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Hi, I purchased the Samsung 78inch(Europe version) screen which I got nearly weeks ago, im concerned that it was damaged in transit, I think there is considerable backlight bleeding. Does anyone have anything similar? Cheers
That's really bad. BUT, there was another user here that had clouding just as bad as you, and he got rid of almost all of it by the buffing technique.

I think it was @tontondavid .
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Gentlemen,

I recently received my 55 inch HU8550 from Amazon. I have been reading the forums since November and couldnt wait any longer for the Vizio p series. Thanks to all you folks for informing my decision.

Two questions:
1. Anyone else have trouble pairing their directv remote (the new style that comes with the genie and wireless boxes) with their Samsung HU8550? I can't seem to get it to pair. Alternatively, will the Samsung remote pair with the genie? I don't feel like using two remotes.
2. I'm sure there are calibration settings somewhere within this thread but I have been unsuccessful in wading through all the pages. Can someone who has them pm me or post a link for me? I like the vibrant colors of dynamic mode, but i can't stand any juddering....it was my one fear about this tv coming from plasma....i had it plugged in for 30 minutes and sure enough the scroll on the bottom of ESPN juddered....aarggh

Last but not least, it's true....always go with the bigger screen where tou can...kicking myself for not getting the 60 inch
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Hi, I purchased the Samsung 78inch(Europe version) screen which I got nearly weeks ago, im concerned that it was damaged in transit, I think there is considerable backlight bleeding. Does anyone have anything similar? Cheers
Try setting smart LED to standard or high. Looks like it is set to off.

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Gentlemen,

I recently received my 55 inch HU8550 from Amazon. I have been reading the forums since November and couldnt wait any longer for the Vizio p series. Thanks to all you folks for informing my decision.

Two questions:
1. Anyone else have trouble pairing their directv remote (the new style that comes with the genie and wireless boxes) with their Samsung HU8550? I can't seem to get it to pair. Alternatively, will the Samsung remote pair with the genie? I don't feel like using two remotes.
2. I'm sure there are calibration settings somewhere within this thread but I have been unsuccessful in wading through all the pages. Can someone who has them pm me or post a link for me? I like the vibrant colors of dynamic mode, but i can't stand any juddering....it was my one fear about this tv coming from plasma....i had it plugged in for 30 minutes and sure enough the scroll on the bottom of ESPN juddered....aarggh

Last but not least, it's true....always go with the bigger screen where tou can...kicking myself for not getting the 60 inch
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That's really bad. BUT, there was another user here that had clouding just as bad as you, and he got rid of almost all of it by the buffing technique.

I think it was @tontondavid .
Do you have pictures?
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Cheers for the replies, the smart LED setting is on standard , would putting it on high make a difference?
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Do you have pictures?
I don't understand the question. Perhaps I was wrong? I know someone else here had clouding that looked just as bad as that picture, and they got rid of almost all of it by buffing. I thought it was you, but it might have been someone else. Let me see if I can do a quick search...
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Cheers for the replies, the smart LED setting is on standard , would putting it on high make a difference?
It should. It would make the screen darker.

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I don't understand the question. Perhaps I was wrong? I know someone else here had clouding that looked just as bad as that picture, and they got rid of almost all of it by buffing. I thought it was you, but it might have been someone else. Let me see if I can do a quick search...
I did have pretty bad clouding as well. I was just asking if that person had pictures so we could see.
The buffering did help a lot but it was a challenge getting rid of them.
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I did have pretty bad clouding as well. I was just asking if that person had pictures so we could see.
The buffering did help a lot but it was a challenge getting rid of them.
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Hi, I purchased the Samsung 78inch(Europe version) screen which I got nearly weeks ago, im concerned that it was damaged in transit, I think there is considerable backlight bleeding. Does anyone have anything similar? Cheers
Take a soft microfiber cloth and start rubbing in circles, pressing gently. Use this exact scene. The clouding will disapear.
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I will try the high setting tonight when it’s dark outside, I have large windows that will make it difficult to judge any improvement. Do you think this screen might warrant a return? also any ideas what the best calibrated setting would be for this set?
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Custom seems OK, but the other 2 are terrible, it should not be like this. I haven't followed your problem, but have you tried to remove the receiver from the link, i.e. plug blu ray directly in the TV? Check blu ray player settings like resolution, refresh rate set it to 24p...


