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The Sony's are looking great. Nice to see the return of full array, but it's too bad that its on a TV very few can afford. The mid and entry level UHD TVs also look pretty good.

I may end up getting the Sony X850B instead of the Samsung U8500.
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The Sony's are looking great. Nice to see the return of full array, but it's too bad that its on a TV very few can afford. The mid and entry level UHD TVs also look pretty good.

I may end up getting the Sony X850B instead of the Samsung U8500.

Dare I say it looks like they are releasing too many models this year! I wonder will they drop the prices on their current 4K lineup to make room for the new line up.
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Never thought I would say it about Sony but they can keep their TV's this year. I was holding out hope of a Monolithic design but that's out.
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Did everyone abandon 3D, I don't see one announcement with 3D!

Ok, i'm freaking out now, someone please slap me.
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Did everyone abandon 3D, I don't see one announcement with 3D!

Ok, i'm freaking out now, someone please slap me.


Look like they did this year. They are all pushing their 4K crap. rolleyes.gif
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Did everyone abandon 3D, I don't see one announcement with 3D!

Ok, i'm freaking out now, someone please slap me.


Sony still supports it, relax. The Sony X950B looks very promising, can't wait to see it.

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There is some good news for gamers, and that is that all the new 1080p sets from Sony seem to be using the same X-reality pro engine from the 2013 sets which means low input lag. The bad news it, they skimped out on the 2014 1080p sets and their charging more. The w950b, which is replacing the w900a, drops the xr960 in favor of xr480, which to me says it is using a 120hz panel mad.gif It is basically the same tv as the w850a. I dont know how anyone is going to compete with Vizio here. Fingers crossed that they have low input lag.
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There is some good news for gamers, and that is that all the new 1080p sets from Sony seem to be using the same X-reality pro engine from the 2013 sets which means low input lag. The bad news it, they skimped out on the 2014 1080p sets and their charging more. The w950b, which is replacing the w900a, drops the xr960 in favor of xr480, which to me says it is using a 120hz panel mad.gif It is basically the same tv as the w850a. I dont know how anyone is going to compete with Vizio here. Fingers crossed that they have low input lag.

Yea UFO it looks as though Vizio is coming out with some impressive sets for 2014. Not good for Sony, Samsung ect.
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Let me rephrase my question, are there any Passive 3D for 2014.

Sony X950B is active.

4K was perfect for Passive 3D, but I don't see any announced.
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Did everyone abandon 3D, I don't see one announcement with 3D!

Ok, i'm freaking out now, someone please slap me.

Sony will support 3D from Flagship X950B to the W800B. Samsung is still supporting it as well, but they are both quietly supporting it.
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I know with the new Vizio reference series people are asking about the price for the 120 inch, but how much do you think they would charge for the 65 inch?

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I know with the new Vizio reference series people are asking about the price for the 120 inch, but how much do you think they would charge for the 65 inch?
If they price aggressively I would say $3000-$6000. The Sharp Elite 60" was 5 or 6 grand I think when it launched,so couldn't imagine being more than that.
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The very first Sharp 70" was full array, but no local dim, and it retailed for under $3000 back in 2011. I fully expect that they will undercut that.

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There is some good news for gamers, and that is that all the new 1080p sets from Sony seem to be using the same X-reality pro engine from the 2013 sets which means low input lag. The bad news it, they skimped out on the 2014 1080p sets and their charging more. The w950b, which is replacing the w900a, drops the xr960 in favor of xr480, which to me says it is using a 120hz panel mad.gif It is basically the same tv as the w850a. I dont know how anyone is going to compete with Vizio here. Fingers crossed that they have low input lag.

The Sony X950B has motionflow XR960. Check again. Oops sorry I thought you were talking about the X950b not the W950b.

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The Sony X950B has motionflow XR960. Check again.

Check my post again, I was referring to the w950b, not x950b.
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I'm confused. I was told passive 3D is better than active 3D. All of Sony's 2014 higher end 4K TVs are active 3D and the lower end X850B models are passive 3D. Is one better than the other? Or is it just personal preference.
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Let me rephrase my question, are there any Passive 3D for 2014.

Sony X950B is active.

4K was perfect for Passive 3D, but I don't see any announced.

The X850B 4Ks are now passive. Go figure.
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There's a 85" FULL ARRAY 4K TV!!!! :O

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There's a 85" FULL ARRAY 4K TV!!!! :O

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Vizio's is bigger.

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Vizio's is bigger.

Ah really?

But for one thing, it doesn't have Quantum Dots which isn't some kind of gimmick.
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To Carlos:

I was a huge fan of Active due to the "true 1080p" for each eye.

After living with Active 3D for a few years, I now prefer Passive.

The "true 1080p" to each eye comes at a cost.

