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anyone have instruction on converting hu8550 to JS mod?
What's the JS Mod?
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What's the JS Mod?
making your TV think it is a JS model which will enable HDR on amazon app
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anyone have instruction on converting hu8550 to JS mod?
HU7250 Forum starting at posting 389

Requires a SEK-3500U to do it.
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I have the 55HU8550. Is it absolutely necessary that I need to purchase the evolution box if I get Samsung's new 4k player?
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I have the 55HU8550. Is it absolutely necessary that I need to purchase the evolution box if I get Samsung's new 4k player?
In one word - Yes!

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Can you tell me why?
You need HDMI 2.2 with 2.0a which your set doesn't have, and is required for 4K transmission. 1080P, no issues without the SEK.
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That is not true. All the HDMI inputs are 2.0 and the HDMI 3 input is HDCP 2.2.
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That is not true. All the HDMI inputs are 2.0 and the HDMI 3 input is HDCP 2.2.


If you want to take advantage of K8500 HDR then you will need the SEK3500 since all inputs are HDMI2.0A and HDCP2.2

You need HDMI2.0a for HDR
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If you want to take advantage of K8500 HDR then you will need the SEK3500 since all inputs are HDMI2.0A and HDCP2.2

You need HDMI2.0a for HDR
If that is the only advantage that the kit will give me then I will save 400 bucks. I was told by Samsung that the evolution kit would not make my tv HDR compatible anyway. My main concern was just usability.
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If that is the only advantage that the kit will give me then I will save 400 bucks. I was told by Samsung that the evolution kit would not make my tv HDR compatible anyway. My main concern was just usability.
I think Members who have the 8550 + SEK may disagree with you. Octo core improves video conversions, gives a brighter and better PQ, and along with other improvements. Then why bother with the 4K UHD Blu-ray, (Save another $400) if you're only going to be able to enjoy part of it?

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What other improvements? Gonna go broke asking questions. LOL As far as the Octo core goes doesn't that pertain to the streaming services like Netflix or Amazon?
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What other improvements? Gonna go broke asking questions. LOL As far as the Octo core goes doesn't that pertain to the streaming services like Netflix or Amazon?

Just PM @Musician

He can share with you "the list" of improvements.


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If that is the only advantage that the kit will give me then I will save 400 bucks. I was told by Samsung that the evolution kit would not make my tv HDR compatible anyway. My main concern was just usability.
The 400 bucks you save will make your set obsolete by next years hisense junk.

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The 400 bucks you save will make your set obsolete by next years hisense junk.
I am a bit of a novice with all this, so please bear with me, as these last few comments have really caught my interest, as I am trying to get up to speed on whether or not to invest in the evolution kit.

Here is what I have: 2014 un65hu8550
Samsung 4k BD player (just got it Saturday)
In the market for a new compatable reciever.

Can someone tell me if I am correct in these assumptions:

HDMI port 1: 2.0
port 2: 2.0
port 3: 2.2
port 4: 2.0

If this assumption is correct, what additional advantages are there with the evolution kit? (I read here, lots of improvement in picture quality, possibly HDR, etc. , but I love my picture now, cant imagine it being much better )

anyway, my plan was to connect the 4K player directly to the compatable reciever (yet to be determined), then the reciever to the TV. (at least that is the instructions in the Samsung user manual) Which ports should I use on the tv from the reciever? I also have an apple tv, should I also route it directly to the reciever, or leave it direct to the TV?

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If that is the only advantage that the kit will give me then I will save 400 bucks. I was told by Samsung that the evolution kit would not make my tv HDR compatible anyway. My main concern was just usability.
Personally, I wouldn't even bother buying the UBD-K8500 UHD Blu-ray Player if you aren't prepared to spend the money to upgrade to the SEK-3500.

Might as well just stick with your HU8550 and existing 1080p Blu-ray Player and let it upscale to 4K just like your HU8550's YouTube app is currently doing without the benefit of the SEK-3500U Evolution Kit.

Here is the list of Features, Upgrades, and Improvements that @King Richard mentioned which are based on feedback from owners of the top-tier 2014 models in the 2015 Samsung SEK-3500U/ZA Evolution Kit thread.



With the upgrade to the SEK-3500U your TV will share the same firmware and Operating System as the JS9000 and JS9500 series (but obviously not the same panel characteristics).

In addition to the aforementioned Octa-Core and upgrade to full 18Gbps HDMI 2.0a and HDCP 2.2 on all ports -- the processing is further enhanced by the inclusion of VP9, a new version of HEVC, and the new H chipset which all contribute to the improved picture processing capabilities.

