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post #2161 of 3550 Old 06-19-2014, 01:17 PM
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New 85 inch UN85HU8550 coming next month for under 10k!!

http://hdguru.com/samsung-85-inch-ul...ed/#more-13905
So in mid July when we get our 85" units, things are about to get very interesting, just got our pricing on the UN85HU8550.........
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Will the HU9000 output full surround sound via optical through a soundbar? Anyone know?

None of last year's Samsungs were capable of this: http://www.cnet.com/news/20-tvs-test...o-a-sound-bar/
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For Ethernet to the TV, Cat5e should be fine. What will be more important is the router and network switches - making sure that you have at least 100Mb support, preferably Gb support for all of your network.


If you decide to use HDMI over Cat technology to extend the HDMI signal longer than the length of an HDMI cable, then Cat6 is the recommended technology. There are products available using a single or dual Cat5e or Cat6 cables to transmit HDMI over Cat cabling (dedicated, not part of an Ethernet network).


Unclear Cat7 is needed for any configuration with the current TV and Internet technologies.
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the screen 8550 is 12 BIT ?
The 9000 screen comes 8 BIT ?


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For now the UE55HU7500 carries four of the new HDMI 2.0 ports, making it compatible with native UHD material streamed in at frame rates of 50/60Hz with 12-bit colour rather than the 8-bit colour limit you get with HDMI 1.4 ports. In fact there’s even a new HDMI UHD Colour menu option that optimises the screen’s performance for 50/60Hz signals with 4:4:4 and 4:2:2 chroma subsampling.
Read more at http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsun...vo1yVLfbfU3.99
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No guarantee this works on these new tvs and I am simply pasting from here.

http://www.digitalversus.com/panel-s...ar-n15170.html

The manufacturer advises against for safety reasons. Whatever you do, don't touch anything: just read what it says on screen.

Press Info, Menu, Mute and then restart the TV
Select the Advanced menu and press 0 four times in a row

Then TT1270 takes up the baton and explains what the various information means

For example, if you find the following model: 40A1UF0C:

40 — inches, the screen size
A — panel manufacturer (A = Samsung; D = CMO; L = AUO; I = CPT)
1 — frequency (6 = 50/60 Hz; 1 = 100/120 Hz; 2 = 200/240 Hz)
U — panel (A = AntiGlare; T = TN; U = Ultra Clear)
F — resolution (F = Full HD; H = HD; U = UD)
0 — 1st, 2nd panel and so on (1st = 0; 2nd = 1 ...)
C — backlight unit (C = CCFL; L = LED; E = Edge LED)

One last method works on older Samsung models: a single letter on the label at the back of the screen, next to the model number. This code follows the same basic pattern as used on monitors for a few years now, with a few extra details. It's been updated by AVForums:

A = AU Optronics (AUO) A-MVA
B = Chi Lin Technology (CLT)
C = Chi Mei Optoelectronics (CMO)
I = LG Display IPS (LGD)
P = Chunghwa Picture Tubes (CPT)
S = Samsung S-PVA (S-LCD)
H = Samsung S-PVA (3D)
Q = IPS Alpha Technology LTD (Hitachi & Panasonic) IPS Alpha/IPS Pro

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I entered the service menu, and based on this chart my panel is made by Samsung. My 65HU8500 is made in Slovakia, and on the box/label the version is listed as 01.
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I entered the service menu, and based on this chart my panel is made by Samsung. My 65HU8500 is made in Slovakia, and on the box/label the version is listed as 01.
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No guarantee this works on these new tvs and I am simply pasting from here.

http://www.digitalversus.com/panel-s...ar-n15170.html

The manufacturer advises against for safety reasons. Whatever you do, don't touch anything: just read what it says on screen.

Press Info, Menu, Mute and then restart the TV
Select the Advanced menu and press 0 four times in a row

Then TT1270 takes up the baton and explains what the various information means

For example, if you find the following model: 40A1UF0C:

40 — inches, the screen size
A — panel manufacturer (A = Samsung; D = CMO; L = AUO; I = CPT)
1 — frequency (6 = 50/60 Hz; 1 = 100/120 Hz; 2 = 200/240 Hz)
U — panel (A = AntiGlare; T = TN; U = Ultra Clear)
F — resolution (F = Full HD; H = HD; U = UD)
0 — 1st, 2nd panel and so on (1st = 0; 2nd = 1 ...)
C — backlight unit (C = CCFL; L = LED; E = Edge LED)

