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How is the 85HU8550? What are your initial impressions?
I like the set a lot. Finally go around to mounting the set and actually using it. (Worked all week so I never had a chance to even turn it on).

The set is not bad for weight size. 125 lbs. @ 85" isn't bad compared to my 65" Panny which was 200 lbs. It's thicker than I expected, but I don't care.

Picture is okay right now. I haven't fully dialed things in, but I have enough experience to tell that the set has the capability of being awesome. The picture is a little softnd I haven't figured out yet how to make it crisp yet. there more be some contributing factors amongst settings beyond sharpness.

I did have to push the tint more towards the green, and of course change the judder/blur settings. I'll do a cal in a few weeks when the set has some more hours on it.
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Calibration Free One Day Only

Calibration settings can vary signifcantly from set to set - there are only genral conclusions that can be drawn from a single sample.

To prove my point I am offering to calibrate two 60" or 65" 8550's within 30 miles of zip 19382 (west chester pa) on sunday aug (between 8am 3pm). The only stipulation is that you agree to let me post before after setting, reports and pics. My equipment includes eye one pro, minolta cs 200, cal man 5, color facts. PM if interested.

That will give me 3 samples to discuss on the thread and demonstrate that this set benefits greatly from calibration and that copying settings wont get you where you need to be.
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Finally got a reply for the UHD Movie pak (waited a whole week, yeah I got impatient ). Being sent now should be here in a week or two.

Also about getting my TV professionally calibrated, where is the best place to find Calibrators? Best buy? HHgregg Etc...or goto a higher end audio/video shop.?
Definitely. NOT from the major chains. They train and send their own people. They have the equipment but it's hit and miss on quality and even their best would be mediocre compared to the best independent calibrators. A high end AV shop probably could refer you to a good independent. But there is an entire forum on this site dedicated to his and it includes a sticky topic with a list of good ones by geographic area. I would provide a link but am on mobile right now so not as easy. Also, the best calibrators often travel the country in scheduled "tours" and if you are patient or lucky on timing you can schedule them. Usually similar price. Chad for example, who you may have read his reviews here, travels.
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Calibration settings can vary signifcantly from set to set - there are only genral conclusions that can be drawn from a single sample.



To prove my point I am offering to calibrate two 60" or 65" 8550's within 30 miles of zip 19382 (west chester pa) on sunday aug (between 8am 3pm). The only stipulation is that you agree to let me post before after setting, reports and pics. My equipment includes eye one pro, minolta cs 200, cal man 5, color facts. PM if interested.



That will give me 3 samples to discuss on the thread and demonstrate that this set benefits greatly from calibration and that copying settings wont get you where you need to be.

That is awesome, hope people take you up on it. I'll be interested in the results. Personally I've never had a tv professionally calibrated but I know everyone that has usually raves about it.
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OPPO (103) output setting

What output setting do you have your OPPO set with. This is from the manual:

For both HDMI outputs, the following output resolutions are available: 4Kx2K, Auto, 1080p, 1080i, 720p,

480p/576p, 480i/576i, and Source Direct. If Auto is selected, the player will determine the output resolution

based on the best signal resolution that the TV can display.



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How's everyone’s clouding/banding/flash lighting on the HU8550? Specifically the 75" ones if some of you own them?
I just got my 50HU8550 two days ago, spent 6.5 hours calibrating it Thursday, and have been fine tuning it ever since. I have it set up with an Onkyo TX-SR705, Speakercraft AIM8 FIVE 7.1 system, and "temporary" Panasonic BDT360 BD player (Oppo 103D on it's way). My panel is housed in an amoire (wife, not my idea!) kitty-cornered in an 18'x24' family room with a fireplace. Even with 8(!) windows in this room, I do not mind the panel's reflective screen even during the day. I'm coming from a Sony Aquos LCD with a pure matte screen. I'm giving you these specs to denote that this is not a true HT set-up, but more for total family viewing.