But hey, it's your money.

Have a great day.

Disclaimer: I receive no payola from Samsung for promoting the Evo Kit
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Beautiful, and using Green relates to Money!
Money saved by NOT having to buy the 2015 Model! So $400 versus thousands, and only about 5% less quality than the 2015s in PQ.
PLUS the Samsung and Future UHD Blu-ray players can get almost 100% of what they're capable of! Versus 55%?
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I know this has probably been posted before but I just got the Samsung UBD-K8500 setup in my system and was wondering if someone could help me with tv settings on my Samsung UN75HU8550 with SEK 3500 to watch HDR UHD Blu Ray disks?
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I know this has probably been posted before but I just got the Samsung UBD-K8500 setup in my system and was wondering if someone could help me with tv settings on my Samsung UN75HU8550 with SEK 3500 to watch HDR UHD Blu Ray disks?
As a heads up to other members, @sonofsoren PM'd on April 28th and over the course of the next week we had the following exchange posted below and now he has taken to cross-posting his request for help in multiple threads except for the obvious one.

Believe it or not this topic has been covered extensively in the
Official Samsung UBD-K8500 4K HDR Ultra HD Blu-Ray Player Owner's Thread thread.

If you are going to ask for help you could at least take the time to post YOUR settings for both your TV and K8500 UHD Blu-ray Player and articulate what anomolies you are having to see what others might suggest rather than making them start at square one!

Once again another apparent case where a member feels their time is too valuable to search and read threads.

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Musician,
I recently purchased this player and was wondering if you would recommend what settings I need to get it looking it's best. I will have it going through a Marantz AV8802A to a Samsung SEK-3500 evolution kit to a Samsung UN75HU8550 tv. Thanks in advance for your help.
Thank you,
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Sure.

Use Method 2 to hook it up using 2 HDMI cables in order to use my little BD Wise trick that has the player automatically set the Resolution depending on the disk.

Here ya go...


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Picture Mode: Movie *
Backlight: 8
Contrast: 92
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 5
Color: 45
Tint: G50/R50

Dynamic Contrast: Medium
Black Tone: Off
Flesh Tone: 0
Color Space: Native
Gamma: 2

Color Tone: Warm 2
Digital Clean View: Off
MPEG Noise Filter: Off
HDMI Black Level: Auto
HDMI UHD Color: On
Film Mode: Off

Auto Motion Plus: Clear

Smart LED: High
Cinema Black: On

* Make sure Menu > System > General > BD Wise is turned OFF in the TV settings


UBD-K8500

Picture
Picture Mode: Default

3D Settings
  • 3D Blu-ray Playback: Auto
  • Size: 78"
TV Aspect Ratio: 16:9 Original
BD Wise: On
Resolution: BD Wise
Movie Frame (24Fs): Auto
DVD 24Fs Conversion: Off
Fit Screen Size Size : 4
HDMI Color Format: YCbCr(4:4:4)
HDMI Deep Color: Off

Sound
Digital Output (Uncompressed): Bitstream
PCM Downsampling: Off
Dynamic Range Control: Off
Downmixing Mode: Surround Comp.
DTS Neo:6 Mode: Off
Audio Sync: 0 ms
HDMI Audio Output: Auto

System
Anynet+ (HDMI-CEC): ___

Note: A few of the above settings may be different depending on your particular equipment, screen size, wiring, and configuration choices.
April 28th @ 4:15pm
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Thank you! I can't wait to get this player up and running! I'll report back on the thread my findings.
Thanks again,
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Sounds great.

Now if you like my settings tell the world how wonderful they are. But if by chance you don't like em, keep your trap shut! Haha.
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Thanks for all the info on setting up the player. I had an additional question. Do you know anything about modifying a Samsung SEK-3500 with a UN75HU8550 to think it is a JS8500 to get Amazon and Netflix HDR content? I was looking through the forums for setting in the service menu but could not find anything specific. Thanks in advance for your help!
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Yep, I know all about the hack. Don't! Repeat don't.

It has the potential to brick your SEK and void the warranty on your beautiful 75 inch HU8550. In the last week I know of two guys who bricked their boxes. One managed to get theirs back working while the other guy is out $400 bucks because they had to go out and replace it.

At best it is only going to allow you to view Amazon HDR but eventually they may offer it to HU + SEK anyways. From what I understand there isn't much HDR content on Amazon anyways.

