spend an extra $300 and go down from 65" to 60", once again, to get the 240hz!

The w900a with the deep black panel on the other hand is definitely something to look at. This deep black panel will make the TV look good in bright, sun drenched rooms. Outside of that, it will look the same as the w850a. Throw in an extra 10 inches of screen size and I think the w850a makes for a much more compelling package!
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Why would you spend an extra $1100 just to get 240hz...a difference you will never notice! Or spend an extra $300 and go down from 65" to 60", once again, to get the 240hz!

The w900a with the deep black panel on the other hand is definitely something to look at. This deep black panel will make the TV look good in bright, sun drenched rooms. Outside of that, it will look the same as the w850a. Throw in an extra 10 inches of screen size and I think the w850a makes for a much more compelling package!

$1100? What are we comparing to? Yes, I believe the W900A is the best LCD of 2013 IMHO with a very attractive price of $1675.
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I was faced with a very similar buying decision. I had whittled down my choices to either Sony or Sharp in large part because I couldn't find anymore Panasonic VT60 or ZT60s. My primary viewing distance is 11' and I was replacing a 50" Pioneer Elite Plasma, which felt a little bit small at that distance. I ended up choosing the Sony over Sharp-- the reviews of Sony/Sharp on CNET, Sound and Vision and other sites played a large role. One of my prime interests in the Sharps was due to their price/size, but I was ultimately turned off by the fairly consistent reviews of just "average" PQ or "good for the price" comments for the Sharps. Like your parents, I tend to replace my sets only when they're basically dead, so I decided that the extra $$ for a 65" Sony vs 60" Sharp over the life of set would be worth it. (IIRC, 70" Sharps are right in line with the 65" Sony prices).

Your choice, but the Sony with the Triluminos display will for sure make the better picture.
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Well I'm in the same situation as some of you guys. I'm closing on my first house in about 2 weeks and am definitely planning on getting a new TV shortly after. I have access to the EPP as well and am wondering if I should go ahead and take the plunge now and grab one of these TVs before I miss my chance.

Does anyone have an idea of how long the price/quantity will last since there are new models coming soon? I feel like 2000 is a pretty fair price for this TV, but it will set me back a bit from upgrading some of my furniture once I move into my house. I was planning to buy a new couch and a futon for the guest room...but I figure my current couch is sufficient for now...
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$1100? What are we comparing to? Yes, I believe the W900A is the best LCD of 2013 IMHO.

We are comparing a 65" f8000 to a 65" W850a that the member said will cost him $2000 via EPP. A 60" f8000 would actually be an extra $500 and you would be going down in size. Either way, all you really get is 240Hz and as i said, its a difference you will never notice.

The W900a might be the best LCD for 2013 but all im saying is the W850a is a much more compelling package!
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$1100? What are we comparing to? Yes, I believe the W900A is the best LCD of 2013 IMHO with a very attractive price of $1675.

I think he was referring to the samsung f8000 you mentioned which at the same size is about $1100 more than I what I can get the 65w850a for. For the w900a - It is very reasonable pricewise and a great panel but I really want 65 inches or more. 55 is not enough for my viewing distance (its why I'm buying a new TV in the first place)
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Well I'm in the same situation as some of you guys. I'm closing on my first house in about 2 weeks and am definitely planning on getting a new TV shortly after. I have access to the EPP as well and am wondering if I should go ahead and take the plunge now and grab one of these TVs before I miss my chance.

Does anyone have an idea of how long the price/quantity will last since there are new models coming soon? I feel like 2000 is a pretty fair price for this TV, but it will set me back a bit from upgrading some of my furniture once I move into my house. I was planning to buy a new couch and a futon for the guest room...but I figure my current couch is sufficient for now...

Keep an eye on the stock at places like Best Buy, J&R, Crutchfield, etc. That should give you a clue. For example, the W900A is no longer available online at J&R & Best Buy. The W850A came out later so it might stay around longer but probably will be disappearing too.
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I think he was referring to the samsung f8000 you mentioned which at the same size is about $1100 more than I what I can get the 65w850a for. For the w900a - It is very reasonable pricewise and a great panel but I really want 65 inches or more. 55 is not enough for my viewing distance (its why I'm buying a new TV in the first place)

Got it, thanks guys. 65 inches is the new 55 inches. A nice sweet spot. wink.gif
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I think he was referring to the samsung f8000 you mentioned which at the same size is about $1100 more than I what I can get the 65w850a for. For the w900a - It is very reasonable pricewise and a great panel but I really want 65 inches or more. 55 is not enough for my viewing distance (its why I'm buying a new TV in the first place)

I think size is the biggest reason to upgrade. But with the w850a you will get the added benefit of a good picture, something the 'sound and vision' review can attest to.
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Well I'm in the same situation as some of you guys. I'm closing on my first house in about 2 weeks and am definitely planning on getting a new TV shortly after. I have access to the EPP as well and am wondering if I should go ahead and take the plunge now and grab one of these TVs before I miss my chance.

