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I can tell you I reviewed the Sony 79X900B and the Samsung 85HU8550 side by side for a week in my home and kept the Samsung. The 85" Samsung is superior to the 79" Sony is almost every way except for the sound (I have a surround system though so it doesn't matter to me). The smaller sized Sony 4K TVs have much better reviews though.
Agreed,I would take the 55/65 Sony over all others, but take the 75+ sammys..

Question for you, how does the 8550 look on 1080 material? Looks very soft to me when I view at BB. Hoping it will look better at home off of my Verizon fios
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I can tell you I reviewed the Sony 79X900B and the Samsung 85HU8550 side by side for a week in my home and kept the Samsung. The 85" Samsung is superior to the 79" Sony in almost every way except for the sound (I have a surround system though so it doesn't matter to me). The smaller sized Sony 4K TVs have much better reviews though.
Unless they were calibrated and set to the same light output side by side has little meaning.
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I noticed a big difference between the content at the store vs. home with Directv. Unfortunatley Fios isn't available where I live. I think softness depends on the channel and settings. Lower resolutions look softer to me which I think is good so it isn't trying to over upscale. I can tell the panel is not fald but the uniformity is almost perfect and with settings adjusted for evening, blacks are excellent. I have zero light bleed and just amazed with the set. I should have the UHD Video pack this week. 3D is pretty sweet as well and blows the IPS Passive 79" Sony out of the water. Netflix 4K quality is much better than Youtube I have found but occasionally Netflix won't load and requires the TV to be restarted, then it works and spools up to 2160 within 15 seconds or so.
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You mean 85? There is a 75 and a 85..

And do you say this because of the size, if you are talking 85?

I'm trying to decide between 79 9000 and 75 8550. Mostly worried about motion difference, 1200 versus 1400 clear motion. Wish the 8550 had 1400, then wouldn't be a decision..
it was a 78 vs the 85 inch. Yes it was at BB and I played around with the setting a LOT. I just couldnt get the 78 PQ to match that of the 85. And quite frankly it should be the other way around...
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They were not calibrated but I spent hours with both of them and tried to get settings as close as possible and had the same content at the same time. I wanted to keep the Sony, I liked the more luxurious look but the Samsung out preformed it. I also had the new Sony 4K player as well and returned it. I know some of this is subjective but I love the Samsung. The 79" Sony shouldn't even be compared to any other Sony models or sizes, it is very different. They both have great picture quality in brighter scenes and excellent colors but overall the Samsung we found best. In this size I think only the 85X950B and the S9 may out preform the 85" overall but they are double/triple the cost.
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It seems like all public calibration settings prefer movie mode. Anyone else find this setting a bit dull? Picture/color is not as vibrant as normal (dynamic is a bit too vibrant). It's all personal preference I suppose.
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What of you guys think of the clouding? This is on my new calibrated 85 inch 8550. I thought this was supposed to be better than the 78 inch 9000!
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What of you guys think of the clouding? This is on my new calibrated 85 inch 8550. I thought this was supposed to be better than the 78 inch 9000!
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That clouding is not too bad. Might try changing the back light and brightness
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That clouding doesn't look bad at all. I bet it'd rub out fairly easily.
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That clouding doesn't look bad at all. I bet it'd rub out fairly easily.

I've been trying to rub it for the past hour. Seems improved but still fairly noticeable, even during a movie where the dark part of the scene is at those spots!

Also, the overall black levels seem vastly worst than the 9000. Maybe due to the cinema black on it?

I'm kind if stuck because this is my third exchange. I had 2 x 78 inch and now this 85 inch. I think I'll never be satisfied.
Am I too picky?? What would you guys do?
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I've been trying to rub it for the past hour. Seems improved but still fairly noticeable, even during a movie where the dark part of the scene is at those spots!

Also, the overall black levels seem vastly worst than the 9000. Maybe due to the cinema black on it?

I'm kind if stuck because this is my third exchange. I had 2 x 78 inch and now this 85 inch. I think I'll never be satisfied.
Am I too picky?? What would you guys do?
Is smart LED turned on? Looks like it is off in that screen shot.

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Is smart LED turned on? Looks like it is off in that screen shot.

Yes it is on high!!
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Yes it is on high!!
It looks bad to me. I don't get any of that clouding with smart led on. Even on low. I can see a little when it is off when viewing at an angle.
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It looks bad to me. I don't get any of that clouding with smart led on. Even on low. I can see a little when it is off when viewing at an angle.
The one thing that I found was better than the 9000 is the motion handling. For some reason, it is much better than the 9000.
Also, given the quality of the picture I'm seeing with this 85 inch set, I highly doubt it is a FALD as the rumor says!! Not sure why it is so thick then.
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That clouding is not too bad.
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That clouding doesn't look bad at all
You guys are kidding right?

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You guys are kidding right?
You need to adjust settings if your cam was in focus. The light bleed is terrible, might be contrast issue.
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You guys are kidding right?
if you think that's bad, you would cry if you saw how bad my first 9000 was.
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The one thing that I found was better than the 9000 is the motion handling. For some reason, it is much better than the 9000.
Also, given the quality of the picture I'm seeing with this 85 inch set, I highly doubt it is a FALD as the rumor says!! Not sure why it is so thick then.
that makes absolutely no sense at all. It has a slower processor & lower CMR. If it's that much better than the 9000 (and the 9000 has excellent motion handling, for me anyway), then there's something else about the 85" that differentiates it from the smaller 8550s.

