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Its a bump. Fafrd , what is your best estimate for Vizio to announce P series info? A large contingent of buyers out here are very interested. Again , thanks for this thread, (I check it daily, therefore the bump).
I don't have any specific information, but based on some of tidbits we've all been hearing, best guess is that the first one or two sizes of the P Series will hopefully materialize in August.
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Its a bump for this info laden thread.
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Not much has happened over the past month on the than the continued slide in the pricing of the Samsung flagships.


You can now find the Samsung UN65HU8550 for $2430, a price that is only 10% higher than the published MSRP for the 65" Vizio P Series.


And the curved Samsung UN65HU9000 can be found for $3040, 25% more than the flat UN65HU8550.
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Some more drift lower in 65" 4K LED/LCD Flagship pricing by Samsung and others including Sharp and Sony.


Pretty clear that the price for 65" 4K LED/LCD Flagship has settled in at $3000-4000. The only exception is the Sony 65X950B with a street price of $6K.


Most 65" 4K LED/LCD Flagships including Samsung are now priced at $3K and sub-flagships in the 65" 4K LED/LCD class are being priced in the $2000-3000 range.


In addition to the Sony 65X950B at $6K and the Panasonic AX900 and Vizio Reference, both of which have not been priced yet, the only other exception is the LG 65EC9700 4K WOLED, which has had an MSRP of $10,000 announced in the UK.
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Samsung Flagship UN65HU9000 now available below $3000 and Sony Flagship 65X95B approaching $6000.
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Another $100 drop on the Samsung and Sony 65" Flagships since the last time I checked (updated in lead post).
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More small price drops across the board.


The Sony 65X950B can now be found for under $6000


More importantly, first street pricing for the LG 65EC9700 WOLED has just materialized (lower than many had expected at $7000): http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._smart_3d.html
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More small price drops across the board.


The Sony 65X950B can now be found for under $6000


More importantly, first street pricing for the LG 65EC9700 WOLED has just materialized (lower than many had expected at $7000): http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._smart_3d.html
Wow, that is lower than expected, that really messed up my plans to by the 55ec9300, might as well save up a bit more and get the 6ec9700.

BTW the 55ec9300 street is lower than the $5000 you have on the first page, link below, but Cleveland Plasma mentioned that it will sell for even lower than that http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-55-cl...20tv&cp=1&lp=2
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Wow, that is lower than expected, that really messed up my plans to by the 55ec9300, might as well save up a bit more and get the 6ec9700.

BTW the 55ec9300 street is lower than the $5000 you have on the first page, link below, but Cleveland Plasma mentioned that it will sell for even lower than that http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-55-cl...20tv&cp=1&lp=2

Thanks - updated.


I know Cleveland Plasma indicated it will be available for even less but have not seen anything posted yet - please let me know when you see a lower price.


10" of screen cost no more than $1000 in the LED/LCD world (until you get above 65"), so even if this is doubled for WOLED, street pricing of the 65EC9700 should generally be no more than $2000 higher than that of the 55EC9300.


Between the 4K versus 1080p and lower availability of the 65", it may be as much as $3000 for a while, but by year-end I doubt the 65EC9700 will command more that $2000 beyond the 55EC9300.
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More drops in street prices of the Sony and Samsung Flagships.


The most expensive 65" Samsung (UN65HU9000) can now be found widely for under $3000 and the Sony 65X950B can be more and more easily found for just under $6000...


Also, Vizio just did a full refresh of their website so the P Series should start emerging soon and the chances of the R Series actually materializing look a bit better: www.vizio.com
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wow these prices are dropping like crazy im definitely waiting a bit longer.
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wow these prices are dropping like crazy im definitely waiting a bit longer.

Pretty amazing, isn't it!


The Samsung UN658550 'flat flagship' now has a street price that is identical to the announced MSRP of the flat Vizio 65" P Series - who ever could have believed that would be possible in the weeks following CES???


