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I have a 65F8000 as my everyday TV and just brought home a 75HU8550 and they are sitting basically on top of each other so I can watch both at the same time. I attached some pics so you can see what I am doing.

I have spent hours trying to get the HU8550 to look close the the F8000 and its still not there. The F8000 black levels and contrast is so so good I had hoped that the HU would be the same or better and its not. I was a serious Plasma guy until last year when I finally submitted and brought home the F8000 which for me was able to replace my VT60 and make me happy enough to enjoy TV on an LED set. The Colors on the F8000 are excellent and have kept us very happy and being in the business I just wanted the latest greatest and a little bigger. Not much to ask for right ?

I figured the HU8550 is a year newer , 4K and loads of new processing etc and has to be better. Well I am not sure the real answer as there is alot to this puzzle. The HU8550 and even the H7150 have a new set of colors to deal with. I use Natural as my test picture setting as I like it the most on the F8000. Natural on the HU and H are very different.. The Skin tones are slightly more real but the color pop is gone. Its much more sedate and just doesn't have the punch the F8000 Has. Is this by design possibly ? Maybe so ? I have a strange feeling samsung is possibly toning down their excited color and pop of the F8000 and trying to make these sets look more plasma like or lets set more Theater like.

I changed the mode to Standard which allowed for picture options changes and did some real tweaking and having the F8000 right above it I was able to match the color pretty close. Probably 90% to the F8000. I just wanted to see if I could make it look like a F8000 on Natural. It made me feel a little better that I was able to get the picture close to the F although maybe I could get used the HU..

I am in a situation where I want to move my F8000 out and move up to the 75" HU or even do the 78 curved 9000 and I am totally up in the air as to what to do. I had hoped that the HU would have blown away my F8000 but it doesn't. Is it because 4K tv's just dont look as good as high end 2K tv's ? I dont know but that is what it seems like to me. I want bigger and better and 4K would be nice although, considering 99.9999 percent of what I watch will be 2K for now, the 4K thing doesn't really help as you see here. Why do we need 4K sets for the hope we will have a single show to watch in 4K like house of cards from netflix ? I am not sure but people seems to want them. Would I rather have an Awesome 2K set thats a newer model with the Quad processor and split screen etc ? YES

Bottom line - The 75HU8550 for the price might be a good choice as I get the Size I want and the Quad processor and faster apps etc but I have to learn to live with this new picture level which is not as good as last years tvs.

Suggestions welcome

I am going to look at the Sony XBR70X850B also but I had the 850A last year for about 10 minutes and it was the worst TV I have ever seen. Hoping they fixed it.

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Sorry for the window glare I just shot the daytime photo so you guys can see how i have them setup..
Excellent recap. You have a great ability to compare them. I just purchase the 65hu8550 and am not sold on it yet. I ultimately want a 70" or 75" and am totally considering forgoing the 4k for the best picture and trying the 75" 8000 or the 70" Sony 850b xbr 4k or kdl 2k.

Are either one if those sets better at glare reduction. My biggest problem is an extremely bright space which contributes greatly to the tv enjoyment.
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You can change the sync on the TV
Press, menu, sound, additonal settings, Audio Delay <--- Turn the audio delay way down. Default is 70. Mine is like close to zero for NF.
Made a mistake. I wasn't home when I wrote that. The default audio delay is 230ms. I had it at 40. Not near zero.
Auto lip sync on my Denon 3312 AVR does not work for Netflix app on the smart hub with ARC. I have to set the audio delay on the TV to 40 for good lip sync on Netflix.
My TV does not have any auto lip sync feature. TheHU9000 has it?

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Well I finally pulled this 65-inch monster out of the box and got it set up. Just now fooling around with picture settings. I got a good panel - no light leakage at the corners, no cloudy or dark spots and no banding. Yeah.

