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Is the warranty 1 year in the US? It is 2 years in Europe.
Yea 1 year here in the US. Some European markets have an advantage with warranties when it comes to electronics - but I think we end up saving some $ on the sale price so maybe it evens out in the long run..

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Has anyone seen the 78" HU9000? How does it compare to the 65" model?
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Hey guys,

I have a question about the HU and the one connect box. On my wall I only wired in power, ethernet and one HDMI. So I'm thinking now that my one connect box is going to have to be co-located at the TV given the one connect cable is a proprietary cable. Is there anyway to mount the one connect on the TV itself short of me getting some velcro? I'm really going for a clean finish on the wall and would hate to have the box laying around messing things up.

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I have a question about the HU and the one connect box. On my wall I only wired in power, ethernet and one HDMI. So I'm thinking now that my one connect box is going to have to be co-located at the TV given the one connect cable is a proprietary cable. Is there anyway to mount the one connect on the TV itself short of me getting some velcro? I'm really going for a clean finish on the wall and would hate to have the box laying around messing things up.

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Just one thing of advice. Elevate the one connect box. I have my box about an inch off of the surface. The unit gets extremely hot. So where ever you put it make sure the one connect box is not flush. Not just laying on the surface or up on the wall.

Literally elevate the box. This will help with heat tremendously.
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If you use an AMEX card they double the warranty up to an additional year for no charge.

Really? I just bought my 60HU8550 with an amex. fantastic!
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Hey guys,


So I'm using a 75HU8550 with a Onkyo TX-NR636. When running smart hub apps like Netflix and having the audio go over ARC to the receiver I'm not getting full surround sound. Just front speakers and bass. Any ideas why that would be happening? Not sure if its something with the TV or the receiver.


Also not getting surround sound via my cable box which is wired via: Cable box > xbox one hdmi in > xbox > onkyo avr > TV.
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Sonos Playbar and Purchasing a 65" 8550

Hi Folks,
I'm moving home and changing from my old Sony Projector / Onkyo receiver setup to a Samsung Samsung UN65HU8550 with Sonos Playbar, 2 x Play 3's and the Subwoofer.

Have a few questions for the guru's here.

1) PRICING - Seems to be a big variance between dealers. Amazon / Best Buy all seem to be in the $3297 range at the moment with online outlets quoting nearly a thousand cheaper. Has anyone had good success with one of these cheaper outlets or is it too good to be true?

2) SONOS QUALITY - While I'm not a music purist I am interested in those who have the 8550 set up as a surround system with the Sonos Playbar and 5.1 setup above. Am I going to notice a big difference from a dedicated setup using my Onkyo TX-SR608 Amp or is is negligible?

3) 5.1 pass through from HDMI to Optical? I believe that the 8550 passes through to the optical in of the Playbar but I think I also read that you want the component e.g. Xbox One for Bluray to pass through directly? Any clarification here appreciated.

4) Any alternatives to the 8500 I should consider?

Thanks!
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Hey guys,


So I'm using a 75HU8550 with a Onkyo TX-NR636. When running smart hub apps like Netflix and having the audio go over ARC to the receiver I'm not getting full surround sound. Just front speakers and bass. Any ideas why that would be happening? Not sure if its something with the TV or the receiver.


Also not getting surround sound via my cable box which is wired via: Cable box > xbox one hdmi in > xbox > onkyo avr > TV.
While playing the content from Netflix or other apps go into TV menu sounds and switch it to DD.
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While playing the content from Netflix or other apps go into TV menu sounds and switch it to DD.
Worth noting , the 8550 Netflix and Hulu Plus apps only output stereo right now. No clue when it will get fixed but the work around is to choose PCM and then let your receiver fake surround with Dolby PLIIx or DTS Neo6 if you have them. As far as the cable box goes, make sure you have it set to output Dolby in its setting menu. If it is PCM, most set top boxes and TVs only output two channel PCM.

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While playing the content from Netflix or other apps go into TV menu sounds and switch it to DD.

Yeah that's already set. There is another option about dolby compression with Line and RL as options. What is that about?
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Worth noting , the 8550 Netflix and Hulu Plus apps only output stereo right now. No clue when it will get fixed but the work around is to choose PCM and then let your receiver fake surround with Dolby PLIIx or DTS Neo6 if you have them. As far as the cable box goes, make sure you have it set to output Dolby in its setting menu. If it is PCM, most set top boxes and TVs only output two channel PCM.

Ah well that explains that. Hopefully those apps get patched in the near future.
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Sony extended the SXRD customer warranty coverage due to the light engine defect. I had Sony replace the light engine twice in my SXRD, at no cost to me, all substantially outside of the original warranty period.

I don't think your extended warranty paid a dime for those light engine replacements, and they likely got Sony to fix it as it was a well-known and well-documented product design defect.
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Really? I just bought my 60HU8550 with an amex. fantastic!
Some visa and mastercards offer, price watch, where if there is a price drop they will reimburse you the difference. Damage protection, if it gets damaged in the first 90 days, many other benefits as well.......all for free

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I checked the back of the set and found out that my 65-inch UHD8550 panel number is TS01. Presumably this is the "good" panel that was manufactured by Samsung. That may account for why I haven't seen any picture-related flaws. But I need to spend much more time in front of the set before making a final evaluation.

