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Well been looking at the Sony and Samsung but I have always liked Sony TV's so I guess I'm glad I waited due to the new 2014 model look nice. That's probably what I will go with once they become available to buy but overall they do look nice. 

 

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Well been looking at the Sony and Samsung but I have always liked Sony TV's so I guess I'm glad I waited due to the new 2014 model look nice. That's probably what I will go with once they become available to buy but overall they do look nice. 

http://store.sony.com/-cms-ces.2014.television.landing.page?SR=tab:store:main:CES:ss


On the "W" series (W850B) they removed the Triluminous display frown.gif. Came out with a 70" model and want $2900 for it. Overpriced with lack of better panel!! Personally I am waiting for the 4K FALD Vizio 70" "P" series to hit the streets. If it turns out to be a good TV then at $2600 it will be a killer to Sony and Samsung.
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Looks like the W850 just was released in the Fall of 2013, might be best served getting one of those as the decrease in price.
Wonder when the W950B with triluminous would be out.

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Looks like the W850 just was released in the Fall of 2013, might be best served getting one of those as the decrease in price.
Wonder when the W950B with triluminous would be out.

2013 only available in 65"- not big enough. 70" is my answer.. Gerry
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After more looking, the KDL-70W850B is intersting to me.

Id love a 70" and with the current W800 series reviews on Amazon, I'm a little more confident this may outperform a 70" Sharp in the same price range. Plus I get my sets calibrated and am not a fan of the yellow pixel.

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More I read on the W850 and W900 2013 models and Triluminous, it is a little irritating they left it off the 70".

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More I read on the W850 and W900 2013 models and Triluminous, it is a little irritating they left it off the 70".

I don't know where Sony is headed but it seems to be one bad decision after the other in the pursuit of higher profit margins and screw the consumer.. When I saw that they were finally coming out with a 70" "W850"
I was really jumping for joy.. Then I found out that they yanked the Triluminous display.. I'm now looking hard at the Vizio 70" "P" series when it makes the street.... Gerry
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I don't know where Sony is headed but it seems to be one bad decision after the other in the pursuit of higher profit margins and screw the consumer.. When I saw that they were finally coming out with a 70" "W850"
I was really jumping for joy.. Then I found out that they yanked the Triluminous display.. I'm now looking hard at the Vizio 70" "P" series when it makes the street.... Gerry

What are the benefits of the Triluminous technology? I had one of Sony's mastered in 4K discs and a new Triluminous display and the color looked exactly the same as it did on my Sony 950.
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What are the benefits of the Triluminous technology? I had one of Sony's mastered in 4K discs and a new Triluminous display and the color looked exactly the same as it did on my Sony 950.

This link explains what it is. From what I have read here the display seems to be significantly less susceptible to clouding and flashlighting...

http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/16/3881546/sonys-new-triluminous-tvs-pursue-vibrant-hues-with-quantum-dots

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This link explains what it is. From what I have read here the display seems to be significantly less susceptible to clouding and flashlighting...

http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/16/3881546/sonys-new-triluminous-tvs-pursue-vibrant-hues-with-quantum-dots

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According to rogo, who is a very reliable source of info, the QD filter was not the cause for improvement in flashlighting and clouding, it was Sony reigning manufacturing precision.

If so, even though there is no QD feature, the price on that 70" W series is outstanding IMO. It's definitely going to be on my list of 70" displays...

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Still the Sony 70" W is 1080p. The Vizio 70" P is 4K at $2600 compared to $2900 for the Sony edge lit. Time will tell on quality/problems etc.. Also, you sure do get around the threads wink.gif.
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Oh yeah. Im a long term Panny plasma owner with no home LOL. Im trying to catch up as much as I can on LCD tech right now because i honestly had not paid attention the last few years, other than the Sharp elite.

Ive pretty much come down to interest in what Sony and Vizio do, maybe Toshiba.

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Ive done some more reading, reviews for the last couple of years "W" models really show nice tv's. If sony continues this with the 70" at a msrp of $2899, that is very good.

They still dont offer CMS controls, but results show they plot well when 25%-100% when tested in the advanced chart with a meter. Sony has also adopted the 2.4 gamma in recent models and that adds to the pop of the image.

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Posted over at the post CES thread but guess it is more appropriate here . I am interested in the low end kdl-40w600B . It looks like it is quite a step up from last year's kdl-40r450 . We probably won't see this model till late spring here in Canada so if anyone gets a chance to see it let us know.
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I know if you look on their website to preorder the 70" "W" series, its a 3/13 est. ship date.

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Different series . Different country . Will still wait for some reviews or just views no re .
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I hoping the sony w950b has a adjustable stand. I want the sixty inch.
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Im a little concerned about the "wedge" and a flat wall mount. I like my wall mount and really do not want to have to get another.