Clouding: None

Banding: None

Flashlighting: very minor in two bottom corners, almost invisible when backlight setting is <10. I've heard taking a microfiber cloth and rubbing in circles gently removes this. I'm waiting to put some more hours on the panel before I try this.

Pixels: perfect

Screen does "turn off" when there is "no signal" or a handshake. The "No source detected" message comes up if I don't have the cable box on or BD player on, not really a concern just a mention.

I believe once I'm done with all adjustments, this will be an almost perfect panel (IH01). I know you mentioned you had a wife. I'm married with 4 kids, and it has passed the "family" test with flying colors.

My wife has 20/15 vision and I have 20/18. We sit anywhere from 6 ft (me) to 12 ft away (her), and she immediately saw a difference. "The PQ looked amazing!" This was with Comcast 1080i movies and shows. The HU8550 does a superb job upconverting BD content. I have a wired connection (105/10) and am pleased with Netflix & Amazon; they upload almost instantly. My 7-year-old watches animated shows on Netflix and after they buffer (3-5 seconds), the upconversion from 2K to 4K makes them almost look native 4K. (If you want to see native 4K, put the set in shop demo mode and look at the mountain scenes with the sheep. They look like they can be plucked right out of the panel!) I am very impressed with the upconversion so far, simply breathtaking.

I pick some of the standard movies in my BD library (Iron Man, Avengers) and 3D movies I just recently purchased (Prometheus, Star Trek, Tangled) and everyone is impressed. I'm still playing around with the depth settings on the BD player because 3D is completely new to me. Also, I have to comment on SDVD. I picked out one of my Criterions, L'Avventura (B&W) and thought I had put in a BD (even though no BD of this movie exists yet). I had to actually go within 6 inches of the panel to see any artifacts. This was the best I have ever seen this SDVD look anywhere. I'll be checking out more SDVDs as I go along.

I know sharing calibration settings has been a very "hot" topic as of late, so I'm reluctant to post these for fear of being flamed. If anyone has questions about specific settings, you can PM me.

I was a little hesitant (as anyone is) with my purchase and nervous about justifying it to my wife. My wife has been impressed and actually happy (go figure!) with the purchase, as well as my kids with 3D. I have absolutely no buyer's remorse, especially with the $200 discount and free $300 Samsung UHD video packet on its way.

I'd give this panel a 9.8/10. There are obviously some imperfections (I'm completely OCD about details!) I really don't know how this could be better without going OLED, but that will be at least a 50% mark up over anything we have now, and well beyond my "justification" range for a family room set-up. If I were getting this panel for a true HT room, I would definitely have gotten a 75" or 85".

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I just got my 50HU8550 two days ago, spent 6.5 hours calibrating it Thursday, and have been fine tuning it ever since. I have it set up with an Onkyo TX-SR705, Speakercraft AIM8 FIVE 7.1 system, and "temporary" Panasonic BDT360 BD player (Oppo 103D on it's way).

Clouding: None

Banding: None

Flashlighting: very minor in two bottom corners, almost invisible when backlight setting is <10. I've heard taking a microfiber cloth and rubbing in circles gently removes this. I'm waiting to put some more hours on the panel before I try this.

Pixels: perfect

Screen does "turn off" when there is "no signal" or a handshake. The "No source detected" message comes up if I don't have the cable box on or BD player on, not really a concern just a mention.

I believe once I'm done with all adjustments, this will be an almost perfect panel (IH01). I know you mentioned you had a wife. I'm married with 4 kids, and it has passed the "family" test with flying colors.

My wife has 20/15 vision and I have 20/18. We sit anywhere from 6 ft (me) to 12 ft away (her), and she immediately saw a difference. "The PQ looked amazing!" This was with Comcast 1080i movies and shows. The HU8550 does a superb job upconverting BD content. I have a wired connection (105/10) and am pleased with Netflix & Amazon; they upload almost instantly. My 7-year-old watches animated shows on Netflix and after they buffer (3-5 seconds), the upconversion from 2K to 4K makes them almost look native 4K. (If you want to see native 4K, put the set in shop demo mode and look at the mountain scenes with the sheep. They look like they can be plucked right out of the panel!) I am very impressed with the upconversion so far, simply breathtaking.