The first night viewing programming on this set (HBO programming from DTV) was an engaging but somehow strange experience. Then I found in this forum reference to what has been referred to as the "soap opera effect." Bingo. That is what the programs I watched had in common. It felt like you were watching some kind of direct broadcast of a daytime soap. The over realism of the picture made you think about each scenes' setup, whether a microphone would intrude into the picture from above etc.!! For others experiencing this effect, its easy to turn off and that is what I did last night. Problem solved.

Just a couple of additional thoughts/questions:
  1. I'm delighted with the OTA reception capabilities of the set but less so when I bring up the channel guide for my OTA stations - its abysmally slow.
  2. What is this "guage" that appears sometimes in the lower right-hand corner of the set? It appears briefly and then disappears. Seems related to LED in some way....
  3. In adjusting the volume on this set, each volume change is accompanyed by an annoying "boink" sound. There must be some way to turn this off.
The A/V cabinet/credenza comes Friday. That's when I will connect up my AV components. Should be interesting to see how it all works. I did reprogram my Harmony Remote for this new set as it still has way more capabilities as a universal remote that can control all of my equipment than the one that Samsung provided, IMHO. Thanks
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I checked the back of the set and found out that my 65-inch UHD8550 panel number is TS01. Presumably this is the "good" panel that was manufactured by Samsung. That may account for why I haven't seen any picture-related flaws. But I need to spend much more time in front of the set before making a final evaluation.

The first night viewing programming on this set (HBO programming from DTV) was an engaging but somehow strange experience. Then I found in this forum reference to what has been referred to as the "soap opera effect." Bingo. That is what the programs I watched had in common. It felt like you were watching some kind of direct broadcast of a daytime soap. The over realism of the picture made you think about each scenes' setup, whether a microphone would intrude into the picture from above etc.!! For others experiencing this effect, its easy to turn off and that is what I did last night. Problem solved.

Just a couple of additional thoughts/questions:
  1. I'm delighted with the OTA reception capabilities of the set but less so when I bring up the channel guide for my OTA stations - its abysmally slow.
  2. What is this "guage" that appears sometimes in the lower right-hand corner of the set? It appears briefly and then disappears. Seems related to LED in some way....
  3. In adjusting the volume on this set, each volume change is accompanyed by an annoying "boink" sound. There must be some way to turn this off.
The A/V cabinet/credenza comes Friday. That's when I will connect up my AV components. Should be interesting to see how it all works. I did reprogram my Harmony Remote for this new set as it still has way more capabilities as a universal remote that can control all of my equipment than the one that Samsung provided, IMHO. Thanks
To add on to your questions.

When I pull up the Guide (The Samsung not Cable) why does it start on channel 2 (CBS) as opposed to the channel I'm actually on? This kind of makes it useless as I'm not going to page down to 502 (CBS HD). Is there any way to have this start where i'm actually at?
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The led gauge is telling you about its power consumption. The higher the gauge the more power is consuming all the way up into the grey range which is the older TV versions I believe. I think its related to the auto dimming function.
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When using auto motion plus set to custom are you able to put led clear motion on and set your blur and judder setting? I have a h8000 and when I try to use that feature judder reduction and blur are blanked out.
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When using auto motion plus set to custom are you able to put led clear motion on and set your blur and judder setting? I have a h8000 and when I try to use that feature judder reduction and blur are blanked out.
I can't. Blur and judder are grayed out when turning on LED CM.

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Hey guys

Don't know who else to ask

What blu ray players do u guys recommended to get the best out of the 4k tv (8550)

Are there any under $200-300

Thank you
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Hey guys

Don't know who else to ask

What blu ray players do u guys recommended to get the best out of the 4k tv (8550)

Are there any under $200-300

Thank you
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Don't know who else to ask

What blu ray players do u guys recommended to get the best out of the 4k tv (8550)

Are there any under $200-300

Thank you
I picked up a Sony BDP-S6200 for 179.00 from Amazon and love it. I don't use the 4K upscaling because the TV does a great job of that on it's own. It isn't as good as the Oppo 103 but the Oppo is 499.00.

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Don't know who else to ask

What blu ray players do u guys recommended to get the best out of the 4k tv (8550)

Are there any under $200-300

Thank you
The Panasonic bdt360 is $140 and has a picture above both the sony and samsung according to reviews. It has a better picture then both my ps4 and xbox 1.