4K looks spectacular. I got this content from Youtube and it looks great. The blacks are also suprisingly good for an LCD panel. But the biggest surprise of all was the set's OTA tuner and its sensitivity. It pulled in all of the stations from Mt. Wilson, including stations I NEVER was able to get such as ABC 7.1 and KCOP 13.1 at my location. No other tuner captured these, including Sony and DTV tuners. Way to go Samsung!!!
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Soap Opera

Anyone know what picture settings get you the soap opera effect? I've been wanting to try and switch between the two to see what I really like.
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If by any case, you are using optical digital, automatic sync features don't work. Must be HDMI 1.3 or higher.
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Hey there, been reading this thread for the last few days. So, Best Buy exchanged my 55C8000. I decided to upgrade and went with the 60" 8550 and only paid the difference of $850 with taxes. I thought it was a deal considering my set was 4 years old and I had set up an appointment with Geek Squad the very last day before the warranty expired . At first I thought the C8000 looked much better but after playing with the settings I'm blown away. So glad to own this set. I've had it for three days it's keeping me up until 3 or 4am just so I can keep enjoying how awesome the picture is. I noticed a huge difference from my old set streaming on Netflix (PS3) HD content. I had my doubts but it does a great job upscaling.
I have made it my goal to just enjoy this set. It is really a lot easier to enjoy it than to try to finds faults in it although it all looks great
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I have a couple of pairs of SSG-3500CR's which are officially only compatible with the D and E gen TV's. I used them with my F8500 but had some issues. Anyone know if they will work with my HU9000 when it turns up or should I go order some newer rechargeable 3D glasses?

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Anyone know what picture settings get you the soap opera effect? I've been wanting to try and switch between the two to see what I really like.
Use a custom setting under Auto Motion Plus. Set blur at 10 and judder at 5. You will get too much judder at zero. Anything higher than 5 can give the soap opera effect.

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I was wondering if anyone has any dead pixels on there 8550.
I just noticed yesterday that the TV has 2-3 dead pixels close to each other. I only notice it on a pure white screen. I do not know what to do, my eye is now drawn to it. Has anyone had issues with dead pixel on there 8550? Will samsung come out and swap the TV or do I have to lug it back to the store? I really do not want to have to take it down , pack it up and take the risk of damaging it on the way to the store.
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I was wondering if anyone has any dead pixels on there 8550.
I just noticed yesterday that the TV has 2-3 dead pixels close to each other. I only notice it on a pure white screen. I do not know what to do, my eye is now drawn to it. Has anyone had issues with dead pixel on there 8550? Will samsung come out and swap the TV or do I have to lug it back to the store? I really do not want to have to take it down , pack it up and take the risk of damaging it on the way to the store.
You have to check warranty policy, as to the number and location of dead pixels, i.e. center, corner, etc.
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Well I finally pulled this 65-inch monster out of the box and got it set up. Just now fooling around with picture settings. I got a good panel - no light leakage at the corners, no cloudy or dark spots and no banding. Yeah.

4K looks spectacular. I got this content from Youtube and it looks great. The blacks are also suprisingly good for an LCD panel. But the biggest surprise of all was the set's OTA tuner and its sensitivity. It pulled in all of the stations from Mt. Wilson, including stations I NEVER was able to get such as ABC 7.1 and KCOP 13.1 at my location. No other tuner captured these, including Sony and DTV tuners. Way to go Samsung!!!

Great to hear DeanS that your happy with your 8550

Which panel version do you have
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Hey guys planning on buying a hu8550 65inch

Question is does anyone know how much wall clearance is recommended for it when wall mounting for ventilation etc (as I cannot find the answer in the online manual)

The wall mount I'm interested in is the Vogels thin305 which is 15mm from the wall

Luckily all the connections I need are on the side otherwise that would suck

Stupid samsung
Anyone have any idea ???
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I was wondering if anyone has any dead pixels on there 8550.
I just noticed yesterday that the TV has 2-3 dead pixels close to each other. I only notice it on a pure white screen. I do not know what to do, my eye is now drawn to it. Has anyone had issues with dead pixel on there 8550? Will samsung come out and swap the TV or do I have to lug it back to the store? I really do not want to have to take it down , pack it up and take the risk of damaging it on the way to the store.
Here in Australia I had a E8000 plasma and F8500 plasma replaced with only two dead pixels each. Apparently Samsung over here believes in zero dead pixels on high end displays (I personally can live with dark dead pixels, but not bright stuck pixels). It's worth calling your countries Samsung customer support number and discussing it with them.

