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Thank you

Thank you all for your insight on Nexflix and Streaming of 4k. I appreciate it. I guess I will have to either wait until the end of this year to see if FIOS stops throttling the Netflix streaming or find a better way to get 4k movies.


I have to say besides this issue regarding Netflix, I am very pleased with the HU8550. I am still looking for a good calibration setting out there to just fine tune the picture (any suggestions welcome).


If anyone is looking for a good 70'+ 4k flat tv I would highly recommend the UN75HU8550. I love the smart remote and the pointer feature.
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Can anyone give me the box dimensions for the 8550 65"? I'm hoping to pick one up from Best Buy next week and unsure whether it'll fit into the trunk of an Audi A5.
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Can anyone give me the box dimensions for the 8550 65"? I'm hoping to pick one up from Best Buy next week and unsure whether it'll fit into the trunk of an Audi A5.
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good luck with that.
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Can anyone give me the box dimensions for the 8550 65"? I'm hoping to pick one up from Best Buy next week and unsure whether it'll fit into the trunk of an Audi A5.
Thanks!
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63 x 37 x 9 inches. That's for the Costco version (UN65HU8500F), but I guess the box size will be the same. It fit into my BMW X3 (lying flat; I supported it with some pillows in the middle).
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Super helpful. Thanks Latinoheat....
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how the heck did you guys pull that off i couldn't even squeeze a 55" in the back of my g37 lol. i can understand the x3 , but the a5 it may be a tight fit
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Anyone have an HU8550 in the full 85" size?

I was going to get the Sony 900B 79" but after seeing not so great first impressions - I am thinking about adding to my budget and going for the Samsung HU8550 85" - anyone have the 85" that can give their unadulterated experience of the pros and cons of the largest size?

Cannot stand the curved screens personally - so for me it is $7200 on the 900B Sony 79" or $9100 on the Samsung HU8550 85" - a local dealer is doing 10% off + free delivery until Friday night. One issue is that he has the Sony in stock and it could be in my living room on Saturday, whereas he would have to order the Samsung and I would not get the 85" in my home for 1-2 weeks.

Is the Samsung well received enough that it makes sense to buy the 85" sight unseen?

I feel pretty strongly that in this price range a display should not really have major issues, that is why I am getting cold feet on the Sony. Is it Samsung to the rescue, or should I wait and put off 4K goodness?
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Can anyone give me the box dimensions for the 8550 65"? I'm hoping to pick one up from Best Buy next week and unsure whether it'll fit into the trunk of an Audi A5.
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Is the Samsung well received enough that it makes sense to buy the 85" sight unseen?
That is a very general question so I will give a very general answer. To most people, any of these high end sets will be loved
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Can anyone give me the box dimensions for the 8550 65"? I'm hoping to pick one up from Best Buy next week and unsure whether it'll fit into the trunk of an Audi A5.
Thanks!
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I was able to fit a 65hu8500 in the trunk of my Mazda 6, just fold the rear seats.
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Can anyone comment on reflections/glare on the F8000 vs the HU8550?

I can get the 75" F8000 for $1500 less than the 75" HU8550, and I'm leaning towards purchasing the F8000.

One thing that's important in my setup (windows in the living room) is how it handles reflections, so if the HU8550 was any better at this, I would consider spending the extra $ on it.
I believe the HU 8550 and F8000 are the same. Reflections are terrible but worse on Sonys. Samsung are more crisp clear and smaller and Sony are muted and wider spread. TV face west I have windows on Southern exposure in the kitchen on the east side of the room with pendant lights and high hats. In the pictures is a 65Hu8550 as a placemat for the ultimate 75 inch that I want to put there. I have heard that the F 8000 can get brighter so I'm still considering that as an option. I have to use variance of the dynamic mode in order to get the ultimate brightness level from my room to overcome the reflections.
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well, I use an HTPC that is directly connected to my TV, so it's much more straight-forward for me... simply download and play the file through vlc.

But I imagine that if you have a USB3 thumb drive, you could use any computer, download the file (which is mp4 format iirc), and connect it to the USB3 input on the TV.

Someone else can probably chime in here.
An external hard drive or NAS, Computer Running Plex server, and the Plex app on the samsung.
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some quick reflections on some more test driving of my HU8550 which is in the process of getting switched by samsung for this early dead pixel.

