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Can anyone tell me if the one connect box controls the clear motion rate (1200),pur color,micro dimming, UHD dimming or is those features built into the panels? I see the new line up of 9000 series UHDs has upgraded specs in these categories . Will we be getting those kind of upgrades in the SEK2500 with our 2013 model UN65F9000? 1440 CMR, UHD dimming, pur color, wide color enhancer plus, auto depth enhancer,instant on,etc.
I see the un65f9000 has a SLIM LED panel and the new models label the panel "UHD 4K LED" are these the same panels and just named different?
Thank you for any input.
I believe I have some answers. Clear motion rate is computed from I believe 3 factors, one is refresh rate of the panel, one is manner of backlighting, and the final one is processing power. The SEK 2500U provides a bigger processor, therefore you would expect it to provide a higher clear motion rate (although Samsung hasn't provided that data). Samsung does say that it provides UHD dimming and Cinema Black. They have said nothing about pur color, auto depth enhancer and despite the fact that I believe the UHD kit provides a better picture, better depth, etc., they have said nothing and I sure have no reason to know that they are included. Instant on definitely isn't included.
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Hello,

I was wondering if someone can help me with an issue that I didn't notice before. I have a slight but distracting white band that's about a 1/4" thick around the edges. I just recently upgraded to a sek2500 and updated to the latest firmware 1151 . I'm not sure if this was a problem before but I reset the tv to its factory settings to see if it would help and even used the original one connect box. The problem is still there. I'm wondering if there's anything I can do.

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Hello,

I was wondering if someone can help me with an issue that I didn't notice before. I have a slight but distracting white band that's about a 1/4" thick around the edges. I just recently upgraded to a sek2500 and updated to the latest firmware 1151 . I'm not sure if this was a problem before but I reset the tv to its factory settings to see if it would help and even used the original one connect box. The problem is still there. I'm wondering if there's anything I can do.

Here's a pic of what I am referring to. Thanks
http://flic.kr/p/oNf6Gn
That looks like backlight bleed. Is that representative of real-life, or does that photo highlight the issue?

All the sets I have seen exhibit some amount of backlight bleed (as have ALL thin bezel LED sets I have ever seen in my life). To reduce it, turn down your backlight and brightness settings. I have my backlight at 8 for movies in the dark room, and 10 regularly (9 is fine too). I turned brightness down to 43, and have been very happy with the results.

The factory settings (which you just reset to) have backlight and brightness way too high.

With my settings, the backlight bleed is imperceivable with the lights on, and barely perceivable with the lights off in the room.

My backlight bleed is also worst in the bottom-right corner. But yours looks different where it creeps up along the right edge and there is a circle of blackness that interrupts the bleed. So I am not sure if it is the same problem.
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That looks like backlight bleed. Is that representative of real-life, or does that photo highlight the issue?

All the sets I have seen exhibit some amount of backlight bleed (as have ALL thin bezel LED sets I have ever seen in my life). To reduce it, turn down your backlight and brightness settings. I have my backlight at 8 for movies in the dark room, and 10 regularly (9 is fine too). I turned brightness down to 43, and have been very happy with the results.

The factory settings (which you just reset to) have backlight and brightness way too high.

With my settings, the backlight bleed is imperceivable with the lights on, and barely perceivable with the lights off in the room.

My backlight bleed is also worst in the bottom-right corner. But yours looks different where it creeps up along the right edge and there is a circle of blackness that interrupts the bleed. So I am not sure if it is the same problem.
Backlight is at 7 and brightness is set as 45. Sorry for the poor iphone pic. What I am trying to illustrate is the small white band that is lined up with the bezel, it's basically all around the tv. I've never seen this with backlight bleeding, it's usually not uniform like this, so I'm wondering exactly what this is and if had anything to do with firmware. In the daytime this isn't noticeable but at night, in a dark room, it gets a little distracting with a white glow all around the edges of the picture.
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I believe I have some answers. Samsung does say that it provides UHD dimming and Cinema Black. They have said nothing about pur color, auto depth enhancer and despite the fact that I believe the UHD kit provides a better picture, better depth, etc., they have said nothing and I sure have no reason to know that they are included.
Here is the documentation for SEK-2500 evolution box, can you find answers there?
http://www.samsung.com/ae/support/mo.../XC-downloads#
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Here is the documentation for SEK-2500 evolution box, can you find answers there?
http://www.samsung.com/ae/support/mo.../XC-downloads#

Thanks, but for some reason I get nothing but "This page can't be displayed". Hopefully, Samsung will eventually make it available.
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I just purchased the UN55F9000 and love it. I bought it as an open box deal from HH Gregg. I love the picture and the quality, however I cannot figure out how to play 4k content. Reading this thread it appears that I need to buy the SEK-2500U evolution kit. I have two questions:

1. Should I buy the evolution kit or should I wait a little longer for a newer one to become available?

2. I have a Galaxy S5 and have UHD videos. I have tried everything to get my TV to play those videos. I keep getting the error that my 4k "TV does not support 3840x2160 Screen Resolution". I have tried to stream through allshare, play direct from my pc via hdmi, play direct from usb, convert using DivX to HEVC 4k and then repeated the above steps. Nothing will allow my videos to be played.


