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Also having trouble seeing any titles on the tv's netflix app as "superhd" or actual 3D.

For some reason Sony has decided not to enable 3D in the Netflix app for the W and even X series. I believe only the R series for 2013 had Netflix 3D...go figure!!!! rolleyes.gif

As far as Super HD is concerned, just hit the 'info' button on the Sony remote while streaming an HD title and you will see "1080 Super HD" in the top left corner of the screen.


Ah that's strange because I was just watching a Netflix 3D movie 2 nights ago and my tv is the 55W900A. confused.gif
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Ah that's strange because I was just watching a Netflix 3D movie 2 nights ago and my tv is the 55W900A. confused.gif

Yeah thats interesting! Just to be certain, was it the native Netflix app on your W900 or did you use some other device?

Heres the link that explains why some Sony TV models do not stream Netflix 3D:

https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/43644/~/what-is-required-to-stream-3d-video-from-the-netflix-service%3F
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Regarding the free 1-year of Netflix and Hulu, I want to thank all of the earlier posts that alerted me to this offer. I had no idea that Sony was doing this as it was buried in a footnote on the KDL 65w850a spec sheet. I cannot thank you guys enough for posting this information. As we are coming to the end of when you can redeem this offer I thought I would post the process I went through to obtain the free year of Netflix and Hulu. The Netflix offer takes a little work as you will need to call Sony to get the code. I followed the steps listed below and and within 48 hours I had the Netflix code in my inbox. Keep in mind that to be eligible for either offer you have had to purchase your 2013 Sony TV by March 31 2014 and redeem your offer by April 30th. Here is the exact language of the offer:

"Purchase by 3/31/2014 and redeem by 4/30/2014. Consumers who purchase a qualifying new 2013 Sony BRAVIA TV will receive a 12 month subscription to Netflix Unlimited Streaming service and Hulu Plus service on the $7.99/month plans. New, existing and past Netflix subscribers are eligible for the Netflix offer. Credit card is required to redeem the Hulu Plus offer and is open only to new subscribers.”

Netflix Offer
1. Call Sony at 1-888-222-7669. During the automated menu select you need assistance on Sony TVs.
2. Once you get an operator on the phone tell him/her that you are calling to get assistance in redeeming the 1-year Netflix code for purchasing a 2013 Sony TV. If they ask you where you saw this offer tell them it on spec sheet for the KDL 65w850a spec sheet that is on Sony.com.
3. The customer service rep will give you a case #. Copy that down. They will tell you that you need to fax in your receipt to them. The fax number they gave me is 239-768-7816. They will also need your email address. Simply fax your receipt for your TV along with your Case # and include your email address on the fax.
4. Within 48 hours you will receive a code from Sony and a Netflix link. You enter the code and you will get 1-year of Netflix for free. You need to do this before April 30th, so best to get this in now.

Hulu Offer
1. If you want to get the Hulu 1-year free offer just click on this link: http://www.huluplus.com/SonyTV2013
2. All you will need is the activation code that is displayed when you launch the Hulu app on your TV. You will need to enter in a credit card and use an email address that Hulu does not have on file (providing you have used Hulu in the past). Enter the code as displayed on your TV and this will activate Hulu for 1-year. Just remember to cancel in 12 months or you will get billed on a monthly basis.

Pretty sweet deal. I successfully redeemed the offers and I am currently enjoying both services.

Unfortunately I bought just after 4/1. frown.gif
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So I have had my 70R550A tv for 40 days. Broke 2 yesterday. They offered to give me the 65w850a to replace it. I don't want to lose the 5". So am wondering, on anyone who has this t.v.. is it worth losing 5" for the picture quality or does the 70W850B has somewhat close picture quality as the 850A?
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So I have had my 70R550A tv for 40 days. Broke 2 yesterday. They offered to give me the 65w850a to replace it. I don't want to lose the 5". So am wondering, on anyone who has this t.v.. is it worth losing 5" for the picture quality or does the 70W850B has somewhat close picture quality as the 850A?

Can't say for the 70W850B, but I can say I had both the 70R550A and the 65W850A and what you lose in size you gain so much more in color depth and clarity. The W series blows the R away. However, the 70W does not have triluminous, so you would not get the same effect. But again, you would have to ask someone who has the 70W to compare. Just my two cents. Good luck.

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Jedibry. Thanks for the quick response.
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So I have had my 70R550A tv for 40 days. Broke 2 yesterday. They offered to give me the 65w850a to replace it. I don't want to lose the 5". So am wondering, on anyone who has this t.v.. is it worth losing 5" for the picture quality or does the 70W850B has somewhat close picture quality as the 850A?

