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post #31 of 42 Old 01-12-2014, 04:48 PM
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People seem to not be grasping this, but Vizio's plan is to knock Toshiba, Panasonic, Sharp and Sony all out of the U.S. TV market. That's absolutely what they are trying to do. None of those 4 are especially secure right now, given limited success, lack of profits, corporate restructuring or some combination of the above.

More power to them. But I won't get excited until it's real. Fortunately I don't hold a grudge but I own a Vizio set now that is the worst flat-panel I have ever owned and the only one I regret purchasing. It's a 2012 model. Here's to hoping both the quality and prices become reality...

 

Well the very worst thing that could happen to quality in any industry is for the competition to dry up.


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I'm not saying Vizio is going to completely succeed, I'm saying it's their plan.

That said, I don't see why Toshiba, Panasonic, Sharp or Sony is making TVs (none make any money doing it), and expect all to be gone from TV making by decade's end at the latest. Of course, I expect Hisense, TCL and others to take their place.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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I think Im gonna add the Aquos Q 70" to my interested list. Im not convinced Im getting into 4K this year, or that its a smart move at this point. 70" would be a nice upgrade and the price is gonna be pretty good IMO.

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I wonder if Sharp fixed their motion processing for this year.

I really wanted to buy a cheap 70" I saw last week but knew it would still have the issue with not being able to disable motion smoothing on any AV mode outside of "Game" mode on a 1080p/60fps source. :/ (Turning "Film" and "Motion Enhancement" off does nothing for this problem and has been a bug in the Sharp TV firmware across all their models for a couple of years now.)

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Sodaboy, Im not familiar with Sharp can you explain? Are you saying you cant turn off motion interpolation?

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Sodaboy, Im not familiar with Sharp can you explain? Are you saying you cant turn off motion interpolation?
If you've got a 720p/60fps or 1080p/60fps source being input (read: video game console or HTPC), motion interpolation cannot be completely turned off unless you change the AV mode to "Game". Was like that on all the Sharps in 2012 and 2013.

If you're watching BluRays or DVDs, generally those are fed into the Sharp at 24fps and don't exhibit this behavior. Also, you won't have an issue with 1080i sources, but 720p OTA HDTV and game consoles will experience this issue on Sharp TVs. (Don't know about the 2014 models, though.)

Also, Sharp needs to work on their input lag for "Game" mode as well. Almost 60ms of delay is not really acceptable... The old 2011 and older models were much faster.
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Thats odd.

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Was in Best Buy yesterday evening and they had just finished setting up the 70" Sharp 4K.

It was not as impressive as the Sony and Samsung 4K panels on display, but they had just finished getting it up and running, so I'll stop by next time I am in the area to see if they have improved the PQ...

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p.s. $5000 for the 70" 4K at BB...
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Was in Best Buy yesterday evening and they had just finished setting up the 70" Sharp 4K.

It was not as impressive as the Sony and Samsung 4K panels on display, but they had just finished getting it up and running, so I'll stop by next time I am in the area to see if they have improved the PQ...

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p.s. $5000 for the 70" 4K at BB...

Was that the LC-70UD1U? Looked on BB website and that's the only 4k model listed. If so, that's last year's model, not the 2014 one.
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Was that the LC-70UD1U? Looked on BB website and that's the only 4k model listed. If so, that's last year's model, not the 2014 one.

Didn't realize Sharp had a 70" 4K model last year. They said that they had just gotten it in and that that it was new, so I just assumed it was the newly-announced Sharp model. They said it cost $5K and I see that Best Buy online has the LC-70UD1U for $5K, so that is probably what it was: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_dynSessConf=-2645453308652967207&id=pcat17071&type=page&st=LC-70UD1U&sc=Global&cp=1&nrp=15&sp=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&fs=saas&usc=All+Categories&keys=keys&ks=960&saas=saas

The online add indicates that the LC-70UD1U is only at Magnolia, so maybe they are moving the 2013 model from Magnolia to Best Buy to make room for the 2014 models in Magnolia.

Since the 'Sharp AQUOS 4K Ultra HD Series - UD Line' was announced with an MSRP of $6000 for the 70" panel, that is probably not what I saw...

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Didn't realize Sharp had a 70" 4K model last year. They said that they had just gotten it in and that that it was new, so I just assumed it was the newly-announced Sharp model. They said it cost $5K and I see that Best Buy online has the LC-70UD1U for $5K, so that is probably what it was: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_dynSessConf=-2645453308652967207&id=pcat17071&type=page&st=LC-70UD1U&sc=Global&cp=1&nrp=15&sp=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&fs=saas&usc=All+Categories&keys=keys&ks=960&saas=saas

The online add indicates that the LC-70UD1U is only at Magnolia, so maybe they are moving the 2013 model from Magnolia to Best Buy to make room for the 2014 models in Magnolia.

Since the 'Sharp AQUOS 4K Ultra HD Series - UD Line' was announced with an MSRP of $6000 for the 70" panel, that is probably not what I saw...

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No worries. I was just surprised that they would have put out the 2014 model so quickly. Now it makes sense. Hey who knows, maybe this year's model will blow us away (yeah I know, one can dream...)
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I wonder if Sharp fixed their motion processing for this year.

I really wanted to buy a cheap 70" I saw last week but knew it would still have the issue with not being able to disable motion smoothing on any AV mode outside of "Game" mode on a 1080p/60fps source. :/ (Turning "Film" and "Motion Enhancement" off does nothing for this problem and has been a bug in the Sharp TV firmware across all their models for a couple of years now.)

This is the issue I am having.....

I was hoping someone here could explain or help me with my tv. I have the LC-70UD1U, had it about a month. Great picture, but I have this nagging issue from the "soap opera effect.

To turn this feature off I go to the TV settings and change the motion enhancement to OFF and Film Mode to OFF. Then I can watch the TV without the "soap opera effect". But once the TV is turned off and turned back on the "soap opera effect" comes back on. When I go to the TV settings again the motion enhancement and film mode is off but the picture still shows the "soap opera effect". To turn that back off I have to change the motion enhancement and film mode back to ON then OFF then I can watch the TV without the "soap opera effect". Again only when I turn off and on the TV that effect comes back on even though the settings says its OFF. Hope this makes sense.

What the sharp tech person and myself did was do a soft reset (go into settings and doing a reset), also doing a hard reset (unplug TV hold input and volume button while plugging the TV back in. Then onscreen doing a INIT reset. Also we made sure on the EZ setup the TV location was set to HOME not Store.

So the person from Sharp said a tech needs to come onsite and do a repair.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advanced
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