Originally Posted by wandering_star
So the R series might have a slim chance of arriving in November? If they wait longer, the window for 2014 is done, IMO. I will officially have to label them as carnival barkers should they fail to deliver.
Vizio seems to prefer the style of 'under-commit and over-deliver' so it's possible that they are going to withhold release-date and pricing information on the R Series until the cusp of launch.
I originally thought that the lack of announced pricing by now was a reason for high-skepticism, but I now think that the re-make of the website including the R Series achieves about the same thing as having pricing announced.
And the advantage of not committing themselves to pricing until the last minute is that it gives Vizio more flexibility.
Historically, Vizio appears to shy away from the 'high MSPR steeply discounted in street pricing' approach favored by Samsung, LG, Sony and most others. Vizio typically announces pricing and sticks to it all the way until the end-of-life phase where they offer relatively modest discounts of 5-10% on discontinued models.
I actually have much higher respect for Vizio pricing strategy than the absurd and meaningless MSRP strategy of the other vendors, which just seems like a tactic to wring additional margin out of unaware and unsuspecting buyers.
And as I have said since the beginning, Vizio has the luxury of being able to price the 65" R Series at essentially any price they would like - it is a marketing investment to improve the value of their brand and 'move up the ranks'.
I believe they are going to ignore the Sony 65X950B and focus instead on the street price of the Samsung UN65HU9000 (and possibly also the near-flagship Sony 65X900B as well as the LG LED/LCG flagship 65UB9800.
Currently, street pricing of the Samsung UN65HU9000 is below $3000, street pricing on the Sony 65X900B is under $4000, and street pricing on the LG 65UB9800 is $3350.
So based on today's street pricing, I would expect Vizio to price the 65" R Series below $3500.
But by holding off until just prior to launch, they can monitor what happens with street pricing of the other TVs and adjust their non-discounted price accordingly.
It's interesting that the street price of the Samsung near-flagship UN65HU8550 is now basically identical to the Vizio near-flagship 65" P Series at $2200 and it may be that Vizio will focus solely on pricing of the Samsung flagship UN65HU9000 when pricing the 65" R Series. If so, this could mean a price closer to $3000 than $3500...
Seeing that the website has just been updated to include the R Series (and P Series), I agree that we have to expect the R Series will be in the channels by Black Friday and the Holiday shopping season. So we may not learn anything more until late-October/early-November.
But I would have to say that the chance of the 65" R Series materializing before the end of the year is now less slim than it was a month ago in my view.