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You would need to have 10bit content to take advantage of those colors. Since there isn't much if that, the expanded offering goes to "waste".

Then it is just another marketing ploy (more or less) just like Samsung started calling these "LED" TV's.



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Not really a marketing gimmick as there is content that takes advantage of it just not much of it. You'll see more 10bit content when 4k becomes more common I think. Also Vizio doesn't put it front and center no one would really know unless people at forums like these investigated the specs Vizio dosent promote these as 10bit panels outside of the spec listing color.

For LED ehhh it describes the backlight, but people aren't educated enough to know that LED=LCD most of the time.


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people aren't educated enough to know that LED=LCD most of the time.

Which is the fault of the CEA. Heaven forbid, there are educated consumers out there, they may see though more of the 'fast ones' these importers try to pull off.
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people aren't educated enough to know that LED=LCD most of the time.

Which is the fault of the CEA. Heaven forbid, there are educated consumers out there, they may see though more of the 'fast ones' these importers try to pull off.

It's not only importers but everyone doing it. Everyone has a term or marketing mumbojumbo to cloak what they really mean.


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2 vs 3 is panel "maker" I believe. The colors is not marketing the 60" is a 10bit panel and the 55/65 are 8bit.
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Anyone else chime in on this?

.Isn't that suppose to reduce the false contouring problem? I kinda doubt anyone could actually detect differences when the count is in the "billions".
General consensus is the B3 means it is a Sharp 10-bit panel. So the 60" and 70" are using Sharp's new 4K WCG with 14% more color gamut. Which can explain the color number difference. Also, it may be using an IGZO back plane which could account for the reduced Nits and power consumption.
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Where was the screen output stated between the two?

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Where was the screen output stated between the two?

If you are referring to Nits then those are listed in the manuals for each set.


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If you are referring to Nits then those are listed in the manuals for each set.

350 nits for the 42" and the 32" (2i-B1s), 400 nits for the 49", 55" and 65" (2i-B2s), 240 nits for the 60" and "70 (2i-B3s). See table on page numbered 63 in all manuals.

So, wider color gamut for the 60" and 70", but only 60% as bright as the 49", 55" and 65". I think that I prefer the brightness.
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350 nits for the 42" and the 32" (2i-B1s), 400 nits for the 49", 55" and 65" (2i-B2s), 240 nits for the 60" and "70 (2i-B3s). See table on page numbered 63 in all manuals.

So, wider color gamut for the 60" and 70", but only 60% as bright as the 49", 55" and 65". I think that I prefer the brightness.
I am getting confused on this point. The reference to the IGZO panel being thinner and such implies that this somehow mitigates the reduction in nits, which further implies that the nits measurement is not a real world measurement of brightness as viewed from a normal position, but perhaps a measurement of the light output before it travels "through the panel" (forgive my description, I am not familiar with the technical aspects).

Can someone clarify whether an increase in nits in the Vizio spec document inherently means a brighter picture as viewed from a normal position?
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Actually IGZO TFT displays supposedly require less light than a-Si TFT because transistors constructed of IGZO (Indium Gallium Zinc Oxide) are smaller, connected by thinner conductors, leaving the backplane more transparent for the same density of pixels.

If the measurement of nits if of LED brightness and not light emerging from the panel, then it's possible that 240 nits through an IGZO TFT backplane is equivalent to 400 nits through an a-Si TFT backplane.

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Actually IGZO TFT displays supposedly require less light than a-Si TFT because transistors constructed of IGZO (Indium Gallium Zinc Oxide) are smaller, connected by thinner conductors, leaving the backplane more transparent for the same density of pixels.

If the measurement of nits if of LED brightness and not light emerging from the panel, then it's possible that 240 nits through an IGZO TFT backplane is equivalent to 400 nits through an a-Si TFT backplane.
It would also seem to account for the 60" using 85W and the 55" using 142W. Less LEDs or maybe just dimmer lower power leds? Nothing has been confirmed though, but it seems like a good guess.
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It would also seem to account for the 60" using 85W and the 55" using 142W. Less LEDs or maybe just dimmer lower power leds? Nothing has been confirmed though, but it seems like a good guess.

I think it may be a misprint for the 55. Per the manual the 49, 55, and 65 use 54.92, 69.86 and 96.82 respectively. Of course the website itself shows differently it shows 131.8, 141.6 and 240.7. So there seems I be a misprint somewhere.

The 60/70 rate 85/99 in the manual and 85/99 on the website.



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Whether a LCD television is referred to as a LED or the technically correct LCD it's largely a matter a semantics. If one was to make a list of what folks needed to be educated on this would be dead last. As far as those evil importers it was probably a marketing term created by a domestic marketing agency.

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Just wished there was a screen size in between the gigantic 120 inch R and 65 inch R. I would love to have seen an 80 or 90 inch version. Otherwise I am waiting on the 70 inch P series to come through and dazzle us (hopefully) with its picture quality.
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So I went to Best Buy yesterday to see the 2014 M series for myself since my local Costco still doesn't have it in stock. I was pretty set on the m602, but after seeing it in person, I honestly think the 60'' is a bit small! The 65'' m652 looked perfect. It's odd that 5 inches makes such a big difference. Anyway, it was difficult to discern the picture quality since the demo playing on the Vizio TVs wasn't very good at all. Didn't even look like a 1080p source. All of the Samsung TVs had a great demo playing with high quality nature videos, etc. Vizio needs to get their marketing together if they want to sell more TVs. Based on the demo, I could barely see the difference between the E series and M series, though the M series just looked a little brighter. I guess I'll have to buy the TV to really see the PQ for myself. :P
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The E and M are very close in PQ terms once calibrated as stated by the reviews. It comes down to if that "extra" is worth the premium

I always recommend bringing in a USB stick with some good demo material (trailers, BR clips, etc) and playing that on the TV since the feeds are usually horrendous. You may also want to bring a remote programmed for the TV in case the store doesn't have one.


