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The first owner (mxpx5678) of a 40" 2014 Vizio E Series has just reported his initial impressions this morning: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1510136/2014-vizio-thread-all-models/210

I've established this thread so hopefully his ongoing review (as well as the reviews of other 2014 Exxx-Bx Series owners as they continue to materialize) will be easier for those of us interested to find...

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The first owner (mxpx5678) of a 40" 2014 Vizio E Series has just reported his initial impressions this morning: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1510136/2014-vizio-thread-all-models/210

I've established this thread so hopefully his ongoing review (as well as the reviews of other 2014 E Series owners as they continue to materialize) will be easier for those of us interested to find...

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Hey checking in here. Let me know if you have questions. I also have a 60inch M series to compare the set to. Would love to start seeing other owners and what picture settings they are using.
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Hey checking in here. Let me know if you have questions. I also have a 60inch M series to compare the set to. Would love to start seeing other owners and what picture settings they are using.

I'll have to check my local costco. I hope they have the new 60 or 70" Es series. I couldn't see any on amazon.
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Hoping to find these in my area soon. Any word on gaming and input lag on the new E's?
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I will hookup my Xbox One to it later but so far it seems like it is getting the signal faster than the 60 inch. I havent noticed any lag on my 60 inch so I think it should be ok.
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Hoping to find these in my area soon. Any word on gaming and input lag on the new E's?

I tested input lag to be 26.8ms on the 40" 2014 E-series, which is excellent.
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I'll have to check my local costco. I hope they have the new 60 or 70" Es series. I couldn't see any on amazon.

I spoke with one of the employees at Costco, and they have no idea when they will be getting larger sizes. They currently only carry the 32" and 40" models.
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I spoke with one of the employees at Costco, and they have no idea when they will be getting larger sizes. They currently only carry the 32" and 40" models.

I guess that makes sense - start with the lowest-end/lowest-cost panels first. I guess we'll just need to be patient to understand how well this technology scales to larger size panels.

In any case, you have to give Vizio credit for teeing up the channels so that we are seeing our first consumer reviews on the new 2014 E-Series panels the Saturday after the CES where the new lineup was announced.

I tell ya', these Vizio guys are planning to take the TV world by storm this year - take no prisoners biggrin.gif

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I spoke with one of the employees at Costco, and they have no idea when they will be getting larger sizes. They currently only carry the 32" and 40" models.

At least oinline, it looks like Costco has the 50" E-Series as well: http://www.costco.com/Vizio-50%22-1080p-120Hz-Full-Array-LED-Smart-HDTV-E500i-B1.product.100095770.html

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p.s. notice the reference to 'Full Array' front and center. The real story about Visio in 2014 will not be that they killed 3D, but that they killed edge-lit!
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Amazon now has the 40" 2014 E-Series as well (a whole $2 off of MSRP :-)

http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-E400i-B2-40-Inch-1080p-120Hz/dp/B00GKKI4Q6/ref=sr_1_6?s=tv&srs=2530743011&ie=UTF8&qid=1389490483&sr=1-6&keywords=vizio

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Amazon now has the 40" 2014 E-Series as well (a whole $2 off of MSRP :-)

http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-E400i-B2-40-Inch-1080p-120Hz/dp/B00GKKI4Q6/ref=sr_1_6?s=tv&srs=2530743011&ie=UTF8&qid=1389490483&sr=1-6&keywords=vizio

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That is the one I purchased.

When I was at costco it seemed like they had the 70inch as well. But I didn't see a model number but the box looked new.
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That is the one I purchased.

When I was at costco it seemed like they had the 70inch as well. But I didn't see a model number but the box looked new.

Yes it is interesting because the older 2013 are in the newer boxes now. Maybe it is to push the sales of the older ones? I am not sure, but it is going to be even more confusing to consumers looking for the newer models.
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I posted this in the other thread but will post it here as well.

So it finally got dark enough for me to test out this set in a dark environment.

I am happy to say that there is almost no noticeable blooming. Especially when compared to my M Series.

