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post #4051 of 10048 Old 08-15-2014, 10:52 AM
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I am on the same boat, have a 7 year old 46" xbr2, and desperately in need of something better & bigger, and am considering 85hu8550. I have 3 issues with it:
1) 10K price tag. I can pay for it, but it is not easy to justify paying such a huge amount. I suspect next year, same size is going to be 7Kish range, still high, but psychologically makes me feel better about it.
2) Can't do full 4K 3D. Instead, each eye can get upto 1080p original rez scaled back to 4K.
3) It is still not clear to me what the actual/official resolution is going to be for 4K content down the line. Say when 4K bluray spec is final, are they going to use actual 4K rez (4096 horizontal) or current UHD rez (3840 horizontal). If they go with actual 4K rez (1.9:1 aspect ratio), then these TVs are going to have to scale down that content.
$10k is definitely overpriced. But you can get it for $8800 shipped no tax from ClevelandAV. I think at that point it's only about $1k overpriced. I'm basing this on the fact that the Sharp 1080P 2014 models are $5k for an 80" and $7k for a 90". So it would be around $6k for their 1080p 85" model, a couple thousand more for a Samsung that's 4k and probably better in other areas is worth it I think.

I don't use the 3D on my current Samsung 60" 1080p so not worried at all. I wish more companies would take the Vizio 2014 model approach and get rid of 3D to make the sets cheaper personally.

I was originally going to just get the Sharp LC-80LE650U for $2700 and wait 2-3 years for the 4k standards and 4k 80-90 inchers to be around $5k or less. But I went to see the Sharp in stores and they looked horrific compared to the Samsung 4k's upscaled. Not sure if the stores just purposely make the cheap sets look bad or what. I also watched some Blu-Rays upscaled in 4k and I swore they were 4k sources, I couldn't even see the pixels at a foot or two away.

I wish I didn't need such a large TV but I'm moving to a new house with a long living room where you sit around 17 feet from the TV, a 75 incher would even look small.

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I am getting the 65 inch 8550 delivered and would greatly appreciate any advice on how to check the screen for any defects within the first 30 day return period...

Hi,


I think it would be great if the community put together a quick checklist for newbies on banding and dead pixels (best way to get a full white screen), clouding (microfiber cloth solution), flash lighting and light bleed, Netflix issues, and maybe list a few of the issues that some have faced (screws too tight etc.)


It would need to be someone more knowledgeable than..."I am not a smart man"


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Thank you so much for taking the time for the review. However, I'm left sort of confused as to how this TV ranks comparatively with the others you've recently reviewed.

Could you offer up an objective and subjective rating.

I'm certain many may be wondering is the HU9000 incrementally better or equal or worse than the flat HU8500 or if you were buying how would you rank with . . .

Sony 900B/950B
LG 9800
LG OLED

Which panel would make you pull your wallet out if you had a budget for them all? I'm torn between the 75" 8500 vs. the HU9000 78" and not because of the curve but purely is there a difference maker between the two?

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Love the review but left wondering how these LCD Flagships compare with your wealth of experience and keen eye? THX Chad!
It is awfully close in performance to the HU8550, with very similar panel contrast and color.
Compared to the Sony 900B, which I have calibrated a couple of and hope to write up a short report of soon, the Sony has much higher native panel contrast ratio than the HU9000/HU8550, but worse color.
The one I'd be most excited to pull out my wallet for would be the LG OLED.

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Thanks for the review Chad. It seems like it ended too soon though. Did you edit the tail end? I would also like to know how you ranked the 2014 sets that you recently reviewed. I take it you don't care for 3D as you didn't mention it. I would have liked to compare how bright the new sets are in 3D mode and which one was the brightest. Again, thanks for taking the time to calibrate & post.
I didn't edit the end; I had just spent a long time writing up the review, realized I had conveyed everything in my notes, and decided to call it a day.
My rankings page is up to date except for the HU9000. The link is in my signature.
I'm not a big fan of 3D, as I often get viewing fatigue from it. I do calibrate it for my customers if they are into it, though. I also still get preferences for some set's 3D performance over others, but I usually don't write about them.
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Thought I'd be taking a step back when I broke the screen on my Panny st60 but this tv has been very impressive, see how it handles hockey season... I'm guessing that's when I'll miss the plasma but for tv, Netflix and movies I'm preferring the 8550 over the st60!