You sound difficult to please... I think edge lit sets aren't for you. Maybe wait for OLED, or break the bank for a 950.
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You need to adjust settings if your cam was in focus. The light bleed is terrible, might be contrast issue.
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if you think that's bad, you would cry if you saw how bad my first 9000 was.
It's just plain unacceptable. How can you enjoy a movie when the panel shows flaws like that.

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Hi all, I've been following this thread for a few months now, but I got tied up with moving, baby, etc. and it looks like the thread's exploded, so please pardon the questions if they've already been answered.

A quick overview - I'm debating between the HU8550 and the HU9000, but I'm leaning towards the HU9000. My initial concern with a curved panel was that I'm wall-mounting the panel above a fireplace/mantle between built-in cabinetry, and I wasn't sure how good it'd look with everything else flat and built-in. I think I've resolved that in my mind and decided a curved panel might look alright. My wife prefers a flat panel, but it's ultimately up to me. I'm planning on getting a Bose SR1 soundbar and connecting it through the tv via optical or coaxial (opinions on which one to use is welcome, but maybe that's for another forum), and controlling the volume through the tv. The tv is going to be in an open-layout family room with the kitchen, so no dice for any real surround speakers.

I know it sounds silly, but a big selling point of the HU9000 is the One Connect box. The thought of being able to access the inputs so easily is revolutionary in my mind. I will never have to get behind the TV and fiddle around with the connections again (especially if you do a slim mount - good luck!)! I've read about the 9' One Connect cable and I've chatted with Samsung CS online, and it seems that as of right now, you can't get an extension or anything longer than 9'.

For the HU9000 owners that have wall-mounted: is the general impression of the 9' cable is that it's sufficient to keep the One Connect box in the cabinetry to the side-and-below the tv? I don't get the house until next week, so I can't really rip out the current cables and see what's behind the wall or how long their current cables are (I believe it's long enough, but I'm no expert in installation practices). Also, does anyone know if the cable is CL2 or CL3 rated for in-wall installation? Since the TV is going above a gas fireplace, I want to make sure it can withstand some sort of heat.

Anyone get a HU9000 (or any curved panel for that matter) and wall-mount it over a mantle with surrounding built-in cabinetry and live to regret it for aesthetic reasons?

I'm not convinced that the curve will be of any technological/visual significance and whether it's just a marketing gimmick, and it seems pretty mixed in terms of opinions of how different/better a curved panel is vs a flat panel. I feel that I can see some extra depth when I'm watching the tv in the store, but I can't tell how much of it is real, how much of it is because of the marketing video they have on-screen, and how much of it is just in my head, hahaha...

The lingering questions I have about the HU8550: if you upgrade and get a One Connect box later, does it render all the built-in inputs inoperable (so your max inputs are either the TV ones or the OC ones), or does it expand your HDMI inputs and everything else (i.e. you'd have 8 HDMI inputs, 6 USB ports, etc.)?

Any opinions, comments, suggestions are welcome! Thanks, and again, please forgive me if someone's already answered some of these questions!
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The Sound and Vision review of the 55" HU8550 is finally online. The review LOVEs it. The review is almost gushing in some places. Interestingly, he was more impressed with it's ability to improve unconverted 2K sources than he was with native 4K content, despite admitting in the review that theoretically the unconverted sources shouldn't look better than on a great 2K set. He did a side-by-side comparison with the Panasonic plasma and came out liking the Samsung LCD, though admitting the Plasma still beat in terms of black contrast on very dark scenes.

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Great review! Now I just wish I would have gotten the 65" instead of 60" but I think it would have looked out of proportion in our living room.
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What of you guys think of the clouding? This is on my new calibrated 85 inch 8550. I thought this was supposed to be better than the 78 inch 9000!
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my 85 has nothing like that with the same "no signal" scene
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Yes don't quote me because it hasn't happened yet but were supposed to get an app when ready that will let us download for free from Samsung new movies for the Hard drive. I think they said 50 total movies by the end of 2014.


But even better news Life of Pi will be in 4k through m-go. They have a partnership with Samsung and they will be releasing (hopefully any day now over 100 4k movies). All you need is the m-go app on the tv. I am not excitied for life of Pi but they will have movies like gladiator and all the new movies.
This sounds too good and great to be true. I do hope it happens.
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It seems like all public calibration settings prefer movie mode. Anyone else find this setting a bit dull? Picture/color is not as vibrant as normal (dynamic is a bit too vibrant). It's all personal preference I suppose.
Oh yeah, it does look dull although I must say it is a lot better than my last set (C8000). I prefer standard and natural modes.
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It's just plain unacceptable. How can you enjoy a movie when the panel shows flaws like that.
What are your settings on the tv
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What of you guys think of the clouding? This is on my new calibrated 85 inch 8550. I thought this was supposed to be better than the 78 inch 9000!
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looking at that tv either it is a bad screen or someone did a poor job of calibrating. The light bleed on the words makes it seem like back light or brightness is to high.
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The newer one (400) has about 10 movies and 32 documentaries.


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I'll just watch whats on the free one and watch Netflix and upscaled Blu Ray content for now.
Youtube offers lots of 4k content at high bitrates, well worth checking out. Use something like the 4kdownloader to download it locally.
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looking at that tv either it is a bad screen or someone did a poor job of calibrating. The light bleed on the words makes it seem like back light or brightness is to high.

Sorry but I purposefully focused on the clouding part and that is why there's bleeding on the words. In real life, it doesn't seem as bad but the clouding is! I even notice it during regular movie watching.
Not sure what to do now, the 78 inch had clouding but it was not noticeable during regular viewing.
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What are your settings on the tv

I don't have them off hand but I used calman 5 to calibrate it. I also did my own calibration on the 78 inch and it looks good on that one.
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