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Yes. You just have to purchase it with the first 30 days after you buy the tv.

As far as the Uhd pack see post #3476 in this thread. You need to scan a copy of your receipt(jpeg). Also use the serial number on the tv and not the box. The tv has 1 extra letter/number at the end.


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Anyone know how long do they take to get a confirmation if they are going to send it or not? I submitted mine over the weekend but no email as of yet. Should I resend it?
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Anyone know how long do they take to get a confirmation if they are going to send it or not? I submitted mine over the weekend but no email as of yet. Should I resend it?
I got my confirmation the next day but it was during the regular business week. They probably processed yours yesterday and you will get a confirmation tonight or tomorrow. Did you at least get a confirmation email that it has been submitted? I did mine last week and my hard drive gets here tomorrow.

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Anyone know how long do they take to get a confirmation if they are going to send it or not? I submitted mine over the weekend but no email as of yet. Should I resend it?
I submitted mines on Sunday 8 /3. I got an email saying something to the effect that they got the request.(auto response I guess). Did you at least get that?
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I submitted mines on Sunday 8 /3. I got an email saying something to the effect that they got the request.(auto response I guess). Did you at least get that?
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I submitted mine Fri morn. Got the reply right away. Then later that same day got shipping notice. Out for delivery today. Shipped from Massachusetts.

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Unfortunately the HU8550 does not have the Cinema Black function. Is there any possibilty to activate the Cinema Black function within the service menu?
This and the 1400 versus 1200 motion spec are the 2 reasons I haven't discounted the curve totally. I wish the 8550 had the same specs as the 9000. But seeing how the 9000 has a little better specs, still have it on the list to consider
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Anecdotally, how bad is the input lag while gaming on the HU8550? I'd very much like to pick a 50" up but am concerned at the 40+ms lag. Keep in mind I'm coming from a 2008 LN32A550.
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Anecdotally, how bad is the input lag while gaming on the HU8550? I'd very much like to pick a 50" up but am concerned at the 40+ms lag. Keep in mind I'm coming from a 2008 LN32A550.
The curved has no issues. Not sure about the flat.
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I got my confirmation the next day but it was during the regular business week. They probably processed yours yesterday and you will get a confirmation tonight or tomorrow. Did you at least get a confirmation email that it has been submitted? I did mine last week and my hard drive gets here tomorrow.

I double checked my email and I found the auto reply that they got it email in my spam folder. Stupid me . Hopefully I'll get shipping notice this week sometime. Thanks all for the replies.
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Submitted mine on July 28th and it is to be delivered tomorrow.
I just submitted mine one time and waited.

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Unfortunately the HU8550 does not have the Cinema Black function. Is there any possibilty to activate the Cinema Black function within the service menu?
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Nope.

Have you tried it or why do you think that it doesn't work?
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I've now had my 65" HU8500 (HU9000 in US) for about a week, and except for one thing, its a mind-blowingly brilliant TV.

The one exception is this: When you watch it in a completely dark room, a scene which is mostly black (like the end credits of a movie) shows some clouding. You'll neevr notice this in daytime viewing, or at night if you have any lights on at all.

Has anyone else noticed this, & if so, have you tried rubbing the screen with a cleaning cloth, and has it had any positive effect? If so, could you please post the cloth make/material you used, and whether you did this when the TV was on or off.

Everything else about the TV is top-notch, Motion handling (even with AMP off), lack of any banding, black levels, contrast, picture quality (which seems to get better after a few days) etc.

And it looks bloody cool too, wall-mounted as mine is
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Full Calibration

Just about done with full calibration of the 65" using Calman 5, ColorFacts, Spears Muncil with Eye One Pro & Minolta CS 200. Once fully calibrated the results are stuning with adequate black levels, beautiful colors and a relatively good gamma curve.

Couple of observations: The grey scale tracking for brighter colors is definetly green, it takes about a -7 on my set to reduce that cast, the other colors are closer and require smaller or no 2 point adjustment. However there are one or two sharp gamma peaks (driven by some rgb roughness) that required me to do further greyscale adjustments with the 10 point system - especially at 90%. Overall gamma came in around 2.3 with a delta e less than 1.7 once done.

Delta e's in automatic color space were less than 2 so I did not bother trying to improve, with red and blue just a little off and green was dead on. Magenta was shifted very slightly to blue.

Light output is crazy on this set and I have my backlight set at 8 and contrast at 95 which gives me a 100% white box reading of 45 lumens - which is a bit high for dark room viewing. Lower contrast settings impacted my gamma results.

Utilitizing speasrs and muncil I was able to determine that a judder setting of 8 or more was very effective at eliminating motion artifacts , there was marked improvement in sharpness on moving objects howeve the line patterns containing red or yellow exhibited strong blotchtes at times. I never saw anyting like that when watching video so I suspect it is far more pronounced on test patterns.