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Samsung's own Mini Wall Mount Kit puts the TV really close to the wall, less than an inch at off the wall. I'd go with that as a minimum, but more for cabling than airflow.

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Anyone have any idea ???

Worth noting the HU8550's ARC HDMI port is on the back of the TV vs side back so flush mounting is difficult. I would recommend an HDMI cable with a 90 degree elbow if you aren't using the IR extender as it sits right under the HDMI input or a 270 degree if you are going to use the IR extender or just generally hate blocking any connections. If you look at a picture of the back of the 8550 you will see what I am talking about.

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Worth noting the HU8550's ARC HDMI port is on the back of the TV vs side back so flush mounting is difficult. I would recommend an HDMI cable with a 90 degree elbow if you aren't using the IR extender as it sits right under the HDMI input or a 270 degree if you are going to use the IR extender or just generally hate blocking any connections. If you look at a picture of the back of the 8550 you will see what I am talking about.

Yeah I used a 90 degree port saver with my HDMI cable on that port when wall mounting mine. (See above post pics)
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Nice Prawst! Nice and clean.
That AVR has no room to breathe.

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Nice Prawst! Nice and clean.
That AVR has no room to breathe.
Yeaaaaah I'm a little worried about that. I've stuck my hand in that bay and its not too warm in there. The warmest bays are the one with the Xbox One and the Cable Box. (why does a cable box put out so much heat??)


But yeah if there's a low noise cooling solution anyone knows of I'd love to hear about it. I could just make the hole in the back of the unit even bigger to allow for more venting.. though the thought of unhooking the AVR makes me cringe. Was so much work!
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Well I finally pulled this 65-inch monster out of the box and got it set up. Just now fooling around with picture settings. I got a good panel - no light leakage at the corners, no cloudy or dark spots and no banding. Yeah.

4K looks spectacular. I got this content from Youtube and it looks great. The blacks are also suprisingly good for an LCD panel. But the biggest surprise of all was the set's OTA tuner and its sensitivity. It pulled in all of the stations from Mt. Wilson, including stations I NEVER was able to get such as ABC 7.1 and KCOP 13.1 at my location. No other tuner captured these, including Sony and DTV tuners. Way to go Samsung!!!
Samsung doesn't treart OTA TV like a step child. Sony and Panasonic skimp on features for OTA TV. Samsung lets you see what programs are showing down the road for example where the other manufactures don't and has other features the others don't.
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Anyone know what picture settings get you the soap opera effect? I've been wanting to try and switch between the two to see what I really like.
Standard is a clean soap effect.
Smooth is a tiny bit sharper than standard but has small ghosting.

Clear and custom with led engaged will give little to no soap effect.

Custom is as mentioned in previous post.

I use standard.
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Hi all.

I'm coming from aa defective F8000 which samsung exchanged for an HU8550. I am concerned that I have a defective unit again for 2 reasons. First of all Netflix does not load up. As soon as I click on the icon the screen goes black but does not load up. Secondly I can not get the brightness anywhere close to what my F8000 could do.

Thanks for your replies ahead of time.
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Hey there, been reading this thread for the last few days. So, Best Buy exchanged my 55C8000. I decided to upgrade and went with the 60" 8550 and only paid the difference of $850 with taxes. I thought it was a deal considering my set was 4 years old and I had set up an appointment with Geek Squad the very last day before the warranty expired . At first I thought the C8000 looked much better but after playing with the settings I'm blown away. So glad to own this set. I've had it for three days it's keeping me up until 3 or 4am just so I can keep enjoying how awesome the picture is. I noticed a huge difference from my old set streaming on Netflix (PS3) HD content. I had my doubts but it does a great job upscaling.
I have made it my goal to just enjoy this set. It is really a lot easier to enjoy it than to try to finds faults in it although it all looks great
Sometimes those extended warranties are worth the cost
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I was wondering if anyone has any dead pixels on there 8550.
I just noticed yesterday that the TV has 2-3 dead pixels close to each other. I only notice it on a pure white screen. I do not know what to do, my eye is now drawn to it. Has anyone had issues with dead pixel on there 8550? Will samsung come out and swap the TV or do I have to lug it back to the store? I really do not want to have to take it down , pack it up and take the risk of damaging it on the way to the store.