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Oh wow I didn't realize that the 65' e650 b2 is $400 cheaper than the 65'' m652 -- I'm unable to find the 2014 e650 online anywhere except on Vizio's site. I was hoping to order from Amazon due to their fast and great delivery. Is Vizio good to order from directly?

Damn Vizio charges $100 for delivery while Amazon has the m652 at $1500 with shipping (I have Prime). Really wish the e650 shows up on Amazon soon. With shipping that's now only $300 difference between the two

Doesn't look like Costco has it either :/

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Alright, I know this is probably a broken record at this point but I'm honestly torn between the two TVs. I'm constantly flip-flopping between the E550i-B2 and the M552i-B2. My main concern is video processing, which seems to be the only reason to go with the M-Series over the E-Series in the first place. My setup has everything running through a Denon receiver, and I don't want to constantly play around with my picture settings since I will never change inputs. My concern is highlighted by the CNET review, where the E-Series seems to actually have a higher motion resolution than the M-Series (unless you turn on the motion smoothing effects on, but I'm a little afraid of the "soap opera effect").

Plasma isn't really an option since I sit with a window directly behind me. And it's hard to get a gauge on the picture quality at Best Buy and Sam's Club with their in-store demos, though I was still impressed with both displays so I don't know.

Anyone have any opinions on the matter? Are the local dimming zones found in the M-Series worth it, because in reality that and the refresh rate (which doesn't seem to matter in my case) seems to be the only differences between the two panels? Can someone help break make sense of it all for me? I use to sell TVs for a living and I'm surprised I'm having such a hard time deciding between the two.
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At least double the native refresh rate (120Hz versus 60Hz), 2.66 times the number of dimming zones (32 versus 12), something called "Active Pixel Tuning" and superior build quality, all for $170 more in list price ($270 with Vizio's current sale on the E, $142 difference on Amazon right now, Prime shipping eligible). Personally I'd go for the M.
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At least double the native refresh rate (120Hz versus 60Hz), 2.66 times the number of dimming zones (32 versus 12), something called "Active Pixel Tuning" and superior build quality, all for $170 more in list price ($270 with Vizio's current sale on the E, $142 difference on Amazon right now, Prime shipping eligible). Personally I'd go for the M.
You're probably right. With my Best Buy Movers coupon and credit card rewards it'll cost me $600 out of pocket.

Alright I've decided! Thanks for your help!
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Other than actual light output (brightness) of the 55" vs the 60", does the 10bit panel really reduce false contouring which has been a huge problem with most sets. Most don't seem to understand what it is and how it detracts from the image.

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At least double the native refresh rate (120Hz versus 60Hz), 2.66 times the number of dimming zones (32 versus 12), something called "Active Pixel Tuning" and superior build quality, all for $170 more in list price ($270 with Vizio's current sale on the E, $142 difference on Amazon right now, Prime shipping eligible). Personally I'd go for the M.
Do you have the same recommendation in regards to the 65'' m625i vs e650i?

I got an e-mail notification of this post but you apparently deleted it; I'll answer it anyway . All the same differences are true, except that for some reason the 65" E-Series model only has 6 local dimming zones, so the 65" M has 5.33 times as many . Of course, the difference in list price is $400, a bit more substantial. I'd still go with the M; I'm not at all interested in a 6 LDZ FALD monitor.

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I got an e-mail notification of this post but you apparently deleted it; I'll answer it anyway . All the same differences are true, except that for some reason the 65" E-Series model only has 6 local dimming zones, so the 65" M has 5.33 times as many . Of course, the difference in list price is $400, a bit more substantial. I'd still go with the M; I'm not at all interested in a 6 LDZ FALD monitor.
Thank you I deleted my post after reading some bad reviews for the e650, like the TV dying after a couple weeks for a bunch of folks, so the better build quality of the M series makes it really worthwhile for me to spend the extra cash. I didn't even realize that the 65'' E series only has 6 LDZ. I assumed it was 16 like the 60''. Seems like the 65'' really isn't worth it at all.

Looks like I'll be ordering the 65'' M series off of Amazon very soon
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I think you may be seeing reviews for the 2013 model. The 2014 E65 hasn't been out for weeks


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I meant reviews for the 2014 E600i 60'' -- I imagine that the build quality for the two will be the same
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looks like the 70 e series should be available soon as well. it sucks its taking vizio so long to release things.
heres b&h photos listing of it that just appeared.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ray_1080p.html
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B&H is notorious for putting placeholders weeks and sometimes months before they arrive i wouldn't be surprised if we see it soon though.


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Just wished there was a screen size in between the gigantic 120 inch R and 65 inch R. I would love to have seen an 80 or 90 inch version. Otherwise I am waiting on the 70 inch P series to come through and dazzle us (hopefully) with its picture quality.
Agree 100%. That's such a huge gap in sizes. 120 is too big for my setup and 65 is too small of a compromise. I hope this line of tv hangs in my living room someday if it lives up to price/peformance potential. I have a 2013 80" M series right now. Maybe next model year they will add more sizes and hopefully passive 3D back in.
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You're probably right. With my Best Buy Movers coupon and credit card rewards it'll cost me $600 out of pocket.
I thought someone said that despite there being a picture of a TV on the BB Movers coupon, TVs were excluded in the fine print.
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