My general settings are:

Backlight 8
Contrast 95
Brightness 45
Sharpness 10 (this was confirmed with all my sharpness patterns- any lower inage is soft and any higher you get noise)
Color 51
tint 50/50
color space auto
white balance - adjusted both 2 & 10 point (my settings probably not transferable due to set to set variation)
gamma -1 (I dont recomend this setting without performing a full grey scale adjustment as you wont come out of black fast enough)
color tone warm 2
auto motion - judder 8 (test pattern) 5 for normal viewing (more natural motion)
smart led high

I would highly recomend finding a quailified isf tech to come out and calibrate this set. Out of the box its ok but once dialed its breathtaking.
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Should use 5150 standard. But yes I think they should work fune.
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I've now had my 65" HU8500 (HU9000 in US) for about a week, and except for one thing, its a mind-blowingly brilliant TV.

The one exception is this: When you watch it in a completely dark room, a scene which is mostly black (like the end credits of a movie) shows some clouding. You'll neevr notice this in daytime viewing, or at night if you have any lights on at all.

Has anyone else noticed this, & if so, have you tried rubbing the screen with a cleaning cloth, and has it had any positive effect? If so, could you please post the cloth make/material you used, and whether you did this when the TV was on or off.

Everything else about the TV is top-notch, Motion handling (even with AMP off), lack of any banding, black levels, contrast, picture quality (which seems to get better after a few days) etc.

And it looks bloody cool too, wall-mounted as mine is
I have the 60" 8550 and mine is about the same as yours...a bit of clouding in a dark room. I loosened up the screws a bit and did the micro fiber cloth rubbing out and it did help mine.
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I have the 60" 8550 and mine is about the same as yours...a bit of clouding in a dark room. I loosened up the screws a bit and did the micro fiber cloth rubbing out and it did help mine.
Thanks. Did you do it with the TV on or off? And how long did you do it for? 1-2 mins, or longer?
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Thanks. Did you do it with the TV on or off? And how long did you do it for? 1-2 mins, or longer?
I did it with the TV on and about one minute, very lightly!
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Do you know the number for the HU8550? I heard something like 76ms originally, but also a rumor that this went down to 44ms with the newest firmware when using a PC-named input.

Thanks!
The pc thing is lame, doesnt it really mess with the quality of the picture
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Do you know the number for the HU8550? I heard something like 76ms originally, but also a rumor that this went down to 44ms with the newest firmware when using a PC-named input.

Thanks!
Sorry, I have no information about that model.
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Just about done with full calibration of the 65" using Calman 5, ColorFacts, Spears Muncil with Eye One Pro & Minolta CS 200. Once fully calibrated the results are stuning with adequate black levels, beautiful colors and a relatively good gamma curve.

Couple of observations: The grey scale tracking for brighter colors is definetly green, it takes about a -7 on my set to reduce that cast, the other colors are closer and require smaller or no 2 point adjustment. However there are one or two sharp gamma peaks (driven by some rgb roughness) that required me to do further greyscale adjustments with the 10 point system - especially at 90%. Overall gamma came in around 2.3 with a delta e less than 1.7 once done.

Delta e's in automatic color space were less than 2 so I did not bother trying to improve, with red and blue just a little off and green was dead on. Magenta was shifted very slightly to blue.

Light output is crazy on this set and I have my backlight set at 8 and contrast at 95 which gives me a 100% white box reading of 45 lumens - which is a bit high for dark room viewing. Lower contrast settings impacted my gamma results.

Utilitizing speasrs and muncil I was able to determine that a judder setting of 8 or more was very effective at eliminating motion artifacts , there was marked improvement in sharpness on moving objects howeve the line patterns containing red or yellow exhibited strong blotchtes at times. I never saw anyting like that when watching video so I suspect it is far more pronounced on test patterns.

My general settings are:

Backlight 8
Contrast 95
Brightness 45
Sharpness 10 (this was confirmed with all my sharpness patterns- any lower inage is soft and any higher you get noise)
Color 51
tint 50/50
color space auto
white balance - adjusted both 2 & 10 point (my settings probably not transferable due to set to set variation)
gamma -1 (I dont recomend this setting without performing a full grey scale adjustment as you wont come out of black fast enough)
color tone warm 2
auto motion - judder 8 (test pattern) 5 for normal viewing (more natural motion)
smart led high

I would highly recomend finding a quailified isf tech to come out and calibrate this set. Out of the box its ok but once dialed its breathtaking.
Mind sharing full settings?
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The pc thing is lame, doesnt it really mess with the quality of the picture
Not that I've noticed.
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A quick look at my 75" 8550 delivered today. Impressive tech. Upscaling is excellent (seems a lot better than the Sony 4K that I saw at BB for few hours.) Bright crisp picture. Did some PS4 gaming (not FPS) - seems fine for lag (and I've been at it since Pong.) Looked at some Comcast 3D...nice with a bit of ghosting (lightest active 3D glasses EVER!) Motion seems fine too. I did a lot of research online/in store where I changed my target TV many times. In the end I relied on the favorable review Chad B did on this series from the CAV shootout. This set seems like the 'bang-for-buck' right now in 4K.
So, this is my 'yes butt' post. Now that the honeymoon is over and I've had a couple of weeks with this set, I've decided to return it. There is backlight bleed in all four corners that can't be rubbed out. I should have waited and preordered the 65 OLED (but who knew he bitch would get close to $6000!)

