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post #4141 of 5146 Old 08-18-2014, 03:14 PM
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Hello, everyone.. I am new to the forums and recently purchased this TV (UN55HU8550). Had upgraded from an LG 47LX9500. Honestly overall I was disappointed in the new Samsung, I am no expert when it comes to TV's but I found that the darker colors had spots of a darker grey for a few seconds. These "spots" would come and go in the different dark areas of the picture. I used the calibration settings which were posted in this thread earlier but compared to the LG it just didn't look as good. Is it possible that I just got a bad set?
I'm sure you got a bad set. How long have you had it and where did you buy from. You should be able to make an exchange if you are still within 30 days.
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I'm sure you got a bad set. How long have you had it and where did you buy from. You should be able to make an exchange if you are still within 30 days.
I got it from BestBuy and yeah, i'm only a couple days into having it.
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I got it from BestBuy and yeah, i'm only a couple days into having it.
Were you looking dead centered at the picture or from an angle? If you are sitting at the sweet spot that should not been happening. Watching from an angle I don't know if that would be normal. I sit most of the time right in front of the TV or 1 or 2 feet to either side and my set looks great.

If it is indeed a defective set, Best Buy will give you an exchange.
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Were you looking dead centered at the picture or from an angle? If you are sitting at the sweet spot that should not been happening. Watching from an angle I don't know if that would be normal. I sit most of the time right in front of the TV or 1 or 2 feet to either side and my set looks great.

If it is indeed a defective set, Best Buy will give you an exchange.
I could see it from both infront and a couple of feet to the side.
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I could see it from both infront and a couple of feet to the side.


My 50" 8550 was doing the same when watching comcast/X1. Playing Xbox one, Wii U or watching Blu ray movies were fine. To be honest what fixed mine completely was switching to "Normal" on HDMI black level. I also kind of had to do the eyeball adjustments as the picture on Comcast varies channel to channel and show to show. This is the settings I have for watching comcast;
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Give these settings a shot, nothing to lose unless you are set on returning the TV.

Hope this helps you.
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Methinks we need to start specifying WHICH 8550 we are referring to in this thread, since the 85" clearly uses a different lighting technology (maybe not full FALD, but definitely not Edge-lit) than the rest of the lineup.

For example, the assertion that "8550 shows dark grey with letterbox movies" isn't an accurate generalization, as on my UN85HU8550, I get "almost black" instead of "dark grey."

I'd love to see a professional calibrators' comparison of the UN75HU8550 vs UN85HU8550 configurations. Heck, I'll host a calibrator at my house if he needs an 85" to work on (I'm in MA).
Don't have dark grey letter box on my 8550?... In fact I think the blacks are great and this is coming from someone who had a Panny ST60.

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System update 2150 just came out couldn't find any literature about it though
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Don't have dark grey letter box on my 8550?... In fact I think the blacks are great and this is coming from someone who had a Panny ST60.

Just switched to the 78 hu9000 from the 85 8550 and What a difference. I almost feel like watching an oled in comparison.
For those who have good sets, try this:

If you have the amazing Spider-Man 2, start it and take a close look as the sony logo appears at the very beginning.
Do you see a big halo around it???

I saw it on the 8550 and not on the 9000.
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Just switched to the 78 hu9000 from the 85 8550 and What a difference. I almost feel like watching an oled in comparison.
For those who have good sets, try this:

If you have the amazing Spider-Man 2, start it and take a close look as the sony logo appears at the very beginning.
Do you see a big halo around it???

I saw it on the 8550 and not on the 9000.
do you feel like you got a winner this time? it sounds like you are happy so far
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how can i access the service menu on the HU9000?

Thanks in advance people
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System update 2150 just came out couldn't find any literature about it though
Also looking to find, any info on this update!
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how can i access the service menu on the HU9000?



Thanks in advance people

Ohhh. Dangerous territory.
I have it written down somewhere. If I get to it before someone else I'll give it to u.
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do you feel like you got a winner this time? it sounds like you are happy so far

Well it is the one I had all along with the 8550 and I've been trying to make up my mind.
This 9000 has very mild clouding and some light bleed from the corners at times but it is acceptable to me. Much more so than the 8550.
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Cool Sammy vs. Sony

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i can't get a clear answer from Samsung has what pure color is. The best I can tell is that it's still 8bit like sony's triluminos +quantum dots colorist. It allows a broader width of the 8bit gamut. as all TV's now support 8bit color not all truly show the full 8 bit range and both the Sony and Samsung technology allows you to see more inside the 8bit range. But hey I could be wrong because there isn't much good info on either solutions


ok thanks for the info
hope for some more in depth reviews soon.

last years Sony W9 with triluminos and QD had really impressive colors that looked more natural than any other LCD LEDs.
Blue LEDS with QD was the key there to clean up the colors and get a wider gamut.
Quantum Dots did bring back the old Incandescent light bulb light from the CRT tvs.