I temporarily hooked up my tv wirelessly through a wifi hotspot on my phone since my S5 phone is on LTE and could pull about 12 - 13 Mbps versus my home cable internet which is only 5Mbps.

Interesting thing about this dataspeed of my cellphone on LTE is that it was just on the threshold of giving a full 2160 signal with the scenery videos on the samsung smart hub netflix application. had the info button pressed in the app so i could watch the resolution while watching certain parts of the video over and over and there was definitively a noticeable difference between upscaled and upconverted 1080P to when it truly jumped up to a 2160 source. It was actually quite interesting to see this resolution jump on the crispness of detail on flowers and the water spray of the oceans 4k video. Also very interesting to note that from my own personal test 20 Mbps is definitely where you need to safely be to stream consistent 4k content.

in the process of playing around with this for like ten or fifteen minutes i had burned through a gig of data on my cellphone so neat experiment but wow that's a whackful of video information.
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Here is an example of 4K streaming speed. It is the Smurfs 2 streaming in 2160P with 100Mbps Comcast wired to my 8550. I get no buffering ever.


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Here is an example of 4K streaming speed. It is the Smurfs 2 streaming in 2160P with 100Mbps Comcast wired to my 8550. I get no buffering ever.

Same no buffering and movie starts off clean. I think in particular the only movies with better picutres are the moving art desserts and flowers. Forest oceans. The uhd movie pack has 2 documentaries that arengorgeous and a 3rd thats ok.

Thise I love to watch. Smurfs 2 is gorfeous as well.

Man its just all so damn good looking. Im so in love with my set.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Martinuz 
 No offence, but it looks like you use google translate, the sentences are strange to read sometimes and makes it confusing to answer. 
It probably not your questions that are strange, but the translation is. 


Or low level of his answers! 
HE copies  things that he finds in Google !
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I gotta amdit your questions are hard to follow. Sorry they are.

Also is not ok how your reacting. People are trying to help you. Maybe you should calm down.

Try this format.

What is....


1. Wide color vs pur color.
2. Etc.
3 etc.

Maybe that could help?
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RF Remote and Scrolling Ticker Questions

All....just received the HU8550, but have a couple of questions:

1. Is the standard black remote RF capable? The directions indicate to put the IR extender aside once configuration is done, but once I do that the remote doesn't work (my components are in the closet). Using my DirecTV remote instead for now which is RF friendly.

2. Anyone notice a blur with scrolling tickers, such as at the bottom of ESPN or CNN? Is there a setting requiring modification? It appears the TV can't process the scrolling information quickly enough.

Thanks in advance.
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All....just received the HU8550, but have a couple of questions:

1. Is the standard black remote RF capable? The directions indicate to put the IR extender aside once configuration is done, but once I do that the remote doesn't work (my components are in the closet). Using my DirecTV remote instead for now which is RF friendly.

2. Anyone notice a blur with scrolling tickers, such as at the bottom of ESPN or CNN? Is there a setting requiring modification? It appears the TV can't process the scrolling information quickly enough.

Thanks in advance.
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U8550 or U9000

We are looking to replace a Samsung 60" DLP. we have DISH with Hopper, internet is Hughesnet. Also have Apple products
Have been looking at the 65" u8550, u9000 and the f8500. Not sure which one to get.
How does the uhd do with Dish? Not sure we can download any Netflix due to Hughesnet limits. Is the tv glare better or worse on the curved screen?
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I'm a HTPC user. Ever since I bought the 65HU9000 I've been experiencing slight judder when watching 23.976Hz movies. Then I went to my Catalyst Control Center and to my astonishment I noticed that I am unable to set the refresh rate to either 23Hz or 59Hz, if I force it - it's changed to 24Hz instead of 23Hz and 60Hz instead of 59Hz respecitvely. It is like the Samsung TV does not support refresh rates of 23.976Hz and 59.94Hz, which is super weird since all my non-Samsung TVs have supported this for the past 7 years. Can someone shine some more light on this issue for me?