One last method works on older Samsung models: a single letter on the label at the back of the screen, next to the model number. This code follows the same basic pattern as used on monitors for a few years now, with a few extra details. It's been updated by AVForums:

A = AU Optronics (AUO) A-MVA
B = Chi Lin Technology (CLT)
C = Chi Mei Optoelectronics (CMO)
I = LG Display IPS (LGD)
P = Chunghwa Picture Tubes (CPT)
S = Samsung S-PVA (S-LCD)
H = Samsung S-PVA (3D)
Q = IPS Alpha Technology LTD (Hitachi & Panasonic) IPS Alpha/IPS Pro

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Has anyone done this on the 8550 I can't seem to get into it

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Has anyone done this on the 8550 I can't seem to get into it
With the TV off, press Info, Menu, Mute and then turn on the TV. It should show the service menu in a couple of seconds. This works on HU8500.
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With the TV off, press Info, Menu, Mute and then turn on the TV. It should show the service menu in a couple of seconds. This works on HU8500.
Simultaneously or consecutively? And does it matter if you have quick start on?
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the screen 8550 is 12 BIT ?
The 9000 screen comes 8 BIT ?




Read more at http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsun...vo1yVLfbfU3.99
The tv can handle "material streamed in at frame rates of 50/60Hz with 12-bit colour rather than the 8-bit" not that the panel itself is 12 bit.
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Simultaneously or consecutively? And does it matter if you have quick start on?
Consecutively, quick start does not matter.
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I posted this past Sunday that we completely lost the picture on our UN65H9000 the night before. We could not even pull up the menu. When we disconnected the One Connected Box, the display showed that it was looking for the Box. I called Samsung on Sunday morning and set up service call for latter part of this week. I got a call form Precision TV (servicing agent for Samsung based on West Coast) on Monday asking for information on the problem and helped trouble shooting. Based on the call they sent a new/replacement One Connect Box to the service technician and scheduled an appointment for Friday (today). Technician showed up early, after calling first, with the replacement On Connect Box. He disconnected the old box and connected the new box and ... we are back up and running. So it was defective One Connect Box. We got the TV within days of its release, so we had been watching it almost every day for a few hours each day for two months when it failed. It failed when we had been watching the TV for a couple of hours and the screen just went blank.

Not happy to have had an issue, but very happy with the service.
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The tv can handle "material streamed in at frame rates of 50/60Hz with 12-bit colour rather than the 8-bit" not that the panel itself is 12 bit.
I did not understand " not that the panel itself is 12 bit "
Panel 12 BIT or 8 or 10 ?

I did not understand how the colors of the 9000 better if the panel 8 BIT?
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I just got a UN65HU8550 delivered, and returned the Sharp 80" UQ series I had been evaluating. The UN65HU8550 is just a place holder until the UN75HU8550 is delivered next month, and that will ultimately be "the final" TV I am settling on.

Been through a lot of sets lately, and each one had it's issues. Loved the Panny 65" plasma that has been hanging on the wall for years, but it was never good during daytime parties in a brighter room. Sucking down 650 watts per hour was not helping the case for keeping it, and I was itching for something new in the livingroom.

Wanted to get a UHD set, but did not want to tread water on size, so I tried the Sharp 70" UD1 set. Real UHD, but lousy software from last year (or before that), no h.265, not ability to play any 4K stuff at all except through he HDMI. The set I got also had the worst flash-lighting in all 4 corners I've ever seen (all my other Samsungs are edge-lit too, so my expectations are not unreasonable). No amount of adjustments including turn backlight all the way down would minimize it to not bother me. Just awful, and I consider that set to be defective, but the hump of death on the back of it (preventing from decent looking wall-mounting) ensured I was not going to try another one to see if it looked better.

I had a 70" TQ/SQ series sharp before that (as a placeholder until the UD1 came in). This is their 1080p set that can "play" 4K, but that resolution enhancement stuff never made the picture look any better than a normal 1080p set (a bit worse actually). I liked the set, but the UD1 came in, that set went, and upon returning the UD1, I was convinced to give the 80" Sharp UQ set a try. Decent set, but dark uniformity was a problem and clouding was still evident un the upper-left quadrant of the set in a darker environment. Also, the pseudo 4k upscaling "resolution enhancement" stuff just make the picture look slightly worse than with it turned off. Also, even though this set (and the TQ before it) are 2014 models, neither would play 4k videos from anything but the HDMI ports, so no awesome demos on my thumb-drive would play. Had to rig up a HTPC, and in the end, the pseudo 4K playback was meh. I know, I really just wanted to use these for 1080p, but had to see what 4k looked like on them and how close they got....