I pick some of the standard movies in my BD library (Iron Man, Avengers) and 3D movies I just recently purchased (Prometheus, Star Trek, Tangled) and everyone is impressed. I'm still playing around with the depth settings on the BD player because 3D is completely new to me. Also, I have to comment on SDVD. I picked out one of my Criterions, L'Avventura (B&W) and thought I had put in a BD (even though no BD of this movie exists yet). I had to actually go within 6 inches of the panel to see any artifacts. This was the best I have ever seen this SDVD look anywhere. I'll be checking out more SDVDs as I go along.

I know sharing calibration settings has been a very "hot" topic as of late, so I'm reluctant to post these for fear of being flamed. If anyone has questions about specific settings, you can PM me.

I was a little hesitant (as anyone is) with my purchase and nervous about justifying it to my wife. My wife has been impressed and actually happy (go figure!) with the purchase, as well as my kids with 3D. I have absolutely no buyer's remorse, especially with the $200 discount and free $300 Samsung UHD video packet on its way.

I'd give this panel a 9.8/10. There are obviously some imperfections (I'm completely OCD about details!) I really don't know how this could be better without going OLED, but that will be at least a 50% mark up over anything we have now, and well beyond my "justification" range.

I'd be interested in your settings if you don't mind sharing. Feel free to send me a pm!
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I just got my 50HU8550 two days ago, spent 6.5 hours calibrating it Thursday, and have been fine tuning it ever since. I have it set up with an Onkyo TX-SR705, Speakercraft AIM8 FIVE 7.1 system, and "temporary" Panasonic BDT360 BD player (Oppo 103D on it's way). My panel is housed in an amoire (wife, not my idea!) kitty-cornered in an 18'x24' family room with a fireplace. Even with 8(!) windows in this room, I do not mind the panel's reflective screen even during the day. I'm coming from a Sony Aquos LCD with a pure matte screen. I'm giving you these specs to denote that this is not a true HT set-up, but more for total family viewing.

Clouding: None

Banding: None

Flashlighting: very minor in two bottom corners, almost invisible when backlight setting is <10. I've heard taking a microfiber cloth and rubbing in circles gently removes this. I'm waiting to put some more hours on the panel before I try this.

Pixels: perfect

Screen does "turn off" when there is "no signal" or a handshake. The "No source detected" message comes up if I don't have the cable box on or BD player on, not really a concern just a mention.

I believe once I'm done with all adjustments, this will be an almost perfect panel (IH01). I know you mentioned you had a wife. I'm married with 4 kids, and it has passed the "family" test with flying colors.

My wife has 20/15 vision and I have 20/18. We sit anywhere from 6 ft (me) to 12 ft away (her), and she immediately saw a difference. "The PQ looked amazing!" This was with Comcast 1080i movies and shows. The HU8550 does a superb job upconverting BD content. I have a wired connection (105/10) and am pleased with Netflix & Amazon; they upload almost instantly. My 7-year-old watches animated shows on Netflix and after they buffer (3-5 seconds), the upconversion from 2K to 4K makes them almost look native 4K. (If you want to see native 4K, put the set in shop demo mode and look at the mountain scenes with the sheep. They look like they can be plucked right out of the panel!) I am very impressed with the upconversion so far, simply breathtaking.

I pick some of the standard movies in my BD library (Iron Man, Avengers) and 3D movies I just recently purchased (Prometheus, Star Trek, Tangled) and everyone is impressed. I'm still playing around with the depth settings on the BD player because 3D is completely new to me. Also, I have to comment on SDVD. I picked out one of my Criterions, L'Avventura (B&W) and thought I had put in a BD (even though no BD of this movie exists yet). I had to actually go within 6 inches of the panel to see any artifacts. This was the best I have ever seen this SDVD look anywhere. I'll be checking out more SDVDs as I go along.