Is the only way to get the videos to be played is to buy the evolution kit? What can my TV do in regards to 4k without the evolution kit?
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I just purchased the UN55F9000 and love it. I bought it as an open box deal from HH Gregg. I love the picture and the quality, however I cannot figure out how to play 4k content. Reading this thread it appears that I need to buy the SEK-2500U evolution kit. I have two questions:

1. Should I buy the evolution kit or should I wait a little longer for a newer one to become available?

2. I have a Galaxy S5 and have UHD videos. I have tried everything to get my TV to play those videos. I keep getting the error that my 4k "TV does not support 3840x2160 Screen Resolution". I have tried to stream through allshare, play direct from my pc via hdmi, play direct from usb, convert using DivX to HEVC 4k and then repeated the above steps. Nothing will allow my videos to be played.


Is the only way to get the videos to be played is to buy the evolution kit? What can my TV do in regards to 4k without the evolution kit?
You will need the 2014 UHD Evolution kit to play any HEVC encoded 4k files. I would buy one now, unless you want to wait until Summer of next year for the 2015 kit (I am guessing on the timeline based on this year's release).

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You will need the 2014 UHD Evolution kit to play any HEVC encoded 4k files. I would buy one now, unless you want to wait until Summer of next year for the 2015 kit (I am guessing on the timeline based on this year's release).
Thanks. Is there any information on what the 2015 may feature?
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Thanks, but for some reason I get nothing but "This page can't be displayed". Hopefully, Samsung will eventually make it available.
It works for me, but does this link work better for you?
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/co...1.111-0627.pdf
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Thanks. Is there any information on what the 2015 may feature?
Nope. We can only speculate that it will include an improved processor, new SmartHub software, and any HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 hardware changes if any.

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It works for me, but does this link work better for you?
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/co...0728112348182/[ENG]GP9DVBEUH-1.111-0627.pdf

Yes. Thanks!
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I just got my UN55F9000 .... The price was outstanding ( being the discontinued model ). I'm a tv afficionado and this is probably the best tv I've ever owned. So now....normally this is not within my budget and my pay tier....Just can't afford to just "upgrade" every time. ala apple iphones

Would definetly want to get the new one connect box 2500 and the UHD SUC10SH video pack ( but really can't ).

Question : ( For the budget concious that shouldn't buy these kind of tv's )

Is there maybe a newer Samsung 4K Blue Ray to stream the Netflix (4k) and store 4K movies in a usb drive for any cheaper short cuts? I'd think this would be an excellent answer since the 9000 panel just really is a (better)computer monitor to display whatever the input source would give it.

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Can everyone tell us if the Netflix at 4K ( On the 2500U box ) look as good as we see on those images displayed like they show-off at the Best Buy Samsung stores?

Just trying to see if the return on the upgrade is really that worth it.

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Does anyone know how to change the video quality in the Youtube app? I am playing 4k videos but cannot figure out at what resolution it is really playing.
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Does anyone know how to change the video quality in the Youtube app? I am playing 4k videos but cannot figure out at what resolution it is really playing.

Can't get to the F9000 now to comfirm; but I'm relatively sure that you can use the "info" button on the original/large IR remote. Or use the info button on the tool kit on the new remote.
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Does anyone know how to change the video quality in the Youtube app? I am playing 4k videos but cannot figure out at what resolution it is really playing.
You can't change it, until Youtube app is updated to support 4k
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Does that mean that the Youtube app only plays 1080 for all hd videos?