i dont think Samsung can expand the color if they stick to the "white" traditional LEDs.
thats why i wonder what they have changed here.

if these new 4Ks from samsung can deliver those "Sony" colors im happy

I have last years Sony W900A and I've had the X850A and X850B, took those back because of defects and now I have the Samsung HU8550 65". After comparing it to my W900A, the Samsung has a more crisp picture (duh 4k upscale) and the colors are very comparable if not better and can be adjusted if needed. The motion rate seems to be quicker and smoother on the Sammy as well. Being said, I love watching both TVs as they have their differences, but I do prefer the 4k.
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question on seating distance. Looking at the 85 inch, I am going to be 16 feet away from the screen. Am I even going to be able to tell the difference between 4k and 1080p at that distance.

I keep telling myself yes but .............
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question on seating distance. Looking at the 85 inch, I am going to be 16 feet away from the screen. Am I even going to be able to tell the difference between 4k and 1080p at that distance.

I keep telling myself yes but .............
16 feet?

According to this chart, you're well outside the ideal distance for 4K at that size.



No idea how accurate or objective that chart is, but it's something to give you perspective.
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I was afraid of that.......... Looks like I would need a Vizio Reference 120 inch to even make a difference..... UGH
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16 feet?
According to this chart, you're well outside the ideal distance for 4K at that size.
No idea how accurate or objective that chart is, but it's something to give you perspective.
Not only that, the other question is, can you see 20/20 with or without corrective lenses ?? If not, those number on the chart dropped again......

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I was afraid of that.......... Looks like I would need a Vizio Reference 120 inch to even make a difference..... UGH
What is keeping you from adjusting the seating distance?

Man 16' is a loooooong VD in a Home, mine's at ten feet but the 17' VD from my kitchen/bar counter. Sounds like you have an estate home at that VD. Who knows if we'll ever see the Vizio as they've produced nothing but marketing puffery the past 8-9 months with zero UHD for anyone to see.

No one knows the price of the 120" Vizio at this point or when it'll become visible in the consumer marketplace. 77" Best in class LG OLED UHD debuts in October.

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I have 20/10 fortunately but I doubt that will still help.

And Westa, as much as I would like to change the layout, my house is an open design with the kitchen flowing into the livingroom. I have no way to adjust it :-(

The 85 WILL work in our bedroom though
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I have confirmation that the HU9000 VERSION : TS01 has a 10 bit panel and this is from samsung.

This BN95-01378A is a Genuine BRAND NEW Samsung LCD Display Panel, AMLCD;CY-VH055FSLV1V,10 BIT
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I have confirmation that the HU9000 VERSION : TS01 has a 10 bit panel and this is from samsung.

This BN95-01378A is a Genuine BRAND NEW Samsung LCD Display Panel, AMLCD;CY-VH055FSLV1V,10 BIT
did someone knowledgeable from samsung confirm this, or are you going off the part description?
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The 85 WILL work in our bedroom though
Lol, you must be single or not have a very active sex life, lol
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Well I called Some a Service tech in Samsung via a senior official to ask them if the panel is 8 or 10 bit and then he asked me to give the Version to which is TS01 on the rear label of the telly to which he said he will call and confirm. He called back giving me VH055FSLV1V 10 Bit to which I googled and got a confirmation of the same as well. So yes I know from Samsung that TS01 is 10 bit panel

Now all I want to check is if my panel version is VH055FSLV1V hehehe just for the records and I want to know how that can be done. Is it possible just to see the panel VH055FSLV1V in the service menu? How can a access it? I only have the smart remote with me

Please help!!!
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Lol, you must be single or not have a very active sex life, lol
My wife learned to stop arguing with me about tv's a long time ago
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Also looking to find, any info on this update!
Same nothing on Samsungs site. I called in about another issue and asked what the details were on the update. They said they didn't know any that the website would be updated in the next few days.

Also she said that there would be another update coming out on the 21st...
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Ohhh. Dangerous territory.
I have it written down somewhere. If I get to it before someone else I'll give it to u.
Ah okay thanks! I am talking about using the new egg shaped smart remote here. would be great if you can/ why is it dangerous/ would just check the version the turn it off and on is that correct. would not like to brick it
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Ah okay thanks! I am talking about using the new egg shaped smart remote here. would be great if you can/ why is it dangerous/ would just check the version the turn it off and on is that correct. would not like to brick it

But to get to the place where the panel version is displayed, you may change a setting without knowing it.
At any rate, I remember you can't do it with the smart remote, you need the full one.
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Ah okay thanks! I am talking about using the new egg shaped smart remote here. would be great if you can/ why is it dangerous/ would just check the version the turn it off and on is that correct. would not like to brick it
Tonton is correct, you can only get into the service menu with the full sized remote.

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Am I nuts???

On my 78HU9000, when I play back from my dish network dvr, it looks better and crisper than watching live. Thoughts?
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