Does anyone have an idea of how long the price/quantity will last since there are new models coming soon? I feel like 2000 is a pretty fair price for this TV, but it will set me back a bit from upgrading some of my furniture once I move into my house. I was planning to buy a new couch and a futon for the guest room...but I figure my current couch is sufficient for now...

Sony made the W900 from last January 2013 till now, I think it's still for sale new. It's a good selling TV with mostly all 5-star reviews on the Amazon site. This W850A set is similar and better so I expect it to continue well in sales. The new 2014 KDL-65W950B set, Sony shows it will be shipping starting on May 8th. I looked earlier today and don't see it listed for pre-order on the Sony site anymore.
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Your choice, but the Sony with the Triluminos display will for sure make the better picture.

I don't think that you can categorically say that. The ZT and VT series sets from Panasonic are/were some the best reviewed sets ever, and my 8 year old Pioneer Elite 1130HD stacks up extremely well against my W850a. Don't get me wrong, the W850a has a fantastic picture.
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Got it, thanks guys. 65 inches is the new 55 inches. A nice sweet spot. wink.gif

Not really...you just go as big as your budget and viewing distance allow!
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the w955b is not good at all. reviews are out and it's not looking good. buy 2013 w855 or w900 while you can. http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/kdl55w955b-201403103661.htm

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I don't think that you can categorically say that. The ZT and VT series sets from Panasonic are/were some the best reviewed sets ever, and my 8 year old Pioneer Elite 1130HD stacks up extremely well against my W850a. Don't get me wrong, the W850a has a fantastic picture.

Yea, I was sold when Cnet guys said the Panasonic plasma VT-30 had the best picture they had ever seen on a TV. So I bought this 55 inch VT-30 set for $2700 from Amazon. I was very impressed with the colors and especially the deep blacks that I had never seen on a TV before. I was disappointed that the set had to be on Vivid all the time and still was not bright enough to enjoy a 3D movie. Then I started reading about guys that have these plasma sets having burn in problems due to so many programs having their badges and logo's on the screen for the whole show.

The TV screen ran on the warm side helping heat up our air conditioned living room. I remember the Energy sticker was like $45 a year and that was on the Standard picture setting which on this set was not bright enough.

I kept watching the set for 2 years then one evening I turned it on to watch the world news. I got the 7-blinks of death, what the on indicator blinks 7 times then pauses and starts again. I have been in the TV business for over 30 years and am now long retired. I downloaded the 55 page color manual and spent a few hours double diagnosing the problem. The Y-Sustain board or SC board was defective. Panny suggest you also replace the SD and SU boards as they can cause the SC board to fail. This would cost me about $400 to fix it myself. I called Panny and they would fix it for $500 here in my home.

Then I read in some the Sony W850 customer reviews were one fellow also had bought a Panasonic plasma that failed and he found out they were using Chinese made ckt board made by part time collage students. I checked google and found many other of these sets failed with the same 7-blinks of death. This fellow also mentioned Samsung in their plasma's also use the chinese boards.

These failures and the fact the plasma sets are very heavy, possible burn in and use extra energy, Panasonic won't be selling any more after April. Samsung won't sell any more plasma's after this Fall.
I'm glad to see this so now let the OLED and LED competition begin. So far I think Sony is in the lead with their Triluminos sets using their fast Pro Reality processor.

So although i'm a big Sony fan and sold many when I had my sales and service shop years go, I still like Panasonic. They make great cordless phones and blu ray 3D players. I have their player will be very temped to buy a Sony 4K player that's backward compatible to the blu rays and DVDs.

I had saved up to buy the ZT-60 set by panasonic but they drug their feet on posting the price which started at $5000. Yes the VT-60 was more affordable and had the same exact picture quality. The last I saw it was a bargain, but I went with the larger screen Sony 65" LED set and am so glad I did.
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$1100? What are we comparing to? Yes, I believe the W900A is the best LCD of 2013 IMHO.

We are comparing a 65" f8000 to a 65" W850a that the member said will cost him $2000 via EPP. A 60" f8000 would actually be an extra $500 and you would be going down in size. Either way, all you really get is 240Hz and as i said, its a difference you will never notice.

The W900a might be the best LCD for 2013 but all im saying is the W850a is a much more compelling package!