I know sharing calibration settings has been a very "hot" topic as of late, so I'm reluctant to post these for fear of being flamed. If anyone has questions about specific settings, you can PM me.

I was a little hesitant (as anyone is) with my purchase and nervous about justifying it to my wife. My wife has been impressed and actually happy (go figure!) with the purchase, as well as my kids with 3D. I have absolutely no buyer's remorse, especially with the $200 discount and free $300 Samsung UHD video packet on its way.

I'd give this panel a 9.8/10. There are obviously some imperfections (I'm completely OCD about details!) I really don't know how this could be better without going OLED, but that will be at least a 50% mark up over anything we have now, and well beyond my "justification" range for a family room set-up. If I were getting this panel for a true HT room, I would definitely have gotten a 75" or 85".
Love to learn more about what settings worked for you as well. Thanks.
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Go back a few pages, I remember someone saying it was 600 x 400 on the 75". I will try and find it as well.

Update: Sorry that was actually the 85" that the user found it to be 600x400.
Do a search from a previous post from me as I listed my measurement findings which jive with manual when I mounted my 75 hu8550 normal vesa mount worked.
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I would never recommend someone to stretch their budget unreasonably but if you can I would go for a 8550. A sound bar would be just fine for your situation. As for the One Connect you wouldn't get it with the 8550 but you would just plug in your sound bar with an HDMI.
Not true sound connect does work on the 8550 but if you don't go to the trouble of using arc by connecting arc from TV to hdmi out on soundbar you will have to live with the volume adjustment boink sound on the TV
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The Sound and Vision review of the 55" HU8550 is finally online. The review LOVEs it. The review is almost gushing in some places. Interestingly, he was more impressed with it's ability to improve unconverted 2K sources than he was with native 4K content, despite admitting in the review that theoretically the unconverted sources shouldn't look better than on a great 2K set. He did a side-by-side comparison with the Panasonic plasma and came out liking the Samsung LCD, though admitting the Plasma still beat in terms of black contrast on very dark scenes.

http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...led-ultra-hdtv
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65HU8700 - quad core plus

Ok guys, I really like the curve and I am going between the 65" HU8550 and the HU8700 (can't afford the HU9000). So while browsing the Sammy webpage, I notice it calls out "quad core Plus" for the processor on the HU8700. The spec sheet calls out "quad core" though. So I chatted with technical support and he verified it is indeed the Plus processor. I then asked about the panel and he couldn't verify if it is an 8 or 10 bit.

So the differences between the 8550 and the 8700 are the processor, clear motion rate (1200 (hu8550) vs 1320(hu8700), and the curved screen.

Discounting the curve, is the processor and clear motion rate worth the added cost? I do watch a ton of sports, and notice people commenting on the hu8550 stutters but the hu9000 does not. Would the higher clear motion help?

Thanks,
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Has anyone tried the send to option from the TV. I tried sending a file from the tv to my laptop but want able to find where our went before having to leave. Had anyone tried this out.

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hey had Chads review been posted as of yet? Cant find it
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Arent these 2 different sets
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So have a question. I can get the un65HU9000 for about $1000 cheaper as a used model off a store floor. Do you think it would be worth it, or get brand new? It would still get the same warranty, as it is a floor model.
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Ok guys, I really like the curve and I am going between the 65" HU8550 and the HU8700 (can't afford the HU9000). So while browsing the Sammy webpage, I notice it calls out "quad core Plus" for the processor on the HU8700. The spec sheet calls out "quad core" though. So I chatted with technical support and he verified it is indeed the Plus processor. I then asked about the panel and he couldn't verify if it is an 8 or 10 bit.

So the differences between the 8550 and the 8700 are the processor, clear motion rate (1200 (hu8550) vs 1320(hu8700), and the curved screen.