As for Netflix the only Samsung sets that are getting HDR from them are the 2016 KS series but from what I hear through the grapevine is that this will be rolling out to JS and HU + SEK as early as June.

Now that you own the K8500 player you might be interested to know that UHD BD is capable of over 108+ Mbps versus the aforementioned apps that only provide 16 Mbps.

Cheers
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Thanks for the tip! I think I will pass on modifying my sek-3500 to the JS model as you recommend. That would be great if they eventually allow the HDR streaming from Amazon and Netflix. Until then, I can enjoy the 8500 UHD blu ray disks and get HDR from them. Thanks again for the sound advice.
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Hello Musician. I was also wondering if you recommend using both hdmi outputs from the K8500, one for the sek 3500 and one for my preamp? I have a Marantz AV8802A with hdmi 2.0a and HDCP 2.2 compliance so don't know if/what benefits there are to running two hdmi outs. Also, saw that folks are reporting getting Amazon HDR out of the K8500 to their sek 3500s - any luck on your end with this?
Thank you,
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Running 2 HDMI's gives you the the following main advantages:

- you can use separate settings for your BD Player input. Especially important that Color Space be set to Native for this input and Auto for any other inputs

- as stated previously, allows you to have BD Wise turned ON in the player (but lesve it OFF on the TV) so that the Resolution is set automatically to 1080p or 2160p depending on disk type

Regarding Amazon, aren't you glad you waited instead of hacking your SEK-3500

If you have more questions about the Amazon app, you should probably post these on the K8500 thread for a couple of reasons. We don't get it in Canada and secondly, I am on vacation in Mexico.
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Got it - just wanted to contact someone I trusted on avsforums Thanks for your help! Have a good time on vacation in Mexico!
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As a heads up to other members, @sonofsoren PM'd on April 28th and over the course of the next week we had the following exchange posted below and now he has taken to cross-posting his request for help in multiple threads except for the obvious one.

Believe it or not this topic has been covered extensively in the
Official Samsung UBD-K8500 4K HDR Ultra HD Blu-Ray Player Owner's Thread thread.

If you are going to ask for help you could at least take the time to post YOUR settings for both your TV and K8500 UHD Blu-ray Player and articulate what anomolies you are having to see what others might suggest rather than making them start at square one!

Once again another apparent case where a member feels their time is too valuable to search and read threads.

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I did not mean to upset you and appreciate your help very much, and I highly value your opinions. I was finally able to set up my Samsung UBD-K8500 today and used the following setting that you provided to me:
UBD-K8500

Picture

Picture Mode: Default

3D Settings

3D Blu-Ray Playback: Auto
Size: 75"

TV Aspect Ratio: 16:9 Original
BD Wise: On
Resolution: BD Wise
Movie Frame (24Fs): Auto
DVD 24Fs Conversion: Off
Fit Screen Size: 4
HDMI Color Format: YCbCr (4:4:4)
HDMI Deep Color: Off

Sound

Digital Output: (Uncompressed): Bitstream
PCM Downsampling: Off
Dynamic Range Control: Off
Downmixing Mode: Surround Comp.
DTS Neo:6 Mode: Off
Audio Sync: 0 ms
HDMI Audio Output: Auto

System
Anynet+ (HDMI-CEC): On

My calibrated settings are:

UN75HU8550

Picture Mode: Movie
Backlight: 9
Contrast: 95
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 0
Color: 50
Tint: G50/R50

Advanced Settings Sub Menu

Dynamic Contrast: Off
Black Tone: Off
Flesh Tone: 0
RGB Only Mode: Off
Color Space: Custom
White Balance: Gamma: -1

Picture Options Sub Menu

Color Tone: Warm 2
Digital Clean View: Off
MPEG Noise Filter: Off
HDMI UHD Color: On
Film Mode: Auto 1
Auto Motion Plus: Off
Smart LED: Off

I did search through the various threads and did see where some people were putting the backlighting to 20 and contrast to 100 and turning off BDWise on the TV and selecting Movie Mode. Since we had different displays, I was just wondering if it was recommended to change any of my settings on my 8550 tv with SEK-3500 before watching my first UHD Blu Ray tonight (Revenant). Once I have watched my first UHD Blu Ray, I will report back up on how it looked with my settings.


