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Sounds like you should at least let them know about it while it's under warranty.
Try the Dynamic calibration and change the backlight minimum
to something higher -- someone else just reported that same problem.

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Sounds like you should at least let them know about it while it's under warranty.
It is only exactly 60 days old. It has to be a power supply or soemthing as it is just overly dark no matter what I do with any darker scenes. The only other thing that comes to mind is a black level rise issue but I have seen none related to this model (like Panny had but much quicker and more drastic).
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Sounds like you should at least let them know about it while it's under warranty.
Try the Dynamic calibration and change the backlight minimum
to something higher -- someone else just reported that same problem.

Sharp UQ17U Calibrations
I did. Something is wrong so I will have it replaced or repaired. Someone else reporting this makes me wonder.....
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Over at the calibration site -- someone just got a new one and was disappointed with the
extreme clouding/flashlighting with the sensor off and too dark with it on.
I went through the troubleshooting and suggested turning up the minimum.
I'll let him know you had a problem, too...
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How come there's ZERO discussion of the Sharp LC-70UD27 here?

Will it even show up in this thread? I've auditioned the Q's but to me they were just decent looking budget 1080P panels = affordable HT size PQ but compared to 2160P panels (certainly costing much more) there was no comparison - you can't feed 2160P to these Q's and have then = PQ of a 4K UHD TV. Every review I've seen has stated this.

I'm not anti-Sharp at all because I owned Sharp's when my 32" was $2K, 45" was $3800, and 57" monster was $6500 on a half off sale. Outside of Elite Sharp rarely gets respect on this forum but there are things I miss on my 57" that my Samsung's cannot match. It is good to see a lot of + feedback from Q owners though black levels can never match an OLED but the price to PQ differential is vast as the blacks.

The matte screen had no reflections and it gave a more peering into a window effect than my Ultra Clear Panel. My 57" was a massive beast and had lots of wow factor and made my 60" Samsung feel smaller though the math made no sense - the Sharp felt larger.

One thing I don't miss and hated on the Sharps was OPC but it took ten seconds to turn it off, annoying as hell random light fluctuations.

The new 70UD27 will have a semi matte panel, confirmed to me by SharpUSA - they stated Sharp produces no Glossy Panels. This model will be fully compliant with 4K standards unlike last years and the price has dropped significantly from a year ago.

Though I currently don't own Sharps every one I bought is still operating without a hiccup today with relatives I passed them onto. Zero service calls on any and zero failures. Seriously considering the 70UD27 but zero feedback/reviews makes it tough.

For the price of a Sony 65X950B I can buy the Sharp 70" UHD for the living room and almost budget the LG OLED 55" for another room.

Hopefully someone will get a peek and post thoughts on the 70UD27 soon.

Samsung 65F8000, 60D8000, 40HU6350, Panasonic 50E60 LCD's

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Is the UD in the stores yet? I haven't seen it or any reviews of it.
As for OPC, I would say that the latest iteration of it is lightyears (no pun)
ahead of the version of a couple years ago. Light changes are not reactive,
but proactive -- the picture goes through analysis and adjustment on the fly
so subtly that it's barely noticeable and only rarely at that.
I'm interested in the Spectros color on the new sets, but I'm afraid it's just
more of that horrible blue LED with some variation of the yellow phosphor.
The Q+ sets have a better color in red and green than previous Quattrons,
but the blue is exactly the same -- as with every panel on the wall of big box
stores. I'm hoping for a breakthrough UltraViolet LED that will illuminate all
3 (or 4!) colors in phosphor or Quantum Dots. As it is, the blue stands out
like a gangrenous thumb. Otherwise, I love the UQ17U in the 70" size and
would not trade away its contrast, brightness, and motion handling for the
4K, which would be a waste at my viewing distance. Maybe some day...
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Is the UD in the stores yet? I haven't seen it or any reviews of it.
As for OPC, I would say that the latest iteration of it is lightyears (no pun)
ahead of the version of a couple years ago. Light changes are not reactive,
but proactive -- the picture goes through analysis and adjustment on the fly
so subtly that it's barely noticeable and only rarely at that.
I'm interested in the Spectros color on the new sets, but I'm afraid it's just
more of that horrible blue LED with some variation of the yellow phosphor.
The Q+ sets have a better color in red and green than previous Quattrons,
but the blue is exactly the same -- as with every panel on the wall of big box
stores. I'm hoping for a breakthrough UltraViolet LED that will illuminate all
3 (or 4!) colors in phosphor or Quantum Dots. As it is, the blue stands out
like a gangrenous thumb. Otherwise, I love the UQ17U in the 70" size and
would not trade away its contrast, brightness, and motion handling for the
4K, which would be a waste at my viewing distance. Maybe some day...
Hello,
I'm supposed to go to my A/V store this weekend and get my new 70" UQ17U set. I want this set but my salesman is trying to steer me towards the Sony or Samsung. He says it has better motion handling. That is a big deal for me due to how much sports I watch. Is there any truth to that statement?
I'm putting down money on something this weekend.
Thank you