Discounting the curve, is the processor and clear motion rate worth the added cost? I do watch a ton of sports, and notice people commenting on the hu8550 stutters but the hu9000 does not. Would the higher clear motion help?

Thanks,
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Does cmr even matter? Its 120hz
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So have a question. I can get the un65HU9000 for about $1000 cheaper as a used model off a store floor. Do you think it would be worth it, or get brand new? It would still get the same warranty, as it is a floor model.
Do you like the wY the store model looks?
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Do you like the wY the store model looks?
The floor model looks fine. I would be wall mounting it of course, was more curious about the life taken out of it, or hours it has been run.
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I know sharing calibration settings has been a very "hot" topic as of late, so I'm reluctant to post these for fear of being flamed. If anyone has questions about specific settings, you can PM me.
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I think that topic spun a little out of control. The gist of it was that it probably isn't right to share someone elses work/calibration settings without their permission but if you did it yourself feel free to post away. I doubt anyone would have a problem with it.
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Does cmr even matter? Its 120hz
I thought so. I thought that 60hz vs 120hz vs 240hz really doesn't matter anymore. It's better to go by CMR (for sammy, other manufactures call it different).

Someone correct me if I am wrong though.
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I thought so. I thought that 60hz vs 120hz vs 240hz really doesn't matter anymore. It's better to go by CMR (for sammy, other manufactures call it different).

Someone correct me if I am wrong though.
You always go by what the panel is capable of. Anything more then 240hz then it is a processor doing the work for the refresh rate. 120hz is far better then a 60hz.
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I was thinking about getting the vizio reference series but I'd only beable to afford the 55" I think (depending on the cost). Anyone have any idea about a 65" Dolby vision tv coming out soon?
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I thought so. I thought that 60hz vs 120hz vs 240hz really doesn't matter anymore. It's better to go by CMR (for sammy, other manufactures call it different).

Someone correct me if I am wrong though.
Ya that cmr rate is garbage. I dont understand why they dont use 240. They all have their own silly name for it. 120 still seems slow.

I actually saw a class action suit going to sue tv manufactures for lying about the hz.
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I think that topic spun a little out of control. The gist of it was that it probably isn't right to share someone elses work/calibration settings without their permission but if you did it yourself feel free to post away. I doubt anyone would have a problem with it.
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Do Hu9000/8550 upscale vudu content or does it stay at 1080p?
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So have a question. I can get the un65HU9000 for about $1000 cheaper as a used model off a store floor. Do you think it would be worth it, or get brand new? It would still get the same warranty, as it is a floor model.
Just a thought, I purchased a floor model from Circuit City in 2003. It is an early CCFL Sony XBR LED. I hope I got all that correct.

Point being, we still watch it.

It outlasted my 2006 Sony Wega Trinitron CRT. The 2006 was not a floor model and was purchased brand new.

I worried about it being a floor model, but, it did not matter to the longevity of the television. I bought the extended service plan, but, never needed it. Thank goodness, as Circuit City is long gone.

Maybe, because it is a floor model, you can see what, if any, problems it has. So many problems that I read about are noticed right out if the box or within a couple of months. This floor model has already passed those benchmarks.

Again, just a thought.

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Just a thought, I purchased a floor model from Circuit City in 2003. It is an early CCFL Sony XBR LED. I hope I got all that correct.

Point being, we still watch it.

It outlasted my 2006 Sony Wega Trinitron CRT.

I worried about it being a floor model, but, it did not matter to the longevity of the television. I bought the extended service plan, but, never needed it. Thank goodness, as Circuit City is long gone.

Maybe, because it is a floor model, you can see what, if any, problems it has. So many problems that I read about are noticed right out if the box or within a couple of months. This floor model has already passed those benchmarks.

Again, just a thought.

Thanks for the info. The guys I deal with are reputable and I don't think they want me having a bad experience. They are giving me some late in the year pricing.
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Do Hu9000/8550 upscale vudu content or does it stay at 1080p?
Upscales all non 4k native content.
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