Sony and Panasonic are in la-la land.


LG seems to be putting more focus on their OLEDs than their LED/LCDs.


And while Sharp was very aggressive with price drops out of the gate, they have stalled since then and are now starting to look less competitive (especially considering the 'less than true 4K' aspect).


Finally with Toshiba, we'll have to wait and see how well the FALD 65L9400U performs - it sure looks competitive versus the Sony FALD 65X950B but whether it's going to command a 20-25% premium against the ELPD Samsung UN65HU9000 remains to be seen (skeptical, though).
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Pretty amazing, isn't it!


The Samsung UN658550 'flat flagship' now has a street price that is identical to the announced MSRP of the flat Vizio 65" P Series - who ever could have believed that would be possible in the weeks following CES???


Sony and Panasonic are in la-la land.


LG seems to be putting more focus on their OLEDs than their LED/LCDs.


And while Sharp was very aggressive with price drops out of the gate, they have stalled since then and are now starting to look less competitive (especially considering the 'less than true 4K' aspect).


Finally with Toshiba, we'll have to wait and see how well the FALD 65L9400U performs - it sure looks competitive versus the Sony FALD 65X950B but whether it's going to command a 20-25% premium against the ELPD Samsung UN65HU9000 remains to be seen (skeptical, though).
it seems japan has lost touch with a lot of things the quality control is quite scary. It seems theirs problems of course with them all, but at least the Koreans are awake and seem to get what its going to take to move 4k sets this year curved or not. hopefully sony wakes up i still think the 950b is an amazing set but for its price does not seem worth it. hopefully the 65" oled will have even better pricing in a few months i suspect it will drop even more.
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it seems japan has lost touch with a lot of things the quality control is quite scary. It seems theirs problems of course with them all, but at least the Koreans are awake and seem to get what its going to take to move 4k sets this year curved or not. hopefully sony wakes up i still think the 950b is an amazing set but for its price does not seem worth it. hopefully the 65" oled will have even better pricing in a few months i suspect it will drop even more.

Yeah, in the US market, at least, if the 65" LG WOLED materializes and takes a significant slice of the high-end pie (to say nothing of the Vizio R Series), Sony is not going to have any kind of stronghold and will be in trouble.


Panasonic has not yet priced the AX900, but I'm not optimistic.


Sharp seems to be awake and has quickly adjusted to the new reality pricing-wise, but they unfortunately seem to be stuck with technology that is one step back in so many ways. If only they had come out with a 4K Sharp Elite this year (maybe next?).


And Toshiba is down to its last two cards (one of which was a deuce - the L7400U) - let's hope the L9400U give the X950B a run for its money. If the Toshiba delivers quality in the league of the 65X950B and 65X900 and sells at a price similar to the Samsung UN65HU9000, they might have a fighting chance to gain some market share this year.


I foresee some pretty significant fallout in 2015...
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More drops in street prices of the Sony and Samsung Flagships.


The most expensive 65" Samsung (UN65HU9000) can now be found widely for under $3000 and the Sony 65X950B can be more and more easily found for just under $6000...


Also, Vizio just did a full refresh of their website so the P Series should start emerging soon and the chances of the R Series actually materializing look a bit better: www.vizio.com

Where can the hu9000 be found for under 3k?
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Where can the hu9000 be found for under 3k?

Go to google and search: https://www.google.com/#q=Samsung+UN65HU9000
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Ok those are not authorized retailers.
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Ok those are not authorized retailers.

If you say so. I'm just updating with the street pricing I can find easily through multiple vendors...
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Ok those are not authorized retailers.
some of them are authorized vendors on amazon.
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Curiously the Samsung UN75HU8550 price isn't dropping the way its 65" little brother's is. This is worrying for me as I'll be in the market in October and was planning on the 75" being under $4000. Is it normal for the largest sets in a series to hold their premium pricing as the smaller sets continually drop in price? Or is it likely the 75" price will drop significantly over the next two months?