I do not upscale. The tv is one of the best up scaler you have bought. Ever.
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Has anyone seen the 78" HU9000? How does it compare to the 65" model?
Personally I hated the curve at 65", didn't mind it at 78". For me, the bigger the tv, the less the curve bothers me.
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Thanks for the suggestions so far regarding the blu ray players
Still not sure which one to get

I'm getting the vibe that most of them that say they have 4k upscalling have a setting in which you can choose to have 4k upscalling either on or off

Are you saying to have it off on the blu ray player and that the hu8550 will do a great job (better job) than the blu ray player
Including on reg DVDs also

And would it harm the picture to have it on aswell as the tv upscaling


Thanks for all the advice so far
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Thanks for the suggestions so far regarding the blu ray players
Still not sure which one to get

I'm getting the vibe that most of them that say they have 4k upscalling have a setting in which you can choose to have 4k upscalling either on or off

Are you saying to have it off on the blu ray player and that the hu8550 will do a great job (better job) than the blu ray player
Including on reg DVDs also

And would it harm the picture to have it on aswell as the tv upscaling


Thanks for all the advice so far
Well if you have the player upscale it the source will be 4k (essentially) so the TV won't further upscale it. There is no way to turn the TVs upscaling on and off, it is automatic on all sources lower than 4k.

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Thanks sikclown for the info

Yeah I had read that the tv upscalling doesn't t turn on and off and that it is perminantly on

I guess what I'm asking is it

A- better to get a blu ray player that doesn't even have 4k upscalling
B- better to get a blu ray player that has 4k upscalling and turn the upscalling off because the tv does a better job
C- better to get blu ray player with 4k upscalling and turn it on (guessing not this one from what u r saying)

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I've got a TH01 panel on my HU8550...is that the same as a TS01??
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Thanks sikclown for the info

Yeah I had read that the tv upscalling doesn't t turn on and off and that it is perminantly on

I guess what I'm asking is it

A- better to get a blu ray player that doesn't even have 4k upscalling
B- better to get a blu ray player that has 4k upscalling and turn the upscalling off because the tv does a better job
C- better to get blu ray player with 4k upscalling and turn it on (guessing not this one from what u r saying)

Thanks to anyone who locks in an answer
Personally I feel like the best bluray players available have 4k upscaling and 3D because they are the higher end of "insert manufacturer here"s line. What I mean is the Sony BDP-S6200 is the flagship Sony player for the US and will have the best picture quality, speed, features, etc in comparison to the rest of it's line. Those features include 4k upscaling and 3d. Panasonic, Samsung, etc will all be similar in my opinion.

I think what it comes down to is what do you really want? A premium player that you will not upgrade for quite some time? Something to use for now while actual 4K players get ironed out along with HDCP 2.2, etc? I know I am not answering your question directly but these are all the things I think of when going to buy a new Bluray. I bought my BDP-S6200 for my living room because Sony has yet to add 3D capability to the PS4 and my old 3D player was so slow. I bought the best player available for the price (in my opinion) and I was going to grab one for my bedroom since I put a 4K Samsung in there as well. But I have a Sony BDP-S590 in the bedroom that works perfectly fine, albeit much slower than the 6200, so I am going to wait for the next crop of players hopefully with HDMI 2.0, etc.

The main reason I recommend the BDP-S6200 is the dual core processor and the speed. The 4k upscaling is average to good but the TV just does it better. I would compare it with the Panasonic and a few other models without 4k upscaling to see which appeals to you. I was very close to pulling the trigger on a Panasonic BDT-460 or a BDT-360 but I am waiting to see if the 700 comes to the States (which I doubt it will).

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Some users have experienced or introduced degradation in image quality by upscaling twice. While in theory if you upscaled that the player the tv shouldnt have to do it but it does anyway and that appears to cause issues.
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Some users have experienced or introduced degradation in image quality by upscaling twice. While in theory if you upscaled that the player the tv shouldnt have to do it but it does anyway and that appears to cause issues.
I am just guessing on this but I would think the only way the TV would upscale a 4k signal is if it isn't identifying itself as a 4k signal or if it wasn't producing a full 4k image. Perhaps the degradation of the image is due to the processing of the external device? Or perhaps these users have a receiver connected that is capable of 4K upscaling and it is turned on without their knowledge? I have a UN65F9000 and a UN55HU8550 and I have never experienced degradation when I have either my bluray or my reciever do the upscaling with the exception of when I first set up my s6200. It had color banding and flashing across the screen on occasion, come to find out I had 4k upscaling turned on in my receiver on that port so upscaling was happening twice before the TV received it. The image was getting distorted and was essentially "stepped on" too many times.

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I am just guessing on this but I would think the only way the TV would upscale a 4k signal is if it isn't identifying itself as a 4k signal or if it wasn't producing a full 4k image. Perhaps the degradation of the image is due to the processing of the external device? Or perhaps these users have a receiver connected that is capable of 4K upscaling and it is turned on without their knowledge? I have a UN65F9000 and a UN55HU8550 and I have never experienced degradation when I have either my bluray or my reciever do the upscaling with the exception of when I first set up my s6200. It had color banding and flashing across the screen on occasion, come to find out I had 4k upscaling turned on in my receiver on that port so upscaling was happening twice before the TV received it. The image was getting distorted and was essentially "stepped on" too many times.
The thing is the tv has a better up scaler. I'm sure Sony would too.

But not all 4k tv's will be made equal this year. Hisense. Vizio. Even sharp. Others. May not have a quality upscale solution so these players do have a purpose.
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