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Hello,
I'm supposed to go to my A/V store this weekend and get my new 70" UQ17U set. I want this set but my salesman is trying to steer me towards the Sony or Samsung. He says it has better motion handling. That is a big deal for me due to how much sports I watch. Is there any truth to that statement?
I'm putting down money on something this weekend.
Thank you
I have a 70" SQ and watch a ton of sports and I love the picture. Just need to dial in the right settings. Everyone who sees my TV with a game on comments on how great it looks. Just my opinion. Hopefully other sports enthusiasts will give some feedback too.
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Hello,
I'm supposed to go to my A/V store this weekend and get my new 70" UQ17U set. I want this set but my salesman is trying to steer me towards the Sony or Samsung. He says it has better motion handling. That is a big deal for me due to how much sports I watch. Is there any truth to that statement?
I'm putting down money on something this weekend.
Thank you
Just be sure the salesman isn't working for the profit motive.
The UQ17U is a great set and the motion handling is very good.
The level of detail is better on the UQ because it upscales to 2K,
which doubles the HD resolution. I can definitely see the difference.
Be sure to calibrate it once you get it -- I have a killer Dynamic
setting you can use...
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Just be sure the salesman isn't working for the profit motive.
The UQ17U is a great set and the motion handling is very good.
The level of detail is better on the UQ because it upscales to 2K,
which doubles the HD resolution. I can definitely see the difference.
Be sure to calibrate it once you get it -- I have a killer Dynamic
setting you can use...
He seems like a good guy but you never know. The A/V store does not carry the Sharp Line. He said he would have to call his distributor to get one. I'm wondering if I should just go to BB and get it. I have already lined up a calibrator who covers the Tampa area. I will use your settings first before setting up that appointment though. Thank you,
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BestBuy might have a slightly different number -- TQ instead of UQ?
I think it's still considered the top of the line in non-4K sets.


One guy who uses my settings likes the USER for sports and DYNAMIC
for everything else, so you can have your pick.
A professional calibrator can set up your MOVIE setting by the book.
I would avoid the THX MOVIE setting, though, because it disables the backlight control.
Several reviewers have mentioned that and it messes up the nice black level in dark scenes.
Regular MOVIE setting would be the one a professional would want to use anyhow.
If you need the link:

Sharp UQ17U Calibrations

Good luck and let us know what you end up with!
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BestBuy might have a slightly different number -- TQ instead of UQ?
I think it's still considered the top of the line in non-4K sets.


One guy who uses my settings likes the USER for sports and DYNAMIC
for everything else, so you can have your pick.
A professional calibrator can set up your MOVIE setting by the book.
I would avoid the THX MOVIE setting, though, because it disables the backlight control.
Several reviewers have mentioned that and it messes up the nice black level in dark scenes.
Regular MOVIE setting would be the one a professional would want to use anyhow.
If you need the link:

Sharp UQ17U Calibrations

Good luck and let us know what you end up with!
Will do....thanks !!
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BestBuy might have a slightly different number -- TQ instead of UQ?
I think it's still considered the top of the line in non-4K sets.