If so, I am thoroughly impressed by the 4k videos playing through the Youtube app at 1080. Can't wait to see how they will look at actual 4k when it's available.
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The YouTube app on the latest Samsung 4K TVs automatically plays videos in 2160p if available on YouTube. You can check the resolution on any computer to see if 2160p was uploaded by clicking on Settings > Quality. One nice movie trailer in 2160 4K can be found on YouTube by searching for "Lucy 4K trailer". You'll need a 2014 4K Samsung or a 2013 F9000 with an updated one connect box to play 4K videos from YouTube (or the half dozen titles posted on Netflix). Another nice 4k video on YouTube which Samsung included on their latest video pack can be found by searching for "Vancouver city 2 time lapse". Looks stunning! There's hundreds of great 4K videos on YouTube. Just search for "4K" but be sure to check the resolution before adding them to your favorite list. These can then be played on your TV app by going to favorites.
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The YouTube app on the latest Samsung 4K TVs automatically plays videos in 2160p if available on YouTube. You can check the resolution on any computer to see if 2160p was uploaded by clicking on Settings > Quality. One nice movie trailer in 2160 4K can be found on YouTube by searching for "Lucy 4K trailer". You'll need a 2014 4K Samsung or a 2013 F9000 with an updated one connect box to play 4K videos from YouTube (or the half dozen titles posted on Netflix). Another nice 4k video on YouTube which Samsung included on their latest video pack can be found by searching for "Vancouver city 2 time lapse". Looks stunning! There's hundreds of great 4K videos on YouTube. Just search for "4K" but be sure to check the resolution before adding them to your favorite list. These can then be played on your TV app by going to favorites.
I've downloaded a few and compared them to the quality in the app (F9000 with 2014 Evolution kit). I'm not convinced the app delivers 4k.
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I downloaded about 50 files using the 4K Video Downloaded to an MP4 file. I put them on the Samsung USB 3.0 hard drive. Then myself and two friends who also have the same 4K TV kept going back and forth between the downloaded version and the YouTube app version, pausing both versions. The three of us were expecting the YouTube app to have lesser quality than the downloaded MP4 files but try as hard as we could, we could not tell which was which. I'm also using the F9000 with 2014 One Connect box. Does the downloaded files such as "Vancouver City 2 Time Lapse" look stunning on your set? That's a good test file because Samsung thought it quality enough to include it in their latest video pack. I assume all your firmware and YouTube app is up to date. btw, what is your download speed? I'm at ~50 Mbs.

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I downloaded about 50 files using the 4K Video Downloaded to an MP4 file. I put them on the Samsung USB 3.0 hard drive. Then myself and two friends who also have the same 4K TV kept going back and forth between the downloaded version and the YouTube app version, pausing both versions. The three of us were expecting the YouTube app to have lesser quality than the downloaded MP4 files but try as hard as we could, we could not tell which was which. I'm also using the F9000 with 2014 One Connect box. Does the downloaded files such as "Vancouver City 2 Time Lapse" look stunning on your set? That's a good test file because Samsung thought it quality enough to include it in their latest video pack. I assume all your firmware and YouTube app is up to date. btw, what is your download speed? I'm at ~50 Mbs.
I'm at 100Mbps and no cap (Europe, you know). I didn't do such an extensive comparison as you did, but I guess I will have to now
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The YouTube app on the latest Samsung 4K TVs automatically plays videos in 2160p if available on YouTube.
I hope you right, last time I checked I was on 2013 Kit F9000, so it played up 1080p, I expected the same for 2014, hope its not and youtube can play 4k natively. Does it use HEVC I wonder, I presume it does, otherwise why 2013 didn't play it.

It'll test tonight mentioned videos, thank for a hint.
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Finally my 2014 kit arrived and I managed to watch Netflix 4k. Not sure how others quote it stunning, amazing, I tried House Of Cards, Smurfs 2, Moving Arts series, none of them looked as amazing as samsung demos, maybe I expected too much, but I didn't find much difference between 1080p and 4K House of Cards, which was filmed in 4K natively (I confirmed it was running 2160p). Maybe it is CNET settings which migrated from 2013 kit. What's your "sharpness" when you watch 4k guys?
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Finally my 2014 kit arrived and I managed to watch Netflix 4k. Not sure how others quote it stunning, amazing, I tried House Of Cards, Smurfs 2, Moving Arts series, none of them looked as amazing as samsung demos, maybe I expected too much, but I didn't find much difference between 1080p and 4K House of Cards, which was filmed in 4K natively (I confirmed it was running 2160p). Maybe it is CNET settings which migrated from 2013 kit. What's your "sharpness" when you watch 4k guys?
What did you expect? Netflix will not look the same as true 4K content. It's all streamed buffering content.
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What did you expect? Netflix will not look the same as true 4K content. It's all streamed buffering content.
Still, why bother with publishing Ultra HD titles if it looks the same as 1080p Just marketing I suppose.
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What did you expect? Netflix will not look the same as true 4K content. It's all streamed buffering content.
To be fair, Netflix 4k is "true" 4k content in that the pixel count is 4x that of 1080p, but the compression is more suitable for streaming which is the real issue.
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Still, why bother with publishing Ultra HD titles if it looks the same as 1080p Just marketing I suppose.
It's much better than 1080p, but not as good as high bitrate 4k content can look.
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To be fair, Netflix 4k is "true" 4k content in that the pixel count is 4x that of 1080p, but the compression is more suitable for streaming which is the real issue.
Yes that's want I meant, that's why the quality is not on par with the 4K demos.

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