I recently ordered a 850a and am expecting delivery on Monday. I know that the 850b is basically the successor to the 550a. From my comparison in the sony store the 850b is close to the 850a but the 850a just has the extra pop that's missing from the 850b. But if you liked the 550a than the 850b would be fine.
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I see that buydig.com have 65 inch curved screen KDL-65S990A for $1999 (price shown at final checkout). Did any of you consider this TV vs. the 850A? I bought my 850A from Amazon on March 30 and I'm debating if I should return it and go with the curved screen. I have only 5 days to decide thou.

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To all those who are techy:

How is TRILUMINOS display achieved without Quantum Dot (ColorIQ) technology?

Color: Color IQ™ optics emit pure, finely-tuned colors, enabling better color saturation and color rendering than other technologies in LCD TVs. Most LCD TVs available today offer size and definition at the expense of color, using a smaller color gamut that only achieves 60-70 percent of the NTSC standard. With Color IQ™ optics, LCD TVs and other displays can achieve 100 percent of the standard. The result – vibrant, dynamic, you-gotta-see-it-to-believe-it color.

So since the 850A does NOT have ColorIQ as the 55W900A are we loosing colors as stated on the company website who designed it for sony??
Checkout this:
http://www.qdvision.com/color-iq
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http://esupport.sony.com/US/p/support-info.pl?info_id=1308

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Don't get me wrong. I love my 850A but just wanted to understand the technology. Does the trailuminous achieve higher then typical 60% - 70%; say it achieves 90% but with quantum dot will hit the 100% of the NTSC colors??
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I see that buydig.com have 65 inch curved screen KDL-65S990A for $1999 (price shown at final checkout). Did any of you consider this TV vs. the 850A? I bought my 850A from Amazon on March 30 and I'm debating if I should return it and go with the curved screen. I have only 5 days to decide thou.




Is there a reason why you want to go to the curved 65s990? Do you not like your 65W850? From what I have read there is a lot of clouding issues with the Sony curved screen. Just curious why you are thinking of changing. Thanks.
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Is there a reason why you want to go to the curved 65s990? Do you not like your 65W850? From what I have read there is a lot of clouding issues with the Sony curved screen. Just curious why you are thinking of changing. Thanks.

 

I like my 850A but seems like curved screen is being introduced by most manufacturers. I read somewhere that 65s990 is same as 850A with curved and brighter screen.

One disadvantage I see is that it's heavy (about 120lb). It also uses passive 3D, I'm not sure if it's pro or con.

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I like my 850A but seems like curved screen is being introduced by most manufacturers. I read somewhere that 65s990 is same as 850A with curved and brighter screen.
One disadvantage I see is that it's heavy (about 120lb). It also uses passive 3D, I'm not sure if it's pro or con.

You might want to find out if the curved screen set uses the same S-PVA panel like the W850a set uses. This would insure the same deep blacks and brilliant colors as the W850 set.
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S-PVA? Name of manufacture?
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IPS = In Plane Switching. Considered the best LCD for image quality, color accuracy and viewing angles. But do not deliver the best response times (which would matter to sports fans, action movie fans, and/or gamers, especially if going with a 60Hz set).

S-PVA (or VA) = Vertical Alignment (the S-P means its the "super patterned" variant of VA). They are considered middle of the road in overall image quality. But they can produce the best contrast, so best blacks. But their response times can be worse than IPS.

TN = Twisted Nematic. Usually only used in smaller computer monitors. They are good for gaming, with the best response times. But they are the worst in color reproduction (they are only 6 bit panels, so don't truly reproduce the 16.7 million colors of the typical 8 bit panel).

Which is one is out right better for a TV though? Depends on some of the other components of the TV. Other things can be added on in the image processing to help compensate for weaknesses of any of the LCD types. Like I believe Sony/Samsung use the S-PVA (or have at some point) but have image processors designed to better enhance color reproduction than a typical one might have.
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I see that buydig.com have 65 inch curved screen KDL-65S990A for $1999 (price shown at final checkout). Did any of you consider this TV vs. the 850A? I bought my 850A from Amazon on March 30 and I'm debating if I should return it and go with the curved screen. I have only 5 days to decide thou.

At one time I was considering the KDL-65S990A. There were two local stores that had it on display. At the first store they constantly ran a live feed of ESPN and the showroom was quite bright. The picture looked very good and the curve is relatively subtle and I was interested in the TV. I looked for some professional reviews and could not find any. When I went to another store that had the S990A on displayed they basically told me they would not sell the TV to me due to the bright spots on the panel. I had already developed a relationship with the salesman and was also considering the KDL-65w850a. Both were in the same room so I could easily compare the two. The issue with the S990A are not only uniformity issues with the panel, but also with the what I would call "spotlights" in the four corners of the TV. We ran a bluray movie on the 990A and due to the letterboxing you could see that each corner had a bright light that can only be described as a spotlight. It was so bad I had to wonder if the screen was defective. On AVS you will see posts from other owners who discuss the uniformity issues of the 990A panel. I do think it is possible to modify these issues in the settings. The TV I saw likely was on vivid mode. In defense you will see several owners of the S990A say they love the TV and have no issues with the screen. I do think if you use the TV in a bright room and you modify the settings to reduce the screen uniformity issues then the TV can look quite qood. In comparing the same Blu-ray movie on the 850A there was no comparison. The 850A blacks were so solid and the picture just seemed to "pop" more that I gave up any thought of buying the S990A. A couple of things to note on the S990a is that it does use the Deep Black Panel that is also on the KDL 55w900A. The S990A uses Passive 3d glasses so that is either a plus or minus depending on your point of view. If you intend to put the S990A on a entertainment center the stand, i.e. legs, of the set are on the end of the TV. This means you have to have a very long entertainment center for it to fit. Unlike the 2014 Sony TVs the legs are not adjustable. Lastly the S990A has great speakers that sound wonderful. With the speakers on the left and right edge of the panel it truly puts other TV speakers to shame.