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So the 70" models will be a Sharp panel I reckon? Seems like I remember someone saying sharp is the only one making 70" panels. Wonder how that will compare to previous years and their 55 and 65" panel performance?

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Sony's hip-hop with active and then passive then active makes me wonder if it is the panel manufacture's who dictates active or passive 3D
The 84( 4K) inch is passive 3D and when I looked at their 79 4K and 85 4K they are both active 3D.
Does anyone know who is making the 79 and 85 panels for Sony?
HD Guru stated the sharp 70 UHD panel is 10 bit.
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I know the 84 is an LG IIRC. Not sure on 79 and 85. As a plasma guy and LCD newb, I had no idea size determined where they got the panel from. The W850B I have been looking at will come in 60 and 70", that makes me assume these are Sharp panels and maybe its why they dont have Triluminuos.

That doesnt add up though because the XBR850B 70" does have triluminous.

I wonder how the 2013 W 65" 850A panel will compare in performance to the newer W 70" 850B panel?

All in all, $2900 for a 70" W series Sony is a good deal in my book. The W line always reviews well, and it's not a quattron which do not really make for good calibration displays. Sony has good video processing.

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I know the 84 is an LG IIRC. Not sure on 79 and 85. As a plasma guy and LCD newb, I had no idea size determined where they got the panel from. The W850B I have been looking at will come in 60 and 70", that makes me assume these are Sharp panels and maybe its why they dont have Triluminuos.

That doesnt add up though because the XBR850B 70" does have triluminous.

I wonder how the 2013 W 65" 850A panel will compare in performance to the newer W 70" 850B panel?

All in all, $2900 for a 70" W series Sony is a good deal in my book. The W line always reviews well, and it's not a quattron which do not really make for good calibration displays. Sony has good video processing.
Yeah I am not sure if Sony simply buys the screens or the complete main board and LED array as well? The Triluminous is simply a prism like filter place over the LED's to help the create more accurate colors.
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I hoping the sony w950b has a adjustable stand. I want the sixty inch.
The feet slide to toward the center of the display.
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Yeah I am not sure if Sony simply buys the screens or the complete main board and LED array as well? The Triluminous is simply a prism like filter place over the LED's to help the create more accurate colors.

Not a clue, the more I learn about Sony, Vizio, Sharp, Samsung, etc... in LED LCD the more confused I get! Id guess since 70" panels (see Sharp) have difference variants of backlighting, must just be the "screen". This is where Rogo is pretty knowledgeable.

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Sony's hip-hop with active and then passive then active makes me wonder if it is the panel manufacture's who dictates active or passive 3D
The 84( 4K) inch is passive 3D and when I looked at their 79 4K and 85 4K they are both active 3D.
Does anyone know who is making the 79 and 85 panels for Sony?
HD Guru stated the sharp 70 UHD panel is 10 bit.
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Sony's hip-hop with active and then passive then active makes me wonder if it is the panel manufacture's who dictates active or passive 3D
The 84( 4K) inch is passive 3D and when I looked at their 79 4K and 85 4K they are both active 3D.
Does anyone know who is making the 79 and 85 panels for Sony?
HD Guru stated the sharp 70 UHD panel is 10 bit.
I know that Samsung is producing a 79" and 85".
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Sony's hip-hop with active and then passive then active makes me wonder if it is the panel manufacture's who dictates active or passive 3D
The 84( 4K) inch is passive 3D and when I looked at their 79 4K and 85 4K they are both active 3D.
Does anyone know who is making the 79 and 85 panels for Sony?
HD Guru stated the sharp 70 UHD panel is 10 bit.

I believe it is the LCD panel manufacturer that either deposits the patterned polarizer layer needed to support passive 3D or does not. If the glass was manufactured without the required patterning of the polarizer layer (alternating vertically-oriented polarizer rows with horizontally-oriented polarizer rows), then passive 3D cannot be supported and active 3D is the only option for that panel...

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I know that Samsung is producing a 79" and 85".

That would explain the active 3D and I know the 84 was a Lg panel and passive.
Samsung and LG have been battling it out over 3D
Most of the reviews on the 84's passive 3D were very good and I didn't think Sony would go back to active 3D
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I know that Samsung is producing a 79" and 85".

LG also announced a 79" TV - of I course I don't know, but I just think that LG would not buy anything from Samsung, so the Sony's 79" could be either or?
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Sony 2014 models confirmed adjustable stand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCFuZ4cBw_Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I called up Sony today and asked if the stand legs were adjustable and they connected me to a tech and he said they weren't - shows what some of their techs know.
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