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some of them are authorized vendors on amazon.
That does not mean they are authorized sellers by the manufacturers. It's well known than almost all off these store front operations out of NY and NJ are scam artists who will always post low prices to attract victims. They will hit you up for additional shipping charges & insurance which negates any savings you will make from buying from a legitimate seller. Plus they all have restocking fees and horrible customer service. Google any of those non-authorized seller & read their reviews. Those prices are not real. Even if they sell on amazon their prices are higher than on their own website because they can't pull the same scam selling through amazon. I'm in the market for a 65 inch 4K TV and came upon this thread. When I saw prices were dropping I was excited until I saw the so called vendors whose prices are quoted. lol
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September is going to be insane with so many new sets dropping. JVC 65" FALD for $1999 and 85" FALD for $7995. LG 65" OLED. VIZIO P and maybe R series. Toshiba 65L9400U. Samsung 85" FALD. SHARP 70" UD20. Some one should make a spreadsheet listing which panels are used in which set. Most all 79" and 84" are from LG Displays. Most 60" and 70" are Sharp. Innolux and AUO making 55" 65" 75". Samsung and Innolux making 85". Crazy times.
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That does not mean they are authorized sellers by the manufacturers. It's well known than almost all off these store front operations out of NY and NJ are scam artists who will always post low prices to attract victims. They will hit you up for additional shipping charges & insurance which negates any savings you will make from buying from a legitimate seller. Plus they all have restocking fees and horrible customer service. Google any of those non-authorized seller & read their reviews. Those prices are not real. Even if they sell on amazon their prices are higher than on their own website because they can't pull the same scam selling through amazon. I'm in the market for a 65 inch 4K TV and came upon this thread. When I saw prices were dropping I was excited until I saw the so called vendors whose prices are quoted. lol
ok let me clear up what is said some of them not all of them are in fact authorized vendors by manufacturers who sell TVs multiple places like amazon, their own websites and even eBay. either way this is a non issue for me if you plan to spend this amount of money do your research before you get scammed. i have no clue why people take a chance with these guys when the site sponser offers great pricing with less hassle.
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US MSRP for the LG 65EC9700 has finally been leaked ($9000): http://www.geek.com/news/lgs-65-inch...ulous-1600864/


And more importantly, pre-release street pricing is already down to $6250!
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US MSRP for the LG 65EC9700 has finally been leaked ($9000): http://www.geek.com/news/lgs-65-inch...ulous-1600864/


And more importantly, pre-release street pricing is already down to $6250!
Where did you see that price?
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Where did you see that price?

Right here on the Forum (you know who I mean ;-)


If you are interested in OLED, the 'Flat Panel General and OLED' forum is a good source for information...
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September is going to be insane with so many new sets dropping. JVC 65" FALD for $1999 and 85" FALD for $7995. LG 65" OLED. VIZIO P and maybe R series. Toshiba 65L9400U. Samsung 85" FALD. SHARP 70" UD20. Some one should make a spreadsheet listing which panels are used in which set. Most all 79" and 84" are from LG Displays. Most 60" and 70" are Sharp. Innolux and AUO making 55" 65" 75". Samsung and Innolux making 85". Crazy times.
If I didn't buy just now and waited until Sept.. at that time, then I'd wait until Black Friday.. or after holiday, pre-Super Bowl pricing.. then CES.. and 2015 new set releases.. so probably wouldn't buy until April-ish..

so yea.. kudos to those with better will power and decisiveness than I!!
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A bit more drift lower on Sonys, Samsungs and some Sharps, but not much change.


The VE Shootout later this month, the arrival of the Gen-2 LG WOLEDs, and the arrival of the Vizio P (and also hopefully news on the Vizio R) are all on the horizon...
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Can't wait for the Vizio hype to fizzle. That brand is a bane on every videophile.
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