One guy who uses my settings likes the USER for sports and DYNAMIC
for everything else, so you can have your pick.
A professional calibrator can set up your MOVIE setting by the book.
I would avoid the THX MOVIE setting, though, because it disables the backlight control.
Several reviewers have mentioned that and it messes up the nice black level in dark scenes.
Regular MOVIE setting would be the one a professional would want to use anyhow.
If you need the link:

Sharp UQ17U Calibrations

Good luck and let us know what you end up with!>>>>


TQ is the same as the SQ .Exception is It adds a built in subwoofer and a different frame bezel... It is a Best Buy exclusive and IMO not worth the xtra money over the SQ... UQ adds more contrast than both SQ and TQ
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Cnet review

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BestBuy might have a slightly different number -- TQ instead of UQ?
I think it's still considered the top of the line in non-4K sets.


One guy who uses my settings likes the USER for sports and DYNAMIC
for everything else, so you can have your pick.
A professional calibrator can set up your MOVIE setting by the book.
I would avoid the THX MOVIE setting, though, because it disables the backlight control.
Several reviewers have mentioned that and it messes up the nice black level in dark scenes.
Regular MOVIE setting would be the one a professional would want to use anyhow.
If you need the link:

Sharp UQ17U Calibrations

Good luck and let us know what you end up with!>>>>


TQ is the same as the SQ .Exception is It adds a built in subwoofer and a different frame bezel... It is a Best Buy exclusive and IMO not worth the xtra money over the SQ... UQ adds more contrast than both SQ and TQ
Hello,
Stumbled across a review from Cnet....not a very glowing review. I also noticed an interesting paragraph that I did not understand. Can someone help out on what they are referring too. See attached below.
Thank you,

I found setting up the set-top box control wasn't all that straightforward. Initially the wizard tells you to connect a video cable (HDMI) but unless you connect an IR blaster, there is no way to control the set-top box. Without a blaster, the television still displays listings, but clicking on a show won't play it. Though it isn't mentioned anywhere in the documentation or the setup, you can request a free IR blaster from Sharp directly as there isn't one included in the box.
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CNET doesn't like the Quattron system and is usually negative towards Sharp.
I posted a very recent glowing review of the 80" UQ not too many days ago:

http://pocinc.net/blog/product-revie...-tv-lc-80uq17u

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TQ is the same as the SQ .Exception is It adds a built in subwoofer and a different frame bezel... It is a Best Buy exclusive and IMO not worth the xtra money over the SQ... UQ adds more contrast than both SQ and TQ
How much better us the UQ over the SQ?

I never thought it would be so difficult to pick out a TV-lol
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The UQ is THX certified, but that requires turning off the light sensor control of the backlight,
so I have never tried to watch anything with that setting.
It's also advertised as having a 'contrast engine' that analyzes input before displaying it and
maximizing the contrast with pixel by pixel control, plus the backlight control. Or so they claim.
I don't think you will find anyone who owns both, so it's really hard to judge.
I think the UQ is very good, but I'm not sure how much better than the others.
Its contrast ratio is 10 million to one, too, which is more than is claimed by the others. It might also have better reds and greens...
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Anyone having LC-80UQ10 connected to HTPC and using 4K (2160p) resolution? I have Radeon R280X graphic card connected to TV via HDMI, but maximal resolution in Catalyst is 1920x1080... What am I doing wrong?
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Any UQ owners seeing banding on your sets? I was watching premier league football over the weekend and noticed a column of dark shadow running down the middle when the camera panned left or right. It is minor, and I've only seen it on sports (so far), but if it's not supposed to be there, I might have to consider an exchange. Checking for it on movies next.
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Nothing like that on mine. I wonder if it's in the motion control somehow?
Have you tried different settings on the motion and film modes, just to troubleshoot?
You should let Aquos Advantage know right away to make a case file...
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Anyone having LC-80UQ10 connected to HTPC and using 4K (2160p) resolution? I have Radeon R280X graphic card connected to TV via HDMI, but maximal resolution in Catalyst is 1920x1080... What am I doing wrong?
Only one HDMI works with 4K and only at 30 FPS, I think.
Is your model UQ17U? Wondering if that's a typo...
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johnfull: Sure, I know about it, 30 FPS is ok for movies, but there is no 2160p option in Windows resolution settings, maximal is 1920x1080. My model is LC-80UQ10E (80" pseudo 4K panel).
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johnfull: Sure, I know about it, 30 FPS is ok for movies, but there is no 2160p option in Windows resolution settings, maximal is 1920x1080. My model is LC-80UQ10E (80" pseudo 4K panel).
Ok. I'm not familiar with that variation. Mine's UQ17U.
Sounds like it's more an issue with your Radeon than with the TV.
My Radeon freezes up when I try to play 4K content on the computer.
Maybe someone else can be more helpful. Sorry!
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Any UQ owners seeing banding on your sets? I was watching premier league football over the weekend and noticed a column of dark shadow running down the middle when the camera panned left or right. It is minor, and I've only seen it on sports (so far), but if it's not supposed to be there, I might have to consider an exchange. Checking for it on movies next.
I now have banding and flashlighting and DSE. The light output is at least 50% dropped with black levels hugely taking a hit and dark level detail. I have a service ticket in for Friday. The backlight has to be turned way up to get any ligt output and that resuts in the aformentioned issues. I am unable to watch anything with dark backgrounds.