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Just ordered my SEK-3500U for my UN75HU8550 at Samsung website! It's hard to find them but at their main website, still for sale!
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Just ordered my SEK-3500U for my UN75HU8550 at Samsung website! It's hard to find them but at their main website, still for sale!
Also on Amazon right now if looking for an alternative to poor Samsung direct ordering.
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I did not mean to upset you and appreciate your help very much, and I highly value your opinions. I was finally able to set up my Samsung UBD-K8500 today and used the following setting that you provided to me:

Spoiler!


I did search through the various threads and did see where some people were putting the backlighting to 20 and contrast to 100 and turning off BDWise on the TV and selecting Movie Mode. Since we had different displays, I was just wondering if it was recommended to change any of my settings on my 8550 tv with SEK-3500 before watching my first UHD Blu Ray tonight (Revenant). Once I have watched my first UHD Blu Ray, I will report back up on how it looked with my settings.
Nice try! How would anybody be able to recommend changes to your settings if they didn't know what your settings were since you didn't bother providing them yesterday? Nor were they privy to our Private Messages where amongst other things, I provided you with my settings which are used by many owners of the UBD-K8500?

If you have spent any length of time in the K8500 thread or, better yet, actually played a UHD disk in the weeks since aquiring your player you would see that it's not a matter of people "putting the backlighting to 20 and contrast to 100" -- rather this happens automatically when playing a UHD disk encoded with HDR.

As for BD Wise, I already covered this on April 28th by telling you that I use Movie mode on the TV and to make sure BD Wise is turned off on the TV by doing the following:

Make sure Menu > System > General > BD Wise is turned OFF in the TV settings

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I've a client that has a Samsung UN65HU8550 that has had little use but now out of warranty. It turned on one day with "barcodes" instead of english. I thought she was nuts but nope. In every menu and guide it displays as a series of vertical bars where the letters should be. I tried changing languages but the same result. I've reset and it does not change zip. It is impossible to connect to internet for upgrade as one cannot navigate without a language.n Comments, ideas, chants?

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I've a client that has a Samsung UN65HU8550 that has had little use but now out of warranty. It turned on one day with "barcodes" instead of english. I thought she was nuts but nope. In every menu and guide it displays as a series of vertical bars where the letters should be. I tried changing languages but the same result. I've reset and it does not change zip. It is impossible to connect to internet for upgrade as one cannot navigate without a language.n Comments, ideas, chants?
I would suggest calling the Samsung Remote Management team (I think the number is 1-800-726-7864). If they cannot resolve the issue they should at least be able to arrange for a service call (for a fee, of course, but it would be worth it for a TV this size that hasn't seen much usage).
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I've a client that has a Samsung UN65HU8550 that has had little use but now out of warranty. It turned on one day with "barcodes" instead of english. I thought she was nuts but nope. In every menu and guide it displays as a series of vertical bars where the letters should be. I tried changing languages but the same result. I've reset and it does not change zip. It is impossible to connect to internet for upgrade as one cannot navigate without a language.n Comments, ideas, chants?
Did you try unplugging it for 10-15 minutes? Also, firmware can be downloaded to a thumbdrive from Samsung website. http://www.samsung.com/us/support/ow...UN65HU8550FXZA

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Also on Amazon right now if looking for an alternative to poor Samsung direct ordering.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00V9Z6392/
Thank you for that! I waited almost a week after purchasing from Samsung website and zero response. Called them yesterday and cancelled order and reordered from Amazon! You're right. Their service sux.
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HDMI 3 or HDMI 4 ARC

Just installed a new S920W Denon reciever yesterday. It has (2) HDMI outs both 2.2 . One is also labeled ARC. Do I, or should I connect the HDMI out from the reciever to the HDMI 3 (which I understand is the only 2.2 port), or to the HDMI 4 ARC?

Also, connected directly to the reciever (all HDMI inputs to the reciever are rate 2.2), are a Samsung UHD 4k Bluray player, Apple TV, and Cable DVR.

All my HDMI cables are rated at 18gps

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Hello everyone,

Can someone please chime in to help me with an issue I am having? I unplugged my television from power since I was going to be out on vacation for two weeks. When I came back and plunged in the TV, the "Smart TV" logo came up and then the screen where you can see the programs available (netflix, amazon, youtube) on across the bottom comes up. It stays on that screen for about 10 seconds then it turns off for about 5 seconds then the cycle repeats itself. The remotes don't seem to do anything but the TV appears to be recognizing them because I can occasionally see a small light come on on the bottom right of the TV bezel whenever a press a button on the remote. The TV is 1 year and 3 months old, just a couple of months out of warranty. Anyone else had or has heard of this before?

Thank you in advance for your help.
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