I watched several scenes from Skyfall, specifically the fireworks when he is going to the asian casino and the scenes where he is tracking the sniper in the high rise building. Both of those are scenarios where there is a LOT of focused brightness surrounded by darkness.

On the M series the rest of the scene would get washed out due to the Halo and blooming. On the E Series the light was really focused while the rest of the scene stayed very black.

I tried to take a picture of it but my camera on my phone wasn't cooperating..

I am very impressed with this new E series and think they are now an outstanding value.
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Amazon now has the 40" 2014 E-Series as well (a whole $2 off of MSRP :-)

http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-E400i-B2-40-Inch-1080p-120Hz/dp/B00GKKI4Q6/ref=sr_1_6?s=tv&srs=2530743011&ie=UTF8&qid=1389490483&sr=1-6&keywords=vizio

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The weirdest part about that listing is that is not the MSRP that is listed on Vizio's press release meaning these should be even cheaper.
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Amazon now has the 40" 2014 E-Series as well (a whole $2 off of MSRP :-)

http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-E400i-B2-40-Inch-1080p-120Hz/dp/B00GKKI4Q6/ref=sr_1_6?s=tv&srs=2530743011&ie=UTF8&qid=1389490483&sr=1-6&keywords=vizio

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WTF. I don't even see that model listed on the Vizio website. Only the 39". What gives? Is there a real complete list of the new ones somewhere? I'm curious if there's a 32" 1080P. The 39 and 40 are tempting though, since the input lag is being reported as low. I have to wonder what the competition will be like though. What's the best way to keep up on new models and input lag reports? I'm also curious if these screens support 1080i50? I imported Torchwood a while back, and either my PS3 doesn't like it, my screen, or both, cause I just get a black screen. It's not region locked.
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WTF. I don't even see that model listed on the Vizio website. Only the 39". What gives? Is there a real complete list of the new ones somewhere? I'm curious if there's a 32" 1080P. The 39 and 40 are tempting though, since the input lag is being reported as low. I have to wonder what the competition will be like though. What's the best way to keep up on new models and input lag reports?

Here you go they are buried in here.

http://store.vizio.com/news/vizio-announces-2014-e-series-and-m-series-hdtv-collections
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Here you go they are buried in here.

http://store.vizio.com/news/vizio-announces-2014-e-series-and-m-series-hdtv-collections

That doesn't tell me what sizes they are or anything though. Like I said, browsing the E series list is apparently only showing last years models or something.

edit: finding them on Amazon. Bah. Both 32" models are only 720P. Looking like 40" unless something else impresses me.
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That doesn't tell me what sizes they are or anything though. Like I said, browsing the E series list is apparently only showing last years models or something.

This list is in the press release.

VIZIO E-Series Full-Array LED backlit LCD Smart TVs
(E231) $159.99 (MSRP)
(E231i) $179.99 (MSRP)
(E241) $179.99 (MSRP)
(E241i) $199,99 (MSRP)
(E280) $199.99 (MSRP)
(E280i) $299.99 (MSRP)
(E320) $239.99 (MSRP)
(E320i) $269.99 (MSRP)
(E320fi) $299.99 (MSRP)
(E390) $329.99 (MSRP)
(E390i) $369.99 (MSRP)
(E400i) $399.99 (MSRP)
(E420) $399.99 (MSRP)
(E420i) $429.99 (MSRP)
(E480) $499.99 (MSRP)
(E480i) $569.99 (MSRP)
(E500i) $599.99 (MSRP)
(E550i) $699.99 (MSRP)
(E600i) $899.99 (MSRP)
(E650i) $1,199.99 (MSRP)
(E700i) $1,599.99 (MSRP)
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That doesn't tell me what sizes they are or anything though. Like I said, browsing the E series list is apparently only showing last years models or something.

edit: finding them on Amazon. Bah. Both 32" models are only 720P. Looking like 40" unless something else impresses me.

if the model number ends in an 'Ax' or 'Axx' is is a 2013 model. If it ends in a 'Bx' or a 'Bxx' it is a new 20124 model. Vizio that have a model number without an 'A' or a 'B' suffix are probably old (especially if they are only available used :-)

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I posted this in the other thread but will post it here as well.

