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No dice, doesn't stay on long enough to do anything....only about 2-3 seconds.

 

Getting a replacement TV today from the retailer.....hope the next one is fine

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No dice, doesn't stay on long enough to do anything....only about 2-3 seconds.

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i read it was actually just software dimming on the hu8550.  

HDGURU (http://hdguru.com/samsungs-2014-tv-line-big-curved-ultra-high-def/) does say the HU9000 has hardware/software micro dimming (Ultimate version) that was on the F9000 and S9 108" monster; but HU8550 has the software only micro dimming (Pro). Samsung just generically refers to both 2014 models as UHD dimming. Hard to definitively know at this point.
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does it always upscale to 4k? got one and love it, but i don't see any place to turn upscaling on or off and no indication that it's happening

anyone know?

thanks

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does anyone know what is in the firmware update for the 8550 that i see on line now? didn't see any release notes


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Can i register for the free UHD movie pack? Where is the link?

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does anyone know what is in the firmware update for the 8550 that i see on line now? didn't see any release notes


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I guess there are no updates for the HU9000. Still on 1120.1.

This is my first Samsung TV. How often are these sets updated?.
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Can i register for the free UHD movie pack? Where is the link?

http://vp.samsungrebate.com/

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that's only for the u9000? What about buyers of the 8550?

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I am thinking about going to 4K probably HU9000.  However, I am very puzzled by the HDMI switching on my sound bar (B&W paronoma2).  Currently I am connected though HMDI cables.  I suspect the sound bar does not have 4K pass through. I understand that I can connect every source directly to TV and output via optical cable which is the last thing I would do or go to  new receiver route with new speakers.   Any comments or suggestions?

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I am thinking about going to 4K probably HU9000.  However, I am very puzzled by the HDMI switching on my sound bar (B&W paronoma2).  Currently I am connected though HMDI cables.  I suspect the sound bar does not have 4K pass through. I understand that I can connect every source directly to TV and output via optical cable which is the last thing I would do or go to  new receiver route with new speakers.   Any comments or suggestions?

I would suggest going with an AVR with HDMI 2.0 capability. You want to make sure you can switch devices which may output 4K at 24Hz, 30Hz, or 60Hz, as well as being able to decode lossless audio codecs (DTS HD-MA, Dolby TrueHD, etc.).
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does it always upscale to 4k? got one and love it, but i don't see any place to turn upscaling on or off and no indication that it's happening

anyone know?

thanks

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You can turn it off if you are playing a video using the built-in player. Under options choose 'original'. If it is not a 4k video, it will not fill the screen and will play at native resolution.
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Simply put if purchasing Samsung HU9000 and using current sound bar, will I miss something?  (no upscale ie bluray playback or TV show?  limited to 30 frames?, no video? etc.)  or any consequences? 

 

The receiver route at this time is not feasible (HDMI 2.0 just started to come out and better ones still a few months away, plus speakers and receiver cost after spending a fortune to get HU9000.

 

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Are the ARC and MHL HDMI's the only HDMI's that support 4k ? Are you saying that all the rest are 1080P at best ?
Does this Display not upconvert all HDMI inputs to it's Native 4K ?
I am a bit confused.


Glenee, yes the rest are 1080p and they upscale to 4K but don't support 4k. They may at some point be able to update them via firmware as Samsung is claiming 4 HDMI 2.0 ports. But i verified this info 6 times, different days, different people. Each time they had to ask someone.

4 HDMI on HU8550

MHL: 4K with HDCP 2.2
ARC: 4K with HDCP 2.2
The other 2: HDCP 2.0/1080P but devices connected will upscale

I completely revised my OP of HU8550/9000 and other 4K information summary you should know to make an informed decision and will keep updating it and i think before posting a question you should all read it as it answers a lot of the questions that are being asked and those that are not are answered. If then you need specific help afterwards post away :-). Link below:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1522081/official-samsung-4k-hu8550-and-hu9000-thread/660#post_24660619
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I would suggest going with an AVR with HDMI 2.0 capability. You want to make sure you can switch devices which may output 4K at 24Hz, 30Hz, or 60Hz, as well as being able to decode lossless audio codecs (DTS HD-MA, Dolby TrueHD, etc.).

The first gen receivers are only offering 4K upscaling and 4K/60Hz pass through and 4k/60Hz inputs. So all that money just for 60Hz pass through and inputs. Pass through is fine but that means your TV is doing the video processing as opposed to your AVR and its perhaps better processor depending on what you get.
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Glenee, yes the rest are 1080p and they upscale to 4K but don't support 4k. They may at some point be able to update them via firmware as Samsung is claiming 4 HDMI 2.0 ports. But i verified this info 6 times, different days, different people. Each time they had to ask someone.

