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I provided an impression (one data point) about one sale price on one specific model and never made an assumption about sales at other stores - only mine as clearly stated. You made some implications and assertions that were stated as facts that you can't seem to provide even one data point for and then have tried to respond to me in a way that puts words in my mouth. You are the one doing the name calling and making the assumptions about where I choose to post. Unbelievable
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That was hardly a data point and no more specific than what was provided to you. If you had read the thread you too would know the posts he just told you are there.
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Bah I forgot my rule... I apologize to those of the thread for derailing it.


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Take a look in the M series owned thread I think I've seen this posted there before. I think one of the tests people did was turning off the internet/wifi to see if that makes a difference.


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hmm, after trying both with wifi connected and disabled, I still experience the issue
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That was hardly a data point and no more specific than what was provided to you. If you had read the thread you too would know the posts he just told you are there.
I have read the thread and when that model first got released in that size and had the special sale it did seem to be in short supply at some peoples places last year. However, as you should know if you followed what he started claiming, he is saying there's places now that are still having a hard time keeping them (the 70 inch) in stock, implying they are still flying off the shelves in these 'other' places. The place my experience was coming from was a San Diego Costco (as I frequently comment on) and its natural for me to ask where any of these places he's talking about today exist without some vague reference to historical posts to sales last year at initial production releases. Just providing any real information that supports the statement spoken as fact about it being out of stock at all these places was a natural request to such a skewed response with his big claims to my singular observation. Could my Costco be selling 100 million of them between my visits? Sure, possible, but not the impression I'm getting. If I said my Costco couldn't keep them on the shelves, I'd be able to point to it being out of stock or some very recent posts saying as much as actual evidence before just pulling stuff out of my ass as well.
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Here's another data point

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I have read the thread and when that model first got released in that size and had the special sale it did seem to be in short supply at some peoples places last year. However, as you should know if you followed what he started claiming, he is saying there's places now that are still having a hard time keeping them (the 70 inch) in stock, implying they are still flying off the shelves in these 'other' places. The place my experience was coming from was a San Diego Costco (as I frequently comment on) and its natural for me to ask where any of these places he's talking about today exist without some vague reference to historical posts to sales last year at initial production releases. Just providing any real information that supports the statement spoken as fact about it being out of stock at all these places was a natural request to such a skewed response with his big claims to my singular observation. Could my Costco be selling 100 million of them between my visits? Sure, possible, but not the impression I'm getting. If I said my Costco couldn't keep them on the shelves, I'd be able to point to it being out of stock or some very recent posts saying as much as actual evidence before just pulling stuff out of my ass as well.
In my local costco north of Pittsburgh today, I saw 1 on display and two in stock. The demo pictures grabbed my attention, and I came here to find out if there's enough content out there to justify moving up from a 2 year old 60" panny plasma. They didn't have it hooked up to any other signal, I'd like to see what it does with 1080p / 720p content. If they're sold out by the time I get my research done, nice to know I can pick one up in SD. Maybe they don't sell well there cause you can just look out your windows and see beautiful scenes

They also had the Samsung UN65HU7200 for almost a couple of hundred more, but not sure if the curved screen is for me (can't watch 3D because of motion sickness)

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In my local costco north of Pittsburgh today, I saw 1 on display and two in stock. The demo pictures grabbed my attention, and I came here to find out if there's enough content out there to justify moving up from a 2 year old 60" panny plasma. They didn't have it hooked up to any other signal, I'd like to see what it does with 1080p / 720p content. If they're sold out by the time I get my research done, nice to know I can pick one up in SD. Maybe they don't sell well there cause you can just look out your windows and see beautiful scenes

They also had the Samsung UN65HU7200 for almost a couple of hundred more, but not sure if the curved screen is for me (can't watch 3D because of motion sickness)

This isn't the thread for that you'll need to go to the P series owners thread. Right now 4k content is really limited to streaming and test clips. We should start to see much more at the end of the year if UHDBR gets released on time. I haven't had any issues with cable content, blu-rays or 720p/1080p rips


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I certainly could replace my Mits rear projection set but am really torn to pull the trigger on this or wait for the R. Question is will we see the R in the next 6 months or so?
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I certainly could replace my Mits rear projection set but am really torn to pull the trigger on this or wait for the R. Question is will we see the R in the next 6 months or so?
I would say go with the 70 inch p series
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I would say go with the 70 inch p series
Is that because you don't believe the R will materialize or that it doesn't offer enough to warrant the wait? Because I don't mind waiting a bit more, but would like to do something in the next 6 months or so.
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Is that because you don't believe the R will materialize or that it doesn't offer enough to warrant the wait? Because I don't mind waiting a bit more, but would like to do something in the next 6 months or so.