Anyway that is my experience with the S990A. If you have not seen the TV in person to put it through the paces I would caution buying it sight unseen. If you do decide to get it, be sure to check out the seller's return policy. For me the 850A is the perfect TV and has unsurpassed black levels.
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Thank you for the detailed information. I'm wandering if this set is being discontinued because of the uniformity issues. The fact that it has build in speakers is actually a minus for me because I use home stereo and speakers just make the TV wider. I also heard that passive 3d is not as good as active and one of the reasons why I bought this TV is for 3d.

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S-PVA? Name of manufacture?

The W855a European version uses a S-PVA panel made by Samsung.

The W850a American version uses a S-PVA panel made by LG.
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To all those who are TV gurus:

How is TRILUMINOS display achieved without Quantum Dot (ColorIQ) technology?

Color: Color IQ™ optics emit pure, finely-tuned colors, enabling better color saturation and color rendering than other technologies in LCD TVs. Most LCD TVs available today offer size and definition at the expense of color, using a smaller color gamut that only achieves 60-70 percent of the NTSC standard. With Color IQ™ optics, LCD TVs and other displays can achieve 100 percent of the standard. The result – vibrant, dynamic, you-gotta-see-it-to-believe-it color.

So since the 850A does NOT have ColorIQ as the 55W900A are we loosing colors as stated on the company website who designed it for sony??
Checkout this:
http://www.qdvision.com/color-iq
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http://esupport.sony.com/US/p/support-info.pl?info_id=1308

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To all those who are TV gurus:

How is TRILUMINOS display achieved without Quantum Dot (ColorIQ) technology?

Color: Color IQ™ optics emit pure, finely-tuned colors, enabling better color saturation and color rendering than other technologies in LCD TVs. Most LCD TVs available today offer size and definition at the expense of color, using a smaller color gamut that only achieves 60-70 percent of the NTSC standard. With Color IQ™ optics, LCD TVs and other displays can achieve 100 percent of the standard. The result – vibrant, dynamic, you-gotta-see-it-to-believe-it color.

So since the 850A does NOT have ColorIQ as the 55W900A are we loosing colors as stated on the company website who designed it for sony??
Checkout this:
http://www.qdvision.com/color-iq
And
http://esupport.sony.com/US/p/support-info.pl?info_id=1308

I need the techies and experienced folks:) of the message board to answer


Inputs Greatly appreciated


Without the Color IQ in a sense yes you are loosing colors because the Quantum Dots produce more colors then really necessary. But with the 850A you aint losing much that's for sure because next to the W9 its an excellent tv that deserves more credit then it has gotton in my opinion. People that own the 850 should be proud they own one because its one of Sony's best.
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I am very happy with my shiny new 65W850A
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Unfortunately I bought just after 4/1. frown.gif

You may be able to still get the Hulu offer.... followed the instructions and it worked for me Tried to call Sony to see if they would give me the free 1 year of Netflix (TV purchased on 4/20, so I knew it was a long shot) and they declined. I was nice about it... heck, I got a free year of Hulu and already have Netflix and Amazon Prime, so getting credit for one year of Netflix would have just been icing on the cake! My buddy works for Sony DADC, so I got the TV for his discount @ $1500.... pretty good deal.
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I am really excited to be getting this TV tomorrow. Looking for a stand with a mount. Any recommendations? Has to be decently priced, don't wanna spend a ton on the stand frown.gif
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Everyone's talking about WhiteSands' settings. Someone kindly link me to the post.

I think you will be amazed at this set's performance. No problem I will be glad to send you all my settings.
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Anyone with a March 2014 set happen to update to latest firmware? Curious to see if there were any issues.

I think the latest is PKG4.411AAA?

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I think you will be amazed at this set's performance. No problem I will be glad to send you all my settings.

Wow thank you so much for the detailed explanation of your settings. I can tell how kind of a person you must be.
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The manufacture date on my 65W850A is March 2014. Surprised that they continued manufacturing a 2013 model.
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