4 HDMI on HU8550

MHL: 4K with HDCP 2.2
ARC: 4K with HDCP 2.2
The other 2: HDCP 2.0/1080P but devices connected will upscale

I compeltely revised my OP summary and will keep updating it. Link below:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1522081/official-samsung-4k-hu8550-and-hu9000-thread/660#post_24660619

All of the ports support native 4K output...  I have an HU8550 here and can output native 4K with every port, there's no upscaling going on if I use a 4K source. Without HDMI 2.0 however, you are limited to 30 Hz.

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The first gen receivers are only offering 4K upscaling and 4K/60Hz pass through and 4k/60Hz inputs. So all that money just for 60Hz pass through and inputs. Pass through is fine but that means your TV is doing the video processing as opposed to your AVR and its perhaps better processor depending on what you get.

For 4k/60p video there is nothing that difficult left for processing (no deinterlasing, and no scaling) . Noise reduction, etc., should not be an issue for 4k/60p video. The TV, given the quality of the Samsung, is the place to adjust functions like brightness, contrast, sharpness and color. Plus, the display is always the preferable place for grayscale and color adjustments; and the Samsung has a full function CMS and 10 point grayscale. I have a difficult time picturing what any AVR would add to the equation. It might be a different story with one of the cheap Chinese 4k's; however, this is a Samsung thread.
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I have looked, and can't seem to find it, but does anyone have the size of the stand footprint, 65 inch 8550?
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Amazon is excellent... to the point where I still purchase from them even if there's a better deal elsewhere. I had a few dead pixels on my first HU8550, contacted them on a Saturday and they scheduled  a replacement exchange a few hours later.

I would go Amazon definitely for online, unless you want the convenience of B&M (being able to pick it up yourself), in that case Best Buy is good.

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I was leaning towards Amazon too as they will deliver.  I think I will take a walk to BB tonight to take a look at the screen the order from Amazon smile.gif

Best Buy's delivery service is known to be better than Amazon, or basically any other dealer, as they all use third party services. Often times showing up with a single delivery guy, forcing you to help carry your own TV. Most on here are probably fine with helping, but might be good info if you aren't able to physically carry that kind of weight/size. Also never hurts to be able to return your TV without charge, if you decide you aren't a fan of the new curved design. Amazon charges for this, unless there is something wrong with the TV.
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I have looked, and can't seem to find it, but does anyone have the size of the stand footprint, 65 inch 8550?

Width in the back is 29"
Width in th front is 27.25"
And just a hair under 5.5" front to back

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Width in the back is 29"
Width in th front is 27.25"
And just a hair under 5.5" front to back
Great, thank you very much...
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I finally seen the curved version today....and it looks great, however, for me anyway, I cant see spending and additional $1K on it.(my wife especially cant see me spending the $biggrin.gif...)...so it looks like the the 65 inch 8550 for me. I was finally able yesterday, to view some photos I had taken with 20mp camera on the 8550. How can I describe.....my jaw just dropped....so did the salesman from Best Buy smile.gif That is one feature I am really wanting to use a lot....so I was impressed to say the least, and then some! I will order today, should have it Monday.
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I can also state that ALL the samsung 8550 ports support 4k... Just connected my pc to all hdmi ports and the tv switched to 4k resolution each time. I have a gtx 770 2 gbs. And can't play anything on high setting in 4k but at least all ports DO 4k. All ports also only do 30fps cause of the card tho. Not tv
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HDGURU (http://hdguru.com/samsungs-2014-tv-line-big-curved-ultra-high-def/) does say the HU9000 has hardware/software micro dimming (Ultimate version) that was on the F9000 and S9 108" monster; but HU8550 has the software only micro dimming (Pro). Samsung just generically refers to both 2014 models as UHD dimming. Hard to definitively know at this point.
Just so you know, I bet it really does not even matter. I know there are many, many play on words when it comes to this. I know for fact that Micro Dimming is nothing even close to FALD. In the past, I bet if the micro dimming was taken out of the units it was in, there would be "little" to no picture quality loss.

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No depth enhancer or PurColor on the 8550, like what's on the 9000. But if 1 has a Oppo 103D or Darblet you're just as good I suppose.

I see there's no 'Cinema Black' on 8550, does the 9000 have it?!? I really like this feature on my F8000!
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I imagine depth enhancer and purcolor is Samsung "market speak". In other words if the 8550 had a curved screen you would have the same.
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I imagine depth enhancer and purcolor is Samsung "market speak". In other words if the 8550 had a curved screen you would have the same.

Not from the multiple sources I've read (including samsungs own press release). the depth enhancer is software that analyzes picture and sets contrast to illustrate more depth, the purcolor engine uses magenta, cyan, and yellow to increase the number of shades of colors. When I saw the 8550 and the 9000 side by side there was a noticeable difference in picture quality and I don't think it was just the curve, the other software enhancements only found on the 9000 are likely doing some little tricks to improve color as well.

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Glenee, yes the rest are 1080p and they upscale to 4K but don't support 4k. They may at some point be able to update them via firmware as Samsung is claiming 4 HDMI 2.0 ports. But i verified this info 6 times, different days, different people. Each time they had to ask someone.

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I read your post. Do either of these have a 10-bit panel?
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