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I'm a HTPC user. Ever since I bought the 65HU9000 I've been experiencing slight judder when watching 23.976Hz movies. Then I went to my Catalyst Control Center and to my astonishment I noticed that I am unable to set the refresh rate to either 23Hz or 59Hz, if I force it - it's changed to 24Hz instead of 23Hz and 60Hz instead of 59Hz respecitvely. It is like the Samsung TV does not support refresh rates of 23.976Hz and 59.94Hz, which is super weird since all my non-Samsung TVs have supported this for the past 7 years. Can someone shine some more light on this issue for me?

I don't have these issues and I'm also an HTPC user. some tips:

use reclock to force the refresh rate. Use mpc-hc as your video player (iirc I think you use madvr video rendering, good)

In display mode settings of madvr, make sure you tell it what refresh rates the monitor supports. IE, 1080p23, 1080p24, etc.

and I'm not sure why CPC isn't giving you the option for 23 or 59 Hz. I am using an Nvidia card, and it allows me to select both from drop-down menu.

Admittedly, I have found it difficult to find the right combo of settings to get smooth motion via HTPC, because it's as though the PC video renderer conflicts with the built-in TV rendering.

Question, have you tried playing the same movies directly from the TV, such as via DLNA or a thumb drive? This will allow you to narrow down the issue, if it's a TV problem or HTPC problem.

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actually, according to the owners manual, 59 and 23 Hz are not supported. Check the appendix of the owners manual, like 2nd to last page.

Suffice to say, using reclock & mpc-hc, I don't notice judder watching movies. Only source that gives me fits is live TV, and that is b/c the source is garbage, and switch between interlaced & progressive scan on-the-fly.
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actually, according to the owners manual, 59 and 23 Hz are not supported. Check the appendix of the owners manual, like 2nd to last page.

Suffice to say, using reclock & mpc-hc, I don't notice judder watching movies. Only source that gives me fits is live TV, and that is b/c the source is garbage, and switch between interlaced & progressive scan on-the-fly.
I can actually select 23 and 59 in the CCC, but it will automatically adjust to 24 and 60 respectively - like the graphics card senses the closest rate the TV actually supports.

I will try to use reclock to speed up video to 24.000 and 60.000, though I'm not sure how this will affect sync as most of my audio is bitstreamed to AVR via reclock.

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I have questions about some features.

Two of the things I got my HU9000 for over other TVs was the PurColour and Wide Colour Enhancer Plus. I've not seen anything in the options menus about these features. Are they always on features or do I enable them somehow. The colours don't really look extra vibrant or anything like that on my HU9000.

Also the Auto Depth Enhancer seemed like a cool effect when I saw in in store (I like a 3D image) but I don't notice it at all. Is this effect only on certain inputs or does it need to be enabled in an option I'm not seeing?

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I have questions about some features.

Two of the things I got my HU9000 for over other TVs was the PurColour and Wide Colour Enhancer Plus. I've not seen anything in the options menus about these features. Are they always on features or do I enable them somehow. The colours don't really look extra vibrant or anything like that on my HU9000.

Also the Auto Depth Enhancer seemed like a cool effect when I saw in in store (I like a 3D image) but I don't notice it at all. Is this effect only on certain inputs or does it need to be enabled in an option I'm not seeing?
It's in settings.

UHD HDMI Color mode. Samsung says engaging this setting "allows the TV to 'see' and display the 4:4:4 content that may potentially be included in HDMI 2.0 compatible sources." Such signals are essentially nonexistent today

The technical details of the HU9000's input suite are among the most advanced of any TV's we've seen. All four of the current OneConnect box's HDMI ports support HDMI 2.0, and in our tests all were capable of accepting 4K at 60 frames per second. Samsung told us three of the four can accept it at 4:4:4 chroma subsampling rate, while the 4th (the MHL-compatible one) can accept 4K/60 at 4:2:0.

The auto depth is on at all times.
Some features you won't even be able to fully use yet. But they are there and the set is capable. Some members may have found a use through USB video.
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iirc, per the cnet review, pur color is on at all times, and auto depth enhancer is engaged in standard mode only. I personally don't notice a difference in "depth" using standard over say, movie mode.

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iirc, per the cnet review, pur color is on at all times, and auto depth enhancer is engaged in standard mode only. I personally don't notice a difference in "depth" using standard over say, movie mode.

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Can I ask do you have uhd color on? If so any difference? Should I even bother?
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