...Compared to a true 4K set, not very close. The Samsung UN65HU8550 that is hanging there now is just awesome, and has vastly exceeded expectations on all fronts. Of course, I have to sit closer to notice 4K at a measly 65", so I cannot wait for the 75" to get here in July. If my 75" set is as good of a panel as this 65" panel, it will be a keeper for sure. There was so little I had to change for an initial unmetered rough calibration (black-clipping, white-clipping, color-temp, tweaking some other features). My god, this thing pops, is bright, AND I can see no clouding as all whatsoever with lighting-sensing on, and minimum backlight level of 7 for when my room goes into dark night-mode (still some indirect lighting). Night and day compared to all three Sharps (when it comes to minimizing clouding on an edge-lit unit), and better than my other 4 Samsung panels (1 6-series, 2 7s, and an 8). So, this may be no 9000, but whatever they have done to improve the lighting on it over previous years sets, it's woking from my perspective. Blacks and contrast are an easy match for my plasma in a dark room, and I've never been able to say that until this set (C8000 got close, but no cigar).

All my 4k demos work just fine from my USB3 thumb-drive (one of the USB ports is USB3, so I was pleased with that), and they all look amazing except there is still compression evident in most of them (DL'd from youtube using utility), but I'll take what I can get, and it's not the TV's fault. Elysium trailer was just shocking good on this set, with the black space absolutely matching the letterbox blacks, colors just popping, and so clean and clear right up close on the TV.

The software and smart-TV stuff just blows the 2014 Sharps Smart Central stuff away, to the point of embarrassment. Even it's use of DNLA servers is FAR better, and it could play any of my content (from Plax via DNLA, XBMC via DNLA, etc.) (sorry, no it did not play copy-once SD Homerun Prime stuff, but had no hopes for that anyway). The Sharp would only play the h.264 encoded rips via DLNA, and ignored all the other mkv videos on my Synology DS1812. Now, this is kind of moot since I use the actual Plex app, and XBMC htpc to actually play the movies and don't generally use the DNLA route, but it's interesting to see different smart TV compatibility with these ways of streaming. The Sharps were not good at DNLA, and the Samsung was, if that matters to anyone. the Sharp UD1 (full-UHD) software was laughable, and it's obviously a generation behind the 2014 Sharp sets.

Netflix... Sharp's client was okay (not the full-UHD UD1 set, as that was a joke with an old client), but of course it did not steam the 4K Netflix stuff as 4K (c'mon, if you're going to sell it on the pseudo-4k, at least steam the Netflix stuff as 4k and not 2k). The Samsung set absolutely does, and it is a slightly overall better Netflix client as well.

My one gripe with the Samsung... ARC HDMI port is not recessed like all the other HDMI ports, and just facing straight out the back... really Samsung?! The one port I would use on this set, and it alone prevents flush wall-mounting?! Their engineers should be lined up publicly and all slapped in the face for that. Good thing their wifi is working so darn well on my 5-ghz radio side of router, because the ethernet faces straight out the back too. Anyway, compared to the hump of death (duobass subwoofer) built in the back of the Sharp UD1, I can live with this and have a low-profile 90 adapter on the way (because the 75" set I have on the way is the same in this regards).

I'll do a full metered cal on the 75" when it get's here and do a more comprehensive assessment of that one. However, Samsung's 2014 flat panel lineup is looking good so far.
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Sets on sale

The 55 and 65" u8550 are now selling at an additional discount.
The 65" is $3299 and the 55" is $2299. Of course the one I would like the 75" is still $5999
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Help. Set everything up on my 8550 I am gettimg sound through receiver but no video. I ha e the yamaha rxv577. Thoughts

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Has anyone seen the HU8700 in stores (65in seems like the only model being sold)? I think its crazy that Samsung came out with another curved set thats slightly more expensive than the 8550 and slightly less expensive than the 9000... wondering how it performs..

At the Amazon selling price of $3800 its $500 less then the HU9000 which gets you the camera, slightly thinner design, better processor, one connect box, and i guess the auto depth enhancer/pur color (i didn't see it in the description for the 8700) and $500 more than the 8550 which is basically just lacking the curve.. don't know if just adding the curve is worth the extra $. Anyone seen the 8700 set next to a 8550 or a 9000?

