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dallow's Avatar dallow
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Looks like the first review for this set has gone up. Not too detailed I'm afraid, but I hope this means others are coming soon.

If anyone else spots other reviews, please post them here.

TV is set to go on sale the first week of October and is seen as the big brother to the 55" W900/905.


http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/sony-lcd-tv/sony-kdl65w850a.html
steve1971's Avatar steve1971
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The only question I have is why is Sony releasing the W850A when its pretty much the same as the W900A? Make's no sense to me.
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The only question I have is why is Sony releasing the W850A when its pretty much the same as the W900A? Make's no sense to me.

Extra 10 inches of pleasure?
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Extra 10 inches of pleasure?

Agree. I think many people (myself included) would have bought the W900 but it was to small. I almost caved a couple of weeks ago but I have had a 60" set for a few years now and didn't want to downgrade size wise.
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I can't figure out why Sony is jumping back and forth between "active" and "passive" across the TVs of late? I thought that they were headed for all
passive and then this one and the new X850 come out in active. Very confusing as to what they are up to frown.gif.
Gerry
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Even though passive is better in terms of cost of glasses and no lost of brightness you lose some resolution with the tv when watching 3D content also you might see some interlaced lines. Active 3D will give you Full HD in both eyes but with a slight lose of brightness, hopefully minimal cross talk or non at all. In Sony eyes picture quality is everything from 4K UHD, 3D, HD TV viewing that's probably why they went with the active 3d.
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Hello.
Has anyone else picked up that this display apparently has a slightly curved screen?



No mention of it on Sony US, but on Sony Canada it is described as helping give better viewing angles with a slight curve.

http://store.sony.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=100803&storeId=20153&langId=200&productId=8198552921666597720#additionalImage3
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so any other reviews for this set yet? If it's truly the bigger brother of the w900a I'm all of this set.
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Is this a Local Dimming set?

This are the specs listed:

Display and Picture Features

16:9
Full HD Resolution
Diagonal Screen Size : 64.5"
X-Reality PRO video processing
Motionflow XR 480
Local Dimming
3D Comb Filter
4:3 Default
Advanced Contrast Enhancer (ACE)
Clear Mode
Deep Color
Intelligent MPEG Noise Reduction
Intelligent Picture Optimizer
MPEG Noise Reduction
Picture Modes – Vivid, Standard, Custom, Photo-Vivid, Photo-Standard, Photo-Original, Photo-Custom, Cinema1, Cinema2, Game-Standard, Game-Original, Graphics, Sports, Animation


By the Specs it looks like its Local Dimming.
dallow's Avatar dallow
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It's Edge Lit with some kind of faux "local - dimming" feature. Not like a FALD set.
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Originally Posted by absurd_username View Post

Hello.
Has anyone else picked up that this display apparently has a slightly curved screen?



No mention of it on Sony US, but on Sony Canada it is described as helping give better viewing angles with a slight curve.

http://store.sony.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=100803&storeId=20153&langId=200&productId=8198552921666597720#additionalImage3

It shows on US site as shipping 10/4
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666597708
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I think you are confusing the W850a with the S990a that was announced at the same time.
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I'm buying this tomorrow, getting rid of my sharp quattron 857.
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I'm buying this tomorrow, getting rid of my sharp quattron 857.

buying online or instore? Please update thread with your impressions smile.gif
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Curious about any input lag associated with this TV. If anyone has any info, please post!
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Curious about any input lag associated with this TV. If anyone has any info, please post!
Not a gamer, so no insight from me, however TGM1024 knows Sony products quite well and has postulated that the w850 will perform very close to the w900 which has good reviews re input lag. I will very interested to read the reviews on this set. If PQ equals the w900 it will be difficult to pass up. I am hopeful it will be a good set to fill the gap until OLED technology matures.
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Not a gamer, so no insight from me, however TGM1024 knows Sony products quite well and has postulated that the w850 will perform very close to the w900 which has good reviews re input lag. I will very interested to read the reviews on this set. If PQ equals the w900 it will be difficult to pass up. I am hopeful it will be a good set to fill the gap until OLED technology matures.

Thanks for that info!