Active (for me):

Gives a headache
Causes eye strain
Annoying having to charge the glasses
Annoying having to change the batteries on the glasses
Having to turn on and off the glasses to sync with TV
Heavy glasses are uncomfortable
Buzzing sound
Expensive glasses

Passive (for me):
No headache
No eye strain
No charging
No batteries
No syncing, ready to go
Comfortable light weight glasses
No buzzing
Inexpensive

Make mine Passive.
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Ah really?

But for one thing, it doesn't have Quantum Dots which isn't some kind of gimmick.

Read up on the 120" Vizio, it is probably the most impressive thing to come out of CES in years.

http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/06/vizio-ultra-hd-2014/

http://m.cnet.com/reviews/vizio-rs120/35833922

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Read up on the 120" Vizio, it is probably the most impressive thing to come out of CES in years.

http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/06/vizio-ultra-hd-2014/

Katzmier looked at it... http://cnettv.cnet.com/vizio-we-ve-made-best-tv-world/9742-1_53-50161360.html

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Read up on the 120" Vizio, it is probably the most impressive thing to come out of CES in years.

http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/06/vizio-ultra-hd-2014/


Very good specs, but at the end of the day it's just a Vizio. Vizio TV's in Canada are known for customers that buy tv's at Walmart. (No offence to Vizio owners) But this year they seemed to stepped up their game. We will see how really good they are when they come out.

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Those suggesting that the 120" model might come in around 5K are forgetting something. Even that Chinese manufactuer (Hisense) is pricing their 50" 4K bottom of the line sets at a couple grand. And they have the advantage of using the cheapest parts and the cheapest labor. When you add in FABL technology with that screen size and 4K how anyone can expect a price under 25 grand eludes me. Since they said it was "affordable", I would lower my guess from 50K to 25K but I would be shocked if it were cheaper than that. Even at 25K, that would blow away the competition on pricing for screen sizes that large and I just don't see it. I would love to be proved wrong though.
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Read up on the 120" Vizio, it is probably the most impressive thing to come out of CES in years.

http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/06/vizio-ultra-hd-2014/

Vizio truly stole the show this year. This is a perfect example of a company that was at the bottom and has steadily been climbing the ladder to the top.
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Let me rephrase my question, are there any Passive 3D for 2014.

Sony X950B is active.

4K was perfect for Passive 3D, but I don't see any announced.

There are a few. Vizio dropped 3D from all its lines save their reference P-series, which I would imagine will be passive. The only LG 1080p sets that have 3D are the top LB7100/7200 models. Sony continues to have several models that are 3D, but for 2014 the top of the line 1080p models are the passive sets (W950B) while the cheaper ones are active. That's a switch from 2013, where the cheaper models were passive. I haven't read much about Samsung unfortunately. If any of them are 3D, I wouldn't be surprised at them being active.
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Very good specs, but at the end of the day it's just a Vizio. Vizio TV's in Canada are known for customers that buy tv's at Walmart. (No offence to Vizio owners) But this year they seemed to stepped up their game. We will see how really good they are when they come out.

Are you really going to base a tv off of a brand name? Yes it is true that a brand earns a reputation, but Vizio has done nothing but show consumers how serious they are in becoming a top tier brand. A few years ago I would have never considered a Vizio because the picture quality was in the ranks of the cheap chinese tv's. Now though, they have destroyed Sony, Samsung, LG, Sharp, and virtually any other manufacturer in the LCD 4K large tv segment. Of course all we really have now is specs, but from the quick review done by David Katzmaier and the other product video, the entire lineup of 2014 Vizio sets are nothing but impressive. Even the cheaper E-series should be better than most other offerings from Samsung, Sony, and LG.
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Are you really going to base a tv off of a brand name? Yes it is true that a brand earns a reputation, but Vizio has done nothing but show consumers how serious they are in becoming a top tier brand. A few years ago I would have never considered a Vizio because the picture quality was in the ranks of the cheap chinese tv's. Now though, they have destroyed Sony, Samsung, LG, Sharp, and virtually any other manufacturer in the LCD 4K large tv segment. Of course all we really have now is specs, but from the quick review done by David Katzmaier and the other product video, the entire lineup of 2014 Vizio sets are nothing but impressive. Even the cheaper E-series should be better than most other offerings from Samsung, Sony, and LG.

No, I base my opinion on picture quality. Vizio has never impressed me. They are cheap tv's here in Canada. That's what they are known for, ( budget tv's). I'm not knocking it, I stated that they have come up and put themselves in the game with the big boys but you say "destroyed all competition in LCD's", like you seen them all in a shoot out or something. You are just going by specs and by a quick review. I'm not really interested in LCD's anyways, I was hoping for some good Samsung Plasma or OLED news.

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