From a recent member post it is just a timing thing. It may get released in the next 6 months, but it is an unknown of how much of an upgrade it will be. In 6 months a lot of things can change and we'll be much closer to the release of other manufacturers 2015 sets as well as have some in owners hands. If you can wait I would, we are in a transition phase right now as far as TV tech goes.


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From a recent member post it is just a timing thing. It may get released in the next 6 months, but it is an unknown of how much of an upgrade it will be. In 6 months a lot of things can change and we'll be much closer to the release of other manufacturers 2015 sets as well as have some in owners hands. If you can wait I would, we are in a transition phase right now as far as TV tech goes.
I think you would agree that every Vizio that Costco or other outlets have in stock are 2014 models, and are probably not being manufactured anymore. It's possible that some of the 2015 models are already in production, but Vizio hasn't announced anything for 2015 yet; was not at CES, and may be waiting - just speculating - until after the Super Bowl to say anything. Inventories should be getting a bit low - I would imagine.

As to whether the "R" series will be an upgrade . . the one stat that really stands out is the 384 active dimming zones. The Sharp Elites had around 210 zones, and that picture was the highest rated on the planet in 2012 ( according to CNET, Sound & Vision, etc. ) - even beating out any and all plasma's that year. Then they stopped making them - which was a bummer - although they were very pricey - certainly not in my budget. So here's where I'm hoping that the "R" series will bring that kind of performance at a reasonable price. That's been Vizio's M.O. for the last couple of years, and on paper the "R" looks like it could be the PQ king. I know that OLED is the future, but until I can buy a 70" OLED at under $2K, LED backlit LCD tech is getting my $'s.
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I think you would agree that every Vizio that Costco or other outlets have in stock are 2014 models, and are probably not being manufactured anymore. It's possible that some of the 2015 models are already in production, but Vizio hasn't announced anything for 2015 yet; was not at CES, and may be waiting - just speculating - until after the Super Bowl to say anything. Inventories should be getting a bit low - I would imagine.

As to whether the "R" series will be an upgrade . . the one stat that really stands out is the 384 active dimming zones. The Sharp Elites had around 210 zones, and that picture was the highest rated on the planet in 2012 ( according to CNET, Sound & Vision, etc. ) - even beating out any and all plasma's that year. Then they stopped making them - which was a bummer - although they were very pricey - certainly not in my budget. So here's where I'm hoping that the "R" series will bring that kind of performance at a reasonable price. That's been Vizio's M.O. for the last couple of years, and on paper the "R" looks like it could be the PQ king. I know that OLED is the future, but until I can buy a 70" OLED at under $2K, LED backlit LCD tech is getting my $'s.
OLED is dead. Most are going with nano tech includes Samsung.
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OLED is dead. Most are going with nano tech includes Samsung.
Yep, I read about that. One of the big stories to come out of CES. We'll see how well it performs with the AV reviewers. Looks very promising.
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Exclamation Dedicated thread for victims of 1.60 firmware for 2014 & 2013 m series owners

IF YOU ARE AN OWNER OF A 2014 "M" SERIES TV AND RECEIVED THE 1.60 FIRMWARE UPDATE; AND ARE EXPERIENCING ISSUES WITH LOCAL DIMMING PERFORMANCE AND OTHER ANOMALIES, THERE IS NOW A NEW DEDICATED THREAD.

Vizio 1.60 defective firmware update -- victims post here

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I think you would agree that every Vizio that Costco or other outlets have in stock are 2014 models, and are probably not being manufactured anymore. It's possible that some of the 2015 models are already in production, but Vizio hasn't announced anything for 2015 yet; was not at CES, and may be waiting - just speculating - until after the Super Bowl to say anything. Inventories should be getting a bit low - I would imagine.

As to whether the "R" series will be an upgrade . . the one stat that really stands out is the 384 active dimming zones. The Sharp Elites had around 210 zones, and that picture was the highest rated on the planet in 2012 ( according to CNET, Sound & Vision, etc. ) - even beating out any and all plasma's that year. Then they stopped making them - which was a bummer - although they were very pricey - certainly not in my budget. So here's where I'm hoping that the "R" series will bring that kind of performance at a reasonable price. That's been Vizio's M.O. for the last couple of years, and on paper the "R" looks like it could be the PQ king. I know that OLED is the future, but until I can buy a 70" OLED at under $2K, LED backlit LCD tech is getting my $'s.
I'm pretty sure the 2014 P series is still in production and will be for some time, they didn't come out until last September and it's likely the 2015 models will come out out this September if Vizio follows past trends. Again, following past trends, the 2015 M series will come out in late May. The 2014 E series is likely no longer in production as the they came out this time last year.

As for the R series, Vizio may have been derailed by the other manufacturers with standards for HDR not going in the direction of Dolby Vision. I'm not sure what the future holds for the R series but hopefully its 384 zones show up somewhere.

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