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A quick look at my 75" 8550 delivered today. Impressive tech. Upscaling is excellent (seems a lot better than the Sony 4K that I saw at BB for few hours.) Bright crisp picture. Did some PS4 gaming (not FPS) - seems fine for lag (and I've been at it since Pong.) Looked at some Comcast 3D...nice with a bit of ghosting (lightest active 3D glasses EVER!) Motion seems fine too. I did a lot of research online/in store where I changed my target TV many times. In the end I relied on the favorable review Chad B did on this series from the CAV shootout. This set seems like the 'bang-for-buck' right now in 4K.
So, this is my 'yes butt' post. Now that the honeymoon is over and I've had a couple of weeks with this set, I've decided to return it. There is backlight bleed in all four corners that can't be rubbed out. I should have waited and preordered the 65 OLED (but who knew the bitch would get close to $6000!)

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My 75" is doing well and thank god no bleed or clouding at all.

However, the price just dropped and it is just out of 30 days that I've had the set. BB still matched it to their new web price since I was still within 45 days of receipt. Nice $500 price drop too so anyone who has the 75" HU8550 should check if they are eligible for a price match.
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Okay, one final picture of my problem. I really want to make sure it's something with the set and nothing in the settings before I return it as defective. This is a pic from Dish Network's HBO HD of Penny Dreadful. The issue I mainly see is moving distortions in dark scenes and only on the right and left sides, never the center of the screen. I thought it was macroblocking, but never saw it with my panasonic plasma. Figure if it were the encoding, the plasma would have shown it as well (wish I still had it to compare).

I also notice that if I sit dead center, the left and right sides are a bit off like I'm sitting off to the side. If I move my head side to side about an 6 inches, the sides change (move left, left looks better. Move right, right looks better.). So this can't be right for such an expensive and well reviewed set. If the sweet spot in the center isn't perfect, then what went wrong.

Anyway, I've attached the pic. This is the extreme as the distortions are rarely so colorful. They're usually shades of blue, black and or gray. If I've missed a setting that is causing this, I'd sure like to know. I don't want to return it as defective if it's something I should be able to adjust.
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Okay, one final picture of my problem. I really want to make sure it's something with the set and nothing in the settings before I return it as defective. This is a pic from Dish Network's HBO HD of Penny Dreadful. The issue I mainly see is moving distortions in dark scenes and only on the right and left sides, never the center of the screen. I thought it was macroblocking, but never saw it with my panasonic plasma. Figure if it were the encoding, the plasma would have shown it as well (wish I still had it to compare).

I also notice that if I sit dead center, the left and right sides are a bit off like I'm sitting off to the side. If I move my head side to side about an 6 inches, the sides change (move left, left looks better. Move right, right looks better.). So this can't be right for such an expensive and well reviewed set. If the sweet spot in the center isn't perfect, then what went wrong.

Anyway, I've attached the pic. This is the extreme as the distortions are rarely so colorful. They're usually shades of blue, black and or gray. If I've missed a setting that is causing this, I'd sure like to know. I don't want to return it as defective if it's something I should be able to adjust.
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well I am in a bit of a state of shock. A friend of mine ordered the 75HU8550 from the dreaded East Coast. I told him to consult me before he bought a tv so I could refer him to a "known" dealer......which he didnt..............Saw it last night and its the real deal.... he got it for........drum roll.........$4199 plus $170 white glove..

How in bloody hell do they sell these sets so low.
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oh and his set had no bleed and was very uniform. Weird though the frame is so slim it actually makes the tv look smaller.
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Worried about softness of 1080i pictures. I'm either going 78 9000 or 75 8550 and when I watch OTA channels on the 78 at best buy, the picture looks to soft compared to my current 55 I have at home. I have tried different settings, but still softer than I think I could live with. Any suggestions from current owners of large screens?
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well I am in a bit of a state of shock. A friend of mine ordered the 75HU8550 from the dreaded East Coast. I told him to consult me before he bought a tv so I could refer him to a "known" dealer......which he didnt..............Saw it last night and its the real deal.... he got it for........drum roll.........$4199 plus $170 white glove..

How in bloody hell do they sell these sets so low.

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