I ruled out the AVR being the problem by testing the TV by using the built in Netflix app. I flipped through things until I found a similar setup (dark object moving over light background). A good example is a scene in S02E02 of house of cards. A guy is walking through a news room and the ghosting is just as bad.


The vids I posted don't really give you the full impact its much worse in real life.

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Wow, mine was the same in two corners but not all like you.
If you use the rubbing technique then be patient because it may take you a while. You may have to repeat the process several times.
The key is to do it slowly and not to fast.
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Cheers I will give it a go, however Im a bit apprehensive, first of all I will contact Samsung as I don’t want to void the warrantee. I’m thinking that the screen got damage when it was lifted up to my 1st floor apartment, the delivery men seemed to apply pressure when going up my winding staircase. Could that create clouding such as mine?
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I ruled out the AVR being the problem by testing the TV by using the built in Netflix app. I flipped through things until I found a similar setup (dark object moving over light background). A good example is a scene in S02E02 of house of cards. A guy is walking through a news room and the ghosting is just as bad.


The vids I posted don't really give you the full impact its much worse in real life.
I would return it then, I had the European hu7500 and now hu8500, I haven't seen anything as bad.
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Cheers I will give it a go, however Im a bit apprehensive, first of all I will contact Samsung as I don’t want to void the warrantee. I’m thinking that the screen got damage when it was lifted up to my 1st floor apartment, the delivery men seemed to apply pressure when going up my winding staircase. Could that create clouding such as mine?
Yes, this would be the primary reason misaligning the glass during transportation, but try rubbing. Then if no result, use warranty or return it.
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Cheers I will give it a go, however Im a bit apprehensive, first of all I will contact Samsung as I don’t want to void the warrantee. I’m thinking that the screen got damage when it was lifted up to my 1st floor apartment, the delivery men seemed to apply pressure when going up my winding staircase. Could that create clouding such as mine?
buffing won't void the warranty. In fact, the whole idea was spawned by a recent TV interviewer whom contacted samsung about his excessive clouding, and samsung support suggested he try the buffing technique. Since that review, a number of AVSers here have tried it, with very good results.

Returning TVs is such a hassle, I would try buffing first to see if it helps enough, and if you're not satisfied then return it.
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agreed a big hassle to return it, thanks for the help, i will give the buffing a go.
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Junk it ☺,make Samsung send someone out to buff it , ☺ or make them give you another one or buy something else!

The question is if buffing would work in this case would it be a permanent fix ?

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Junk it ☺,make Samsung send someone out to buff it , ☺ or make them give you another one or buy something else!

The question is if buffing would work in this case would it be a permanent fix ?
yes, buffing is a permanent fix.

But it also may not be a bad idea to have samsung do it for you, if you'r nervous about it. You did pay good money for the set after all.
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Cheers I will give it a go, however Im a bit apprehensive, first of all I will contact Samsung as I don’t want to void the warrantee. I’m thinking that the screen got damage when it was lifted up to my 1st floor apartment, the delivery men seemed to apply pressure when going up my winding staircase. Could that create clouding such as mine?
Under normal conditions I do not think the way a unit is carried will cause issues like this. Ya never know for sure though do ya......... Let us know if the buffing helps out.......

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I ruled out the AVR being the problem by testing the TV by using the built in Netflix app. I flipped through things until I found a similar setup (dark object moving over light background). A good example is a scene in S02E02 of house of cards. A guy is walking through a news room and the ghosting is just as bad.


