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http://i.imgur.com/dlMWR66.png?1

Looks like reference was on there, too. I pulled up the google cache of vizio.com.
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I get Netflix's DD+ 5.1 out of the optical connector on both my E601i-B3 in the living room and my E550i-B2 in the master bedroom. Hope this helps.
I have the 2014 M602i-B3 60-inch, I get DD+ 5.1 on Netflix and Amazon (the 2 sources I have tested) across the ARC HDMI hookup to my Pioneer Elite SC-37 receiver.
Make sure the video streaming actually says 5.1 on it btw, I thought it wasn't working properly when I was re-watching The Wire on Amazon, found out it wasn't encoded in 5.1 found others that specifically showed the 5.1 icon in the description (ex. Extant with Hallie Berry) and played just fine full DD+
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Looks like reference was on there, too. I pulled up the google cache of vizio.com.
Thanks that's exactly what I saw. Now that the site is back up you don't see any of that. Got all excited lol
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Deos this mean the reference series isn't vaporware after all.
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Deos this mean the reference series isn't vaporware after all.
Hopefully but I have a feeling we wont see it this year. When I asked about the P series on their Facebook page I always got the same answer (this Fall). When I ask about the R series I get the same we don't have any info on a release date yet.
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Hopefully but I have a feeling we wont see it this year. When I asked about the P series on their Facebook page I always got the same answer (this Fall). When I ask about the R series I get the same we don't have any info on a release date yet.
Someone said the p series would be released in august a few months ago, but I think the hold up with the R series is logistics and actually making a panel that size. Besides that no pricing info for it there's no way it will cost less than samsungs 110". I think they should at least make the 65" and other sizes would be nice to see how it compares to the 950b considering it's specs on paper.
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Looks like the vizio page is back up. I didn't see anything about the P series.
Partially; the links for Audio still take you to the maintenance page. Doesn't mean much for the P-series, I guess, unless it just means they're not finished.
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I get Netflix's DD+ 5.1 out of the optical connector on both my E601i-B3 in the living room and my E550i-B2 in the master bedroom. Hope this helps.
You can't get DD+ out of S/PDIF or ARC, only basic DD 5.1, basic DTS 5.1 and 2 channel LPCM. But if you're getting DD then the television must be converting, which is what I wanted to know. Thanks.
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You can't get DD+ out of S/PDIF or ARC, only basic DD 5.1, basic DTS 5.1 and 2 channel LPCM. But if you're getting DD then the television must be converting, which is what I wanted to know. Thanks.
The TVs are set to bitstream, and my Sony STR-DH-540 receivers are both displaying Dolby Digital + in both cases. If this is an error on Sony's part, I don't know -- but standard Dolby Digital signals from other sources are not showing the "+".
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Actually, don't. Because as soon as you do, people will plug them into their TV and expect perfect color, and when panel discrepancies result in WORSE color, they'll blame the set.

This is the bad advice that just won't die...
Put the settings up, and just make it very clear in the post that these settings may not work for you panel, because not every model is the exactly the same.

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Then go to a factory picture mode, like Calibrate and enter the new settings from the forums. That mode will automatically be renamed to Custom #, after your done, you can rename this to something else, I called mine AVS Set.

Now, I chose a very nice hi res picture to display on the screen to see differences. Now, you can instantly switch back and forth between Your old settings, and the AVS forum settings, and see if you like the settings or not. It only takes about 10mins to enter all the settings in, and you saved your old settings, and new settings. So, you really have nothing to lose but a little time.

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I see a lot of people saying that took the setting from Cnet and it didn't work for them. A lot of these people don't even own the same model, so, it's pretty much a given that they wouldn't work. Remember, you have to at least have the exact same model, or your probably really going to be wasting your time.

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Lets hope the P Series rollout goes smoother than their new website! 6 hours and counting and every time I refresh its a different page look (old site, "we'll be right back", half broken new site)
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FWIW - Why its flapping between the looks is they have 2 webservers (well, the first is a webserver, the 2nd is a Varnish web cache) listed in their DNS:

www.vizio.com. 49 IN A 54.187.107.109
www.vizio.com. 49 IN A 54.201.8.253

The first is what's returning the "we'll be right back" page, the 2nd is what's returning the old site.

No information here. Just feverishly hitting refresh for more info.

Not that the actual number I want is going to be on the site - does the P Series significantly increase the non-processed (i.e. non-SOE) motion resolution number over the M Series. If yes, I'll take it, if not, probably going to settle with a Sammy 8550.
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No one really knows the answer to that until the sets are released and tests are done in them. It "should" be better, but no one will know for sure until they are reviewed.


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No one really knows the answer to that until the sets are released and tests are done in them. It "should" be better, but no one will know for sure until they are reviewed.
Here's hoping they gave review models to the usual suspects at the June 9th-ish embargoed press event!
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Here's hoping they gave review models to the usual suspects at the June 9th-ish embargoed press event!

I highly doubt it, but they may have been given more information about it.


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Looks like reference was on there, too. I pulled up the google cache of vizio.com.