The w900 has 19ms of lag, which makes it one of the best for any HDTV. If the w850a has close to that and great PQ at 65", I may have found my new TV. cool.gif
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someone needs to buy this set so I know if it's worth purchasing smile.gif

If it's anything like thw w900a, I'm in.
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Has anyone sighted a 65W850a in the wild?

Amazon's status is still pre-order.

Sony estimates shipping on Tuesday, Oct. 8th.

Thanks for the links. All of us are awaiting the first shipments to reach the reviewers and owners. Personally, I feel some review sites are biased toward plasma, so I give an owners opinion a lot of weight. I am not a gamer, therefore picture quality and uniformity with decent blacks and color fidelity are what I hope are in positive reviews. Many of us have not been excited by any 65 inch sets thus far, but if the reviews are so-so, I for one will delay yet again ; as I have deep concerns about the quality control of the 65f8000. However, I am optimistic that our wait is over.
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Thanks for the links. All of us are awaiting the first shipments to reach the reviewers and owners. Personally, I feel some review sites are biased toward plasma, so I give an owners opinion a lot of weight. I am not a gamer, therefore picture quality and uniformity with decent blacks and color fidelity are what I hope are in positive reviews. Many of us have not been excited by any 65 inch sets thus far, but if the reviews are so-so, I for one will delay yet again ; as I have deep concerns about the quality control of the 65f8000. However, I am optimistic that our wait is over.

I an a gamer that does want the good motion, sharp edges, blacks, and shadow detail along with good input lag lol. Really want it all lol. Been torn between the w900 and the 70r550a since i started actually reading different reviews and this forum. My only problem is i sit 12' away and really want the bigger screen. But with most places listing the 70" for around 2200 with 5 more inches of real estate I'm hoping this set will be worth the extra 500 for a slightly smaller screen.
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Originally Posted by SonyPhila View Post

Even though passive is better in terms of cost of glasses and no lost of brightness you lose some resolution with the tv when watching 3D content also you might see some interlaced lines. Active 3D will give you Full HD in both eyes but with a slight lose of brightness, hopefully minimal cross talk or non at all. In Sony eyes picture quality is everything from 4K UHD, 3D, HD TV viewing that's probably why they went with the active 3d.

Sony went with a different panel on this set vs. the 900 and this is 4k so you are not talking about interlaced lines and half resolution for 3D. It's full resolution for each eye passive and active.
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Sony went with a different panel on this set vs. the 900 and this is 4k so you are not talking about interlaced lines and half resolution for 3D. It's full resolution for each eye passive and active.
I was under impression the w850 was 1080p but the x850 was 4k???
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I was under impression the w850 was 1080p but the x850 was 4k???

Correct - the w850a is not 4k.
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I noticed ABT has it in stock now and they don't charge tax (I think at least). I really want the black levels of the 950 coming from an Elite lcd tv and a Pioneer Kuro before that. I know this tv won't have that plus the FALD helps with any clouding or flash lighting you might have versus the edge lit display of the W850.
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The W850a is now shipping from Amazon - only a few left.

Now we need a good, in-depth hands on report, and an official thread. wink.gif
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I would love to order from Amazon but tax kills the deal for me. Looks like ABT is the only online retailer so far that has it tax free wise. I assume crutchfield will follow suit soon. I bet BB gets it in stock sometime this week also. I'm surprised a detailed review hasn't surfaced yet. It's been available to purchase on sony's store for close to 2 weeks.

I got it narrowed down to this set, a closeout 950, and a closeout Elite lcd that I just found this morning (with the later two being quite a bit more price wise).
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Really hoping this tv gets good ratings.......
Waiting for those reviews to hit the web!
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I'm bracing myself for disappointing black levels, because this set doesn't use the "deep black panel" like the W900A.

Plasma-level blacks are out of the question, but hopefully it can get acceptably close and uniformly so (no clouding or flashlighting), and still maintain the W-series low input lag. I'm itching to pull the trigger. smile.gif
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I currently have a PN60F8500

So undecided if i should keep it or get an LED...
So far the plasma has been great and i have not had any crazy Image retention (goes away in about 1 minute) on my GTAV 3-5 hour gaming sessions... but i am still paranoid....

I will be willing to trade for an LED if just like the post above can get "close"..
Still have about 3 weeks left to return the Plasma..............
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