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im interested in the 8550 but im a gamer and many reviews have the input lag high. Does anyone know if a firmware update has fixed this, if not my choices are the 6950 or the h8000
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Is banding normal on the hu8550? Is there a way to fix the banding problem?
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Samsung

UN105S9 curved panel 105-inch 21:9 aspect ratio back-lit LED LCD with local dimming . This is the most expensive model in the competition selling for $120,000

UN78HU9000 curved panel 78-inch edge-lit LED LCD with local dimming

UN85HU8550 flat panel 85-inch LED LCD back-lit with local dimming

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XBR85X950B flat panel 85-inch LED LCD back-lit with local dimming

XBR79X900B flat panel 79-inch edge-it LED LCD with local dimming


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Just picked up a Sammy HU9000.

anyone have a few links or calibration settings i can start out with before getting a professional to come out hear and set it up correctly for us.

Loving the set...dont be scared my friends...pull that trigger.
added the Oppo BDP103D fo BR and 4K up conversion from STB. so far so good.

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Just picked up a Sammy HU9000.

anyone have a few links or calibration settings i can start out with before getting a professional to come out hear and set it up correctly for us.

Loving the set...dont be scared my friends...pull that trigger.
added the Oppo BDP103D fo BR and 4K up conversion from STB. so far so good.

Thanks in advance

What size?
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78" curved
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78" curved

Nice. Any clouding?
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for the UHD video pack those who received theres how were shipped? fedex,ups,etc.. and was a signature required?

Just got mine the other day. It was shipped UPS and left at the door, no signature required. If you live in a bad neighborhood they won't leave anything at the door I think.
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not that i see anything i would call clouding
manufacturer date is June 2014.

is it something is should look out for/ what would i notice...reference pic?

was that mfr date known to have issues?

Calibration settings anyone before i get Bjorns out here...in 2 weeks. sux.
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not that i see anything i would call clouding
manufacturer date is June 2014.

is it something is should look out for/ what would i notice...reference pic?

was that mfr date known to have issues?

Calibration settings anyone before i get Bjorns out here...in 2 weeks. sux.

Actually you may not want to know how to look for it. If you don't see anything, just be happy and enjoy your set.
I had posted calibration of mine I think on page 38.
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Thanks man...appreciate your help.

good guys here.

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not that i see anything i would call clouding
manufacturer date is June 2014.

is it something is should look out for/ what would i notice...reference pic?

was that mfr date known to have issues?

Calibration settings anyone before i get Bjorns out here...in 2 weeks. sux.
If you can't see any flaws don't go looking for some because you will just find more and kick yourself why you did in the first place. I don't own this set but this is what I have found out from reading other members experiences.
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2014 Shootout for Best HD and UHD 4K TV:

http://hdguru.com/2014-shootout-for-...nd/#more-14099


Samsung

UN105S9 curved panel 105-inch 21:9 aspect ratio back-lit LED LCD with local dimming . This is the most expensive model in the competition selling for $120,000

UN78HU9000 curved panel 78-inch edge-lit LED LCD with local dimming

UN85HU8550 flat panel 85-inch LED LCD back-lit with local dimming

Sony

XBR85X950B flat panel 85-inch LED LCD back-lit with local dimming

XBR79X900B flat panel 79-inch edge-it LED LCD with local dimming


Competing HDTV models are

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PN64F8500 flat panel plasma

KN55S9 curved panel OLED

LG

55EC9300 curved panel OLED

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I have a very simple question.

Yesterday my 8550 65 inch set arrived and it works great.

However, I find that the analog audio out via the stereo mini phone jack at the rear is NOT controlled by the volume adjustment on the 8550's remote. I wish to route the audio to my (nice) stereo system (vintage components). I'm OK with inserting a D to A converter in the output from the 8550's digital audio port but don't know if that port's output level is also fixed in level or if it will respond to the 8550's remote control.