Does anyone know what I would do if the claim nothing is wrong with the set? The reason I ask is that sharp says they will evaulate the set as the cord sparked on me plugging it in and it became a "safety issue". They say the service call is to evaluate the tv and then maybe turn that into a service call. I can not deal with the tv this way with severe loss of black level detail and light output. Maybe the "contrast engine" is shot. Not sure what recourse I will have if they claim the tv is fine. When the light sensor is put on it is dark as heck. I have the range turned up too. Now it is in Johnfall's dynamic mode (well it is off now due to safety issue) but as of the other day it is still a bad picture with no detail in dark scenes and low light output. It was beautiful for the first six weeks of use. It staying this way is not an option. Difference between a excellent tv and a less than 3rd market tv. Can I demand a returnfrom Sharp as the Vendor is out of it as it is more than 30 days?
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I now have banding and flashlighting and DSE. The light output is at least 50% dropped with black levels hugely taking a hit and dark level detail. I have a service ticket in for Friday. The backlight has to be turned way up to get any ligt output and that resuts in the aformentioned issues. I am unable to watch anything with dark backgrounds.

Does anyone know what I would do if the claim nothing is wrong with the set? The reason I ask is that sharp says they will evaulate the set as the cord sparked on me plugging it in and it became a "safety issue". They say the service call is to evaluate the tv and then maybe turn that into a service call. I can not deal with the tv this way with severe loss of black level detail and light output. Maybe the "contrast engine" is shot. Not sure what recourse I will have if they claim the tv is fine. When the light sensor is put on it is dark as heck. I have the range turned up too. Now it is in Johnfall's dynamic mode (well it is off now due to safety issue) but as of the other day it is still a bad picture with no detail in dark scenes and low light output. It was beautiful for the first six weeks of use. It staying this way is not an option. Difference between a excellent tv and a less than 3rd market tv. Can I demand a returnfrom Sharp as the Vendor is out of it as it is more than 30 days?
You should get an exchange and it sounds like the second or even
the third case of darkening that I've read this week -- here and in
the calibration page. I hope they figure out the problem and give
us all the heads-up and maybe a recall notice. Keep us posted!
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Nothing like that on mine. I wonder if it's in the motion control somehow?
Have you tried different settings on the motion and film modes, just to troubleshoot?
You should let Aquos Advantage know right away to make a case file...
I'm pretty sure I tried the different motion settings, but not film yet. I have a match on the dvr still so I will try all settings. I've only noticed it on soccer matches (which have pretty much constant panning) from NBCSN, though I haven't really tried other sporting events or channels - just got it two weeks ago. I'll try to isolate the issue more, and start an Aquos Advantage ticket. Thanks for the tips.
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Brightness is controlled in several areas, aside from the others mentioned have you tried adjusting Gamma? Moving it changes brightness also. I have not seen the issue you are seeing, my set was purchased last spring, fingers crossed though ...

Best of luck
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Brightness is controlled in several areas, aside from the others mentioned have you tried adjusting Gamma? Moving it changes brightness also. I have not seen the issue you are seeing, my set was purchased last spring, fingers crossed though ...

Yes. I have tried everything from different outlets, settings, and changing power cords to other components. It resides in the tv and is pretty drastic. With the backlight at +16 and in Dynamic with Johnfalls settings it still is not as bright as it was before the issue started a few weeks ago on -6 with the same settings. No matter where the backlight is set dark level detail is completely gone. The set is defective. I have repair scheduled tomorrow afternoon. I am definitely pushing for a replacement.
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