The vids I posted don't really give you the full impact its much worse in real life.
I watch the same scene on my 75" 8550, and it's fine. I'm using the 10/5 motion settings. Perhaps your set is defective.
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i hear the comment about not being able to stop watching this tv; i too have been taking way too long past my normal my bedtime to re-watch my favorite movies. LOTR extended blu-ray has been a real treat on this monster 75" 8550 on the wall.

couple things, for some reason i decided to name my cable tv input as PC type and now that i realize that there is no reason to have that input named that i can't change it. When i select the source and hold the enter button on the smart remote it only lets me choose edit name which changes the particular naming of my cable service but NOT the input type. I was only able to select this when the input was first set up and i verified this by trying to name an unused hdmi port which had the default ----- for a name. Only then when i selected edit name it let me choose what input type was to be on that input. Other than doing a complete wipe reset of the tv i don't see how i can change the type of input on my cable input from PC to a more appropriate input to get some of my PQ settings back. Thoughts?

Also, just wondering if anyone knows what setting is ultimately the main one responsible for tweaking out the flickering flashlight effect of the balck background when there are white credits on a black screen at the end of a movie. It doesn't bother me that much since when a movie is actually in playback there is enough variation that i can't see any of this, but i am just wondering if anyone knows exactly which PQ setting directly tunes this to soften this effect or accentuate it. Truth is i can live with it since i didn't buy the tv for watching credits.

Last question, everyone cites you need about 20Mbit/s connection to stream 4k but this seems to be a general statement; does anyone have any true info on the status of the download rate on their router while they are streaming 4k through their tv? Are you truly using a full 2.5 Megabytes / second download rate?
Depends on competing priorities at your router. a 1 hour 4k show is probably over 10gig. Guessing it might be larger. I could b way off.
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I watch the same scene on my 75" 8550, and it's fine. I'm using the 10/5 motion settings. Perhaps your set is defective.

Starting to think so. I'll have to get in touch with Samsung. Sigh. So much work getting this thing up on the wall. This is the 2nd time I'll have to replace it the first one was totally screwed with a giant band of flickering pixels down the middle.


Ugh.

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Posted this in the Sony thread as well.. Curious to everyone's opinion...

Went into Best Buy today set on a the Samsung 8550 and these slick employees got me in front of the 65x850B and damn was I impressed.. They put on the avengers Blu ray on both the 850b and the hu8550 and the colors were much more vibrant on the 850b.. Seemed smoother as well.. I wonder if it's cuz they didn't have the settings right on the samsung or what... They also told me that the sonys handle sports way better than the samsungs? Is this true? I say 90% of my tv viewing is sports.
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Went into Best Buy today set on a the Samsung 8550 and these slick employees got me in front of the 65x850B and damn was I impressed.. They put on the avengers Blu ray on both the 850b and the hu8550 and the colors were much more vibrant on the 850b.. Seemed smoother as well.. I wonder if it's cuz they didn't have the settings right on the samsung or what... They also told me that the sonys handle sports way better than the samsungs? Is this true? I say 90% of my tv viewing is sports.
Depends on how you set up both at home. The sony has awesome motion. But the sammy in no way has less color. At all.

Thats just the settings.

These sets have identical 4k pictures.

Its the other resolutions that matter.

Again motion is great on the sony.

The sammy can have a more punchy picture. You just have to choose to make it that way.

The sony may appear sharper for sports. So that may be the deciding factor there.
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Depends on competing priorities at your router. a 1 hour 4k show is probably over 10gig. Guessing it might be larger. I could b way off.
well at just over 10 gigs that's in the neighborhood of about 2.5 meg/s needed which is a 20 Mbit connection. good to know.

guess i have trully been looking at 1080p streamed signals that the tv then upconverts to pseudo 4k looks; makes sense, but even then it looks remarkable at the upconversion

1080i over cable box doesn't look anywhere near as crazy amazing as the upconverted bluray 1080p or streaming 1080p. wonder why there is so much of a variance there, hard to believe it would all be because of silly archaic cable companies screwing us over with interlaced but that seems to be what makes the most sense.
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