I caught the cache for the P Series product page. Got lucky as I don't see it on google anymore. Click the link then you'll probably get a popup window talking about some error but hitting ok loads cached page which has about 15 scrolling pages.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&client=safari
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I caught the cache for the P Series product page. Got lucky as I don't see it on google anymore. Click the link then I get a popup window talking about some error but hitting ok brings me to the cached page which has about 10 scrolling pages.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&client=safari

Here is the R-Series:


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Reading those pages and looking at the specs and features it's almost like vizio was making sure these sets had everything and more that the competitors had if the R65 is in fact coming out that's the set id like to try out. The p series looks great to but it says up to 72 zones now instead of 96.
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Reading those pages and looking at the specs and features it's almost like vizio was making sure these sets had everything and more that the competitors had if the R65 is in fact coming out that's the set id like to try out. The p series looks great to but it says up to 72 zones now instead of 96.

That could be updated, but would fall inline with the "jump" we saw in the M series (65=32 and 70=36), the P-series may be 64 for 65 and 72 for 70. The cost/performance is where I'm looking at. The M or P series may be able to hold me over for a year or two while things get worked out. I may then
Be able to pick up a discounted R series or next gen set. If I'm happy enough I may just wait for OLED.


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That could be updated, but would fall inline with the "jump" we saw in the M series (65=32 and 70=36), the P-series may be 64 for 65 and 72 for 70. The cost/performance is where I'm looking at. The M or P series may be able to hold me over for a year or two while things get worked out. I may then
Be able to pick up a discounted R series or next gen set. If I'm happy enough I may just wait for OLED.


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Yea were both kind of in the same spot. While I could buy a samsung or sony 4k I just don't see it as a good investment until things are final in the next couple of years, besides that I've already seen oled and that's what I'm going to wait out for as well. So hopefully these sets turn out to be great sets or I'll just look at the other sets available.
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I caught the cache for the P Series product page. Got lucky as I don't see it on google anymore. Click the link then I get a popup window talking about some error but hitting ok brings me to the cached page which has about 10 scrolling pages.

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GREAT!!! A little CSS fixing up and they are good to go... We need the R-series at least in the 65" inch size.
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Reading those pages and looking at the specs and features it's almost like vizio was making sure these sets had everything and more that the competitors had if the R65 is in fact coming out that's the set id like to try out. The p series looks great to but it says up to 72 zones now instead of 96.
Yeah, I caught that too. I don't think we ought to assume the 72 zones (9R x 8C I'm assuming) is exclusive to just the 70 inch size model.

I don't think there's much doubt that the R series will be a reality but it may carry over to next year.

The presentation says how well the SSE will upconvert 1080p sources but no mention of how well it will upconvert 720p or 480p (DVD) sources. I hope this doesn't mean these lower sources will look worse than it would on a 1080p display.

Perhaps I'm wrong but this is the first time I've heard of the 3P engine for the P series.

"Pure Pixel Processing: A collection of picture processing innovations removes unwanted artifacts and improves edge detection to deliver the ultimate clarity in every detail"

Unlike the M series which doesn't seem to benefit much from any of the technology from the P and R series, the P series appears to benefit from the technology of the R series. It has the same VM50 UHD processor, SS upconversion processor, P3 processor and 6-core processor.

Edit: The P series also appears to have the same Pure Cinema processor for 24/48 fps content. Matt McRae did mention that the P series has 60% of the technology of the R series.

If the P series has half the performance that Vizio is boasting it has it should be a great TV.

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Perhaps I'm wrong but this is the first time I've heard of the 3P engine for the P series.


"Pure Pixel Processing: A collection of picture processing innovations removes unwanted artifacts and improves edge detection to deliver the ultimate clarity in every detail"

It wasn't one of the marketing buzz words used in CES P-Series online "brochure". The other noteworthy change being, of course, "up to 72 individual Active LED Zones".

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Wow, the P series looks interesting to me now. It has HDMI 2.0 120fps rate for gaming. Also, will have the new H.265 for 4k codec.

The P series is suppose to start at 50" for like $999?

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The P series is suppose to start at 50" for like $999?

Yep, with $400 more per every 5": 55" for $1400, 60" for $1800, 65" for $2200 and 70" for $2400.

Some of us have been waiting for them since their announcement in January at CES.

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Yep, with $400 more per every 5": 55" for $1400, 60" for $1800, 65" for $2200 and 70" for $2400.

Some of us have been waiting for them since their announcement in January at CES.
I've been keeping my eye out for them as well. Didn't know it was going to be equipped with HDMI 2.0, and H.265, and 120 fps for gaming though. That makes it much more interesting for me. It's going to be great for computers.

I'll probably go for the 50", should be a new computer monitor for me.

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I'll probably go for the 50", should be a new computer monitor for me.

I'm thinking 60". It will replace this 46" CCFL backlit LCD, which is my only monitor for this desktop. I sit in front of it using a wireless keyboard and mouse on a laptop cart.

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I was all ready to jump on a Samsung 508550. Im going to wait it out for the P series. I hope its at least as good as the 8550( Reallly hoping its better by a good margin) as far as picture quality.
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