I am having a guy from PC Richards looking at it on Wednesday. I called my friends that sold me the TV and he said to call PC Richards instead of Samsung to have them come out. He also asked me if I had the box and told me to just return it but It is heavy and I have it mounted and secured to the way and do not want to go through trying to get it to the store without damaging it. If the tech says they will not replace it then I will exchange it to the store.. I feel bad going through PC Richards because this is a Samsung issue not PC Richards but my friend who is the manager at C Richards said they will return it to Samsung.
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Sometimes those extended warranties are worth the cost
Indeed they are. I almost did not care but before leaving home the day before the warranty expired I thought "I should just set up an appointment and see if they still can do something". My C8000 had some clouding that I lived up with for two years. So, paying that $ difference for 5" more, plus 4k when I almost did not care was definitely an excellent feeling.
By the way, Best Buy service was excellent at my local store. I was not expecting that at all. I thought I would walk out with a H7150 and maybe I could pay the difference to get the 55H8000. So I'm digging it!
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Sometimes those extended warranties are worth the cost

I bought one with a Sony XBR1 (SXRD) and during the term of the extended warranty they replaced the light engine three times. Don't know what it really cost; but the paperwork they gave me each time showed that it would have cost around $2,000 per repair. They also replaced a couple other parts.


That was my first ever purchase of an extended warranty. I lucked out; but now I'm a believer!
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I bought one with a Sony XBR1 (SXRD) and during the term of the extended warranty they replaced the light engine three times. Don't know what it really cost; but the paperwork they gave me each time showed that it would have cost around $2,000 per repair. They also replaced a couple other parts.


That was my first ever purchase of an extended warranty. I lucked out; but now I'm a believer!
I have never once purchased an extended warranty. I have on occasion needed to replace something after the warranty expired, but by turning down all of them I have more then made out...it is after all, how insurance companies make their money.
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I bought one with a Sony XBR1 (SXRD) and during the term of the extended warranty they replaced the light engine three times. Don't know what it really cost; but the paperwork they gave me each time showed that it would have cost around $2,000 per repair. They also replaced a couple other parts.


That was my first ever purchase of an extended warranty. I lucked out; but now I'm a believer!
Sony extended the SXRD customer warranty coverage due to the light engine defect. I had Sony replace the light engine twice in my SXRD, at no cost to me, all substantially outside of the original warranty period.

I don't think your extended warranty paid a dime for those light engine replacements, and they likely got Sony to fix it as it was a well-known and well-documented product design defect.
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Sony extended the SXRD customer warranty coverage due to the light engine defect. I had Sony replace the light engine twice in my SXRD, at no cost to me, all substantially outside of the original warranty period.

I don't think your extended warranty paid a dime for those light engine replacements, and they likely got Sony to fix it as it was a well-known and well-documented product design defect.

I had forgotten that; but I'm sure you are right; and it's probably why Sears was always so happy to come out and do it. Unfortunately, I had a professional calibration on the original and first replacement. Finally realized that was throwing money away. Bought a meter and software and "hacked" my way through calibrations on the last two.


For my primary HD TV, I've had a Mitsubishi RPTV, a Sony XBR1, a Panasonic vt25 plasma, and now a Samsung F9000. The Sony was the most expensive and most disappointing.
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If you use an AMEX card they double the warranty up to an additional year for no charge.
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Is the warranty 1 year in the US? It is 2 years in Europe.
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