Why? Because its bigger?
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Well I'm in the same situation as some of you guys. I'm closing on my first house in about 2 weeks and am definitely planning on getting a new TV shortly after. I have access to the EPP as well and am wondering if I should go ahead and take the plunge now and grab one of these TVs before I miss my chance.

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Sony made the W900 from last January 2013 till now, I think it's still for sale new. It's a good selling TV with mostly all 5-star reviews on the Amazon site. This W850A set is similar and better so I expect it to continue well in sales. The new 2014 KDL-65W950B set, Sony shows it will be shipping starting on May 8th. I looked earlier today and don't see it listed for pre-order on the Sony site anymore.


How is the W850A better then the W900A? Please explain cause I beg to differ WhiteSands. They are practically the same tv and if your basing better because of size then that don't make it better just bigger.
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Sony made the W900 from last January 2013 till now, I think it's still for sale new. It's a good selling TV with mostly all 5-star reviews on the Amazon site. This W850A set is similar and better so I expect it to continue well in sales. The new 2014 KDL-65W950B set, Sony shows it will be shipping starting on May 8th. I looked earlier today and don't see it listed for pre-order on the Sony site anymore.
In Canada, most of the 55W900A are gone. I have a couple of small dealers the 55W950B in stock already. I can get a good deal on the 55W950B but man it's a downgrade.
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Why? Because its bigger?

Read post #1891. I'm also factoring in the price you pay and what you get in return. So yes, screen size is one of the elements that make up my statement.
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How is the W850A better then the W900A? Please explain cause I beg to differ WhiteSands. They are practically the same tv and if your basing better because of size then that don't make it better just bigger.

And bigger is better!!!
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Having a dilemma. Appreciate some advice!

My original plan was to go for the 900A, I freaking love the PQ of it. However, 55" is simply too small for ~11FT distance IMO. Especially since my parents do not have the best eyes. I then realized I need a 60-65" TV. I did more research and started aiming towards the 65W850A. I went to the local BB last night to check it out and they had the 65W850A next to the Sharp 60LE755U.

Initially, I thought the 60LE755U actually looked better! But after carefully comparing for several minutes back and forth the colors on the 65W850A looked more accurate. Especially the blacks and skin tones. They just looked more natural/vibrant. However, the whites on the Sharp looked cleaner but maybe that could have been the source because other times the Whites looked superior on the Sony. It is annoying that BB picks these fast moving videos to demo the TV's. I wish they would put on Planet Earth/Life so that similar colors are on the screen for longer period of time. Also, the BB employee would allow me to play around with the TV settings/color modes because she said I cannot disturb the "demo" mode.

Now I am starting to think if my parents will simply be happy with the Sharp? If they have nothing to compare it to? It took me a good 5 minutes or so to start truly appreciating the Sony. It would be a good $530 price difference. Granted the Sony is 65" and the Sharp being 60", so huge difference in viewing area.

My heart/desire tells me to get the Sony ($2000 @ Sony EPP), but my logic tells me to go for the Sharp ($1500 @ BB... could not find this model on Amazon.) Then again, my parents do not replace TV's until they are literally broken. My mom's one true passion outside of cooking is watching her Indian TV dramas. I just want to make her happy as she has ALWAYS wanted a big screen TV and has sacrificed much for her kids.

Appreciate any advice. I am literally complementing back and forth. It helped a lot once I decided I want something bigger than the 55", feel like I am getting closer and closer to actually picking a TV.

Thanks AVS!

At 11 Ft you really want at least 65". I sit 12.5 Ft for my 65w850a and I find it too small. 10-11 Ft would be great for 65". 

 

Old folks can see and appreciate a nice screen when they see it too. $500 more for the nicer TV (sony) 5" bigger and a better more accurate PQ, not to mention the TV itself looks a lot nicer too. In the end it's your decision, do you wanna splurge and spend that extra $500. Just remember the TV will last a long time and it's an investment for your folks.

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I have now "owned" (in quotes for a reason - refer to end) both the 70R550A and the 65W850A (x3) over the past few months. Here is my take: I have always been a big Sony fan, having owned several Trinitrons, WEGA, Grand WEGA, XBR, etc. and in recent years my first two flat panel Sonys - a mid-range 52" purchased through Sams Club and the Playstation 24" 3D model.

 

Now that I am in the market for the 65"+ range, I have been excited to see what is on the market. I am drawn to Sony due to the color and features outweighing the competition. However, with the 70R550A I was disappointed. The size was amazing. The 3D was outstanding. But the color was splotchy and very inconsistent. The clarity was not as was promised. And the black level range left me wanting more. So I opted for the upgrade to the smaller size 65W850A hoping the Triluminous screen would help offset the fact that I was downgrading in size. This time, the color was off the chart good, and the blacks were better. Everyone immediately noted how much clearer the picture was. However, the Active 3D was annoying and nowhere near as good as the Passive of the 70R550A. 