Any advice ... my objective, if I wasn't clear above, is to get stereo audio from the 8550 which varies in amplitude as the volume buttons on the 8550's remote are used.

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Actually you may not want to know how to look for it. If you don't see anything, just be happy and enjoy your set.
I had posted calibration of mine I think on page 38.
Found these from your post but from an older thread ..hope you dont mind posting them up. if you do i will gladly take them down.

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Here are my settings:
Daytime viewing:
Picture mode: standard
Backlight: 14 (you can adjust if in a bright room)
Contrast: 75
Brightness: 51
Sharpness: 35
Color: 48
Tint: g46-r54
Dynamic contrast, black tone: off
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Color space: custom
Red: R70, G0, B1
Green: R0, G57, B4
Blue: R0, G3, B69
Yellow: R49, G52, B2
Cyan: R0, G55, B64
Magenta: R69, G1, B53

White balance:
R offset -3
G offset 0
B offset 2
R gain -1
G gain 0
B gain -5

Gamma -2
Motion lighting off

Color tone: warm 2
Digital clean view, MPEG noise: off
HDMI black level: low
Auto motion: clear
Smart led: low
Cinema black: on

Wow, that was long.
Anyway, I'm still trying to fine tune my setting but that's what it is for daytime viewing. I'll post the nighttime ones once I get it calibrated for night.

Enjoy.

Thanks again. page 28 btw

ref: for HU9000 78"
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Found these from your post but from an older thread ..hope you dont mind posting them up. if you do i will gladly take them down.




Thanks again. page 28 btw

ref: for HU9000 78"

No I don't mind sharing.
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Actually you may not want to know how to look for it. If you don't see anything, just be happy and enjoy your set.
I had posted calibration of mine I think on page 38.
True! If you love, just love it and enjoy it!
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one last question...is there ANY WAY to get YouTube app t0 play in HD. I see no settings for changing res to 1080p like on PC YouTube site.

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sweet! I should be getting the UHD movie pack on thursday! Any updates on wether we'll be able to download future movies with the free pack?
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added the Oppo BDP103D fo BR and 4K up conversion from STB. so far so good.
Thanks in advance

Experiment before you make up your mind on the 103D for upconversion.


I have the F9000 w/2014 one connect box (same software as is on the UH9000). I also have the 103D (great player) that I used for Darbee and upconversion with the original one connect. With improved upconversion of the 2014 one connect, I now output "native" out of the 103D and do all upconversion in the one connect. However, you could easily prefer outputting 1080P and using Darbee at around something like HD 35. I personally would not output 2160P from the 103D because I believe the F9000 one connect does a better job upconverting from 1080P to 2160P.


Regarding running the STB into the 103D rear HDMI for upconversion and output to the TV. I personally don't think you get an improved upconversion/picture and running everything through the 103D (as a video processor) is a pain compared to running the STB for a "pass through" from the receiver to the HU9000. The 103D takes around 30 seconds to "boot up" and has numerous issues. Plus, assuming your receiver and STB are HDMI 1.3a (or higher), you get automatic lip sync running through the receiver. If you go direct to the HU9000 and use optical digital back to the receiver, you lose auto lip sync. If you use ARC for returning sound from the HU9000 to the receiver, you must deal with ARC "issues". Bottom line: It's so much easier to not use the 103D for STB upconversions; and I seriously doubt you will feel it provides better audio/video.
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Not without the 65EC9700 OLED in the mix. I would find it hard to believe this unit is not the king . Just not out just yet .

--- Also, the only true FALD set is the XBR-85X950B, the rest are primarily edge lit and a play on words with local dimming.
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Not without the 65EC9700 OLED in the mix. I would find it hard to believe this unit is not the king . Just not out just yet .

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Lights on corners

Guys,




Could you verify if yours HU8550 has the white lights at the corners, as these pictures when the room is in darkness:








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Could you verify if yours HU8550 has the white lights at the corners, as these pictures when the room is in darkness:









I had other issues with mine but this is very distracting.
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Could you verify if yours HU8550 has the white lights at the corners, as these pictures when the room is in darkness:








Is that light leaking from the frame?
Mine is not like that.

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