So it finally got dark enough for me to test out this set in a dark environment.

I am happy to say that there is almost no noticeable blooming. Especially when compared to my M Series.

I watched several scenes from Skyfall, specifically the fireworks when he is going to the asian casino and the scenes where he is tracking the sniper in the high rise building. Both of those are scenarios where there is a LOT of focused brightness surrounded by darkness.

On the M series the rest of the scene would get washed out due to the Halo and blooming. On the E Series the light was really focused while the rest of the scene stayed very black.

I tried to take a picture of it but my camera on my phone wasn't cooperating..

I am very impressed with this new E series and think they are now an outstanding value.

It would be nice to not what model your talking about; ya think....
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It would be nice to not what model your talking about; ya think....
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Sorry I mentioned it elsewhere it is a e400i-b2 my other set is a must series 60 inch
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That doesn't tell me what sizes they are or anything though. Like I said, browsing the E series list is apparently only showing last years models or something.
I had the same problem. Something's messed up with VIZIO's website. If you sort the models by size, all the 2014 sets go to the bottom - as if they have no size. And I'm not certain all the ones that have been spotted at retailers (Costco) are listed on VIZIO's site.

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I'm puzzled by the B0 and B1 in the 39" version of the new series. The Vizio website shows

 

E390-B0

E390-B1

 

E390i-B0

E390i-B1

 

I'm most interested in the non-smart models, and I can't see anything different in the specs of the B0 and B1. I called Vizio and the salesperson didn't know of any difference. But I don't suppose the salesperson would necessarily know. He had no estimate of when the 39" series would be available.

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Looking at the pictures, there is definitely a difference in the E390-B0 and E390-B1. In particular, looking at the side and back views, one can see that the panels are thin near the edges, but they have a raised, thicker portion in the middle. The raised, thicker portion occupies a noticeably smaller portion of the back of the panel on the B0 than it does on the B1. And the weight of the B0 is listed as 12.57 pounds (without stand), while the weight of the B1 is listed as 14.11 pounds (without stand).

 

http://store.vizio.com/led-lcd-hdtvs/e390b0.html

 

http://store.vizio.com/led-lcd-hdtvs/e390b1.html

 

It's as if they switched manufacturing sources, and ended up with slightly different implementations of basically the same design.

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Is the E500i-B1 new?
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Yes, any that end with B1 or B2 are new.
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Yeah that is why I bought the 40inch that I did, I could tell it was a new model and it was available on Amazon.
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Yes, any that end with B1 or B2 are new.

Are those ending in B0 also new?

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Are those ending in B0 also new?

I believe so. I think A is last years models.
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I posted this in the other thread but will post it here as well.

So it finally got dark enough for me to test out this set in a dark environment.

I am happy to say that there is almost no noticeable blooming. Especially when compared to my M Series.

I watched several scenes from Skyfall, specifically the fireworks when he is going to the asian casino and the scenes where he is tracking the sniper in the high rise building. Both of those are scenarios where there is a LOT of focused brightness surrounded by darkness.

On the M series the rest of the scene would get washed out due to the Halo and blooming. On the E Series the light was really focused while the rest of the scene stayed very black.

I tried to take a picture of it but my camera on my phone wasn't cooperating..

I am very impressed with this new E series and think they are now an outstanding value.

So I'm interested in any other impressions you have from your first night with your new E Series panel...

Did you get a chance to compare the image with local dimming OFF versus local dimming ON?

It sounds like you are very satisfied that the 2014 E Series is a superior image to the 2013 M Series, but I (and probably many of us) are surprised that your 40" E panel is delivering such a good image with only 5 horizontal local dimming zones. That's almost like an edge-lit approach to local dimming, so except for the change from light guides to full array LED, it's hard to fathom where the improvement could have come from.

Any more impressions or insights greatly appreciated...

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