 

Also, the 850A suffered from extreme uniformity issues in several areas - black around the edges, and black in the center of the screen, what some have referred to as a halo ring effect. To make things worse it was excessively light on the outer edges. I returned and replaced this TV 3 times hoping to get a "good" one. No luck. Each had the same issues to varying degrees. And to make matters worse, the 850A also has problems with the screen buzzing/humming like that of a plasma from a few years ago.

 

Sadly, I had to return all of the above for a full refund and I am now back to the research and hunt game looking for my next TV. I hope none have the issues I have described. I still love Sony and I am hopeful for the newer current models, but I am not happy with what I have seen so far unfortunately.

 

Best Buy had the 70R550A on sale for $1499 earlier this week and I even tried to order one again to try my luck once more, but it told me it was unavailable in my area. So frustrating. Why dangle a carrot you can't deliver on, Best Buy? 

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I have now "owned" (in quotes for a reason - refer to end) both the 70R550A and the 65W850A (x3) over the past few months. Here is my take: I have always been a big Sony fan, having owned several Trinitrons, WEGA, Grand WEGA, XBR, etc. and in recent years my first two flat panel Sonys - a mid-range 52" purchased through Sams Club and the Playstation 24" 3D model.

 

Now that I am in the market for the 65"+ range, I have been excited to see what is on the market. I am drawn to Sony due to the color and features outweighing the competition. However, with the 70R550A I was disappointed. The size was amazing. The 3D was outstanding. But the color was splotchy and very inconsistent. The clarity was not as was promised. And the black level range left me wanting more. So I opted for the upgrade to the smaller size 65W850A hoping the Triluminous screen would help offset the fact that I was downgrading in size. This time, the color was off the chart good, and the blacks were better. Everyone immediately noted how much clearer the picture was. However, the Active 3D was annoying and nowhere near as good as the Passive of the 70R550A. 

 

Also, the 850A suffered from extreme uniformity issues in several areas - black around the edges, and black in the center of the screen, what some have referred to as a halo ring effect. To make things worse it was excessively light on the outer edges. I returned and replaced this TV 3 times hoping to get a "good" one. No luck. Each had the same issues to varying degrees. And to make matters worse, the 850A also has problems with the screen buzzing/humming like that of a plasma from a few years ago.

 

Sadly, I had to return all of the above for a full refund and I am now back to the research and hunt game looking for my next TV. I hope none have the issues I have described. I still love Sony and I am hopeful for the newer current models, but I am not happy with what I have seen so far unfortunately.

 

Best Buy had the 70R550A on sale for $1499 earlier this week and I even tried to order one again to try my luck once more, but it told me it was unavailable in my area. So frustrating. Why dangle a carrot you can't deliver on, Best Buy? 

So what would you say is the better TV in terms of value/PQ. The 70R550A vs 65w850a. Is the extra  5" worth the worse color and clarity?

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the w955b is not good at all. reviews are out and it's not looking good. buy 2013 w855 or w900 while you can. http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/kdl55w955b-201403103661.htm

Very interesting indeed. It seems Sony's set are downgrading every year. The 65HX950 in 2012 was an amazing quality set. Sony seem to making the PQ worse each year. The 65w850a being better than the 2014 models.

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It's a tossup IMO - 70R550A wins for size and 3D, 65W850A wins for features/menus and color/PQ. I would, however, like to see a 70R550A that didn't have color uniformity issues (if that is even possible) to compare the 2 size by side. That is, if both were setup to optimal range using calibration tools and testing side by side. The 65W always got a "Wow - look at the color" but the 70R always got a "Wow - look at the size and the 3D is so real looking". Hope that helps.

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At 11 Ft you really want at least 65". I sit 12.5 Ft for my 65w850a and I find it too small. 10-11 Ft would be great for 65". 

Old folks can see and appreciate a nice screen when they see it too. $500 more for the nicer TV (sony) 5" bigger and a better more accurate PQ, not to mention the TV itself looks a lot nicer too. In the end it's your decision, do you wanna splurge and spend that extra $500. Just remember the TV will last a long time and it's an investment for your folks.

Thanks for your response!

I spoke with my dad, and also digesting all of the great feedback I received in this thread... I have decided to purchase the 65W850A from Sony EPP! I am going to wait to order until next Monday in hopes that a better sale comes up. It seems Sony.com changes their sales every Sunday like B&M retailers.