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Help. Set everything up on my 8550 I am gettimg sound through receiver but no video. I ha e the yamaha rxv577. Thoughts

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Nevermind I didn't realize that these new 18 GB HDMI cables are directional

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Hi all - I think this might be my first or second post here on the avsforums. I'm considering picking up the 60HU8550, but haven't been able to find much out there commenting on the TVs input lag for gaming and how well it performs for 3D. I'm not expecting to use the TV for professional gaming or anything like that, but it would be nice to have something that feels responsive. And 3D... I've been purchasing 3D bluray combo packs in preparation for owning a 3D TV, and would like something that performs well.

Any comments/feedback appreciated. Thanks!

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I just received my broken Samsung 65" HU9000 on my birthday. Outside TV screen looks perfectly fine without any sign of physical damage. When TV is turn on, I sees big crack appear at bottom of TV screen. Samsung field service said there is nothing wrong on the outside of TV and only take pictures for evaluation. One weeks later, Samsung denied my warranty due to physical damage and denied repair
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Have been through three Sony 900a sets but have been completely displeased with the banding and clouding at the top and bottom of the screens.

Have an opportunity to pick up a new F9000 with the new Evolution kit for $2700.

It seems to me that the panel and tech in the F9000 panel is the same as the HU9000.

I don't understand the big allure of passive 3d after seeing the HU9000 performance. Actually, I prefered the larger range of viewing area. The 900a had a very narrow range.

Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
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Frys electronic sells 65" F9000 for $2100 and 55" F9000 for $1500.
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Frys electronic sells 65" F9000 for $2100 and 55" F9000 for $1500.
They are out of stock in my area.
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They are plenty of stock in my area. I refused to purchased another samsung TV, cellphone, etc after getting burned by Samsung and denied my warranty.
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They are plenty of stock in my area. I refused to purchased another samsung TV, cellphone, etc after getting burned by Samsung and denied my warranty.
Did you contact your credit card company? I'm sure they will go to bat for you with that issue.

If not Samsung or Sony, who else makes a set worth my money?

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Did you contact your credit card company? I'm sure they will go to bat for you with that issue.

If not Samsung or Sony, who else makes a set worth my money?
Samsung denied warranty on my KN55S9C 55 inch OLED

I haven't contact credit card company because i purchased this TV on Amazon.com after 2 months. I don't believed that amazon should responsible for my TV; instead of Samsung. I cannot ship blame and fault on Amazon, which provide best shipping and customer service for over years. Based on Samsung field technician inspections and general people online, there is no physical damage but weird spot on TV due to bad OLED lightning or burn-in. Samsung denied my warranty based on pictures of Samsung field technician and ignored his comment on my TV
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Hi all - I think this might be my first or second post here on the avsforums. I'm considering picking up the 60HU8550, but haven't been able to find much out there commenting on the TVs input lag for gaming and how well it performs for 3D. I'm not expecting to use the TV for professional gaming or anything like that, but it would be nice to have something that feels responsive. And 3D... I've been purchasing 3D bluray combo packs in preparation for owning a 3D TV, and would like something that performs well.

Any comments/feedback appreciated. Thanks!
Can't comment on gaming, but my 65HU7500 (European HU8550) is going back because of severe crosstalk in 3D. This time I'd better go check in store before buying. You just can't be sure by just reading reviews - well, at least when it comes to 3D in this case.
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I am happy to report that my 60/8550 is flawless. No banding no bright spots and nothing out of the ordinary. Picture is representing blacks and whites perfectly and movies through my htpc with black bars are unnoticeable. To the point where if I am in a darkout room it looms like you are watching a smaller tv. Netflix no problems other than stereo setting which I cant seem to figure out and my arc turns everything off with samsung remote but when I power on it cycles the STB twice and powers that back off. Weird. Still playing with settings but fast moving sports like soccer are without comprise.

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I just received my broken Samsung 65" HU9000 on my birthday. Outside TV screen looks perfectly fine without any sign of physical damage. When TV is turn on, I sees big crack appear at bottom of TV screen. Samsung field service said there is nothing wrong on the outside of TV and only take pictures for evaluation. One weeks later, Samsung denied my warranty due to physical damage and denied repair
Return it to whoever you bought it from and get a different one. It's pretty simple. Generally if I buy something that doesn't work out of the box because I return it and exchange it instead of messing around with the warranty because the former is much easier to deal with than the latter.
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Does anyone have a guess what the Samsung 85" 8550 will be priced at in November?
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Does anyone have a guess what the Samsung 85" 8550 will be priced at in November?
Yes, but I can only tell you if you give me the winning lottery numbers for Sept. 30th.
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