Unfortunately, I cannot wall mount the TV. Can anyone recommend a good stand that has the backbone to hold up the TV? I love this design as one can place the center channel speaker on the top shelf right under the speaker then the other equipment in shelves below.

I am currently debating between the following two (Both will support the 65" per reviews just fine):

Whalen XL-1
TransDeco TV Stand

I am leaning towards the Whalen because you can adjust the TV height. Also, one reviewer states:

"I have a 65" Panasonic which is 35" in height (the TV itself). I have my TV mounted at the lowest position using the mast and brackets. I have 30" of clearance from the floor and 8" of clearance from the top shelf. If I move the TV to the highest position on the brackets, I have an additional 7" of clearance. Based on where the bracket threads are on your TV, these numbers will shift around a little, but should give you an idea of your range."

Although, the TransDeco looks more elegant... but GF just told me it looks hideous. LOL!

Should I just get the Whalen or does anyone have another suggestion? Don't want to spend over $300 for a stand.
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It's a tossup IMO - 70R550A wins for size and 3D, 65W850A wins for features/menus and color/PQ. I would, however, like to see a 70R550A that didn't have color uniformity issues (if that is even possible) to compare the 2 size by side. That is, if both were setup to optimal range using calibration tools and testing side by side. The 65W always got a "Wow - look at the color" but the 70R always got a "Wow - look at the size and the 3D is so real looking". Hope that helps.

I respectfully disagree on your 3D statement. Active 3D is the only way to go unless you have a 4K TV. The w850a has incredible 3D. It puts the theatres to shame (passive).
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At 11 Ft you really want at least 65". I sit 12.5 Ft for my 65w850a and I find it too small. 10-11 Ft would be great for 65". 

Old folks can see and appreciate a nice screen when they see it too. $500 more for the nicer TV (sony) 5" bigger and a better more accurate PQ, not to mention the TV itself looks a lot nicer too. In the end it's your decision, do you wanna splurge and spend that extra $500. Just remember the TV will last a long time and it's an investment for your folks.

It really depends on the environment and what you have watched previously and your preferences and eyesight, hearing, etc. I have watched a 20 inch CRT from 10-11 feet for years and years and loved it. Then I went to a 46 inch and that seemed huge. Now a 55 inch TV seems huge. So whereas a 65 inch screen might be too small for you, it might not be for me and someone else. We need to remind ourselves of that from time to time.
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Thanks for your response!

I spoke with my dad, and also digesting all of the great feedback I received in this thread... I have decided to purchase the 65W850A from Sony EPP! I am going to wait to order until next Monday in hopes that a better sale comes up. It seems Sony.com changes their sales every Sunday like B&M retailers.

Unfortunately, I cannot wall mount the TV. Can anyone recommend a good stand that has the backbone to hold up the TV? I love this design as one can place the center channel speaker on the top shelf right under the speaker then the other equipment in shelves below.

I am currently debating between the following two (Both will support the 65" per reviews just fine):

Whalen XL-1
TransDeco TV Stand

I am leaning towards the Whalen because you can adjust the TV height. Also, one reviewer states:

"I have a 65" Panasonic which is 35" in height (the TV itself). I have my TV mounted at the lowest position using the mast and brackets. I have 30" of clearance from the floor and 8" of clearance from the top shelf. If I move the TV to the highest position on the brackets, I have an additional 7" of clearance. Based on where the bracket threads are on your TV, these numbers will shift around a little, but should give you an idea of your range."

Although, the TransDeco looks more elegant... but GF just told me it looks hideous. LOL!

Should I just get the Whalen or does anyone have another suggestion? Don't want to spend over $300 for a stand.

Costco sells a Sonax B-051-LMT here in Canada. I highly recommend this stand. I put it together in under 10min. Great quality! It was selling here in Dec of last year for 399CAD. It has large open shelves for components of any size.
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So what would you say is the better TV in terms of value/PQ. The 70R550A vs 65w850a. Is the extra  5" worth the worse color and clarity?

In short No. The 550a is not even in the same category as the w850a.
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I respectfully disagree on your 3D statement. Active 3D is the only way to go unless you have a 4K TV. The w850a has incredible 3D. It puts the theatres to shame (passive).

To each his own. Passive vs Active. Opinion. I am basing my findings on Sony R550 passive vs W850 active. R550 was clearly easier on my eyes. And the active shutter in the W850 made my eyes tired after 1 hour of use.

 

However, I will say the W850 3D looked great, just not as good as the passive R550. And the W850 PQ blows the R550 away in all other respects. I would love to see the Triluminous deep blacks in a passive model to compare to the W850.

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