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Vizio is dropping 10 bit panels later this year. Good luck.
Verify that with a link. That would not make any sense. As the industry standard will be 10-bit.
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Verify that with a link. That would not make any sense. As the industry standard will be 10-bit.
Im sorry thats street slang for hitting the street. They will be releasing 10 bit panels. I apologize for the confusion.
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Im sorry thats street slang for hitting the street. They will be releasing 10 bit panels. I apologize for the confusion.
So 55" flat (curved?) 10-bit 4k TV'S for < $1000.00 come Black Friday 2016? Can we wait? maybe . . .

Haven't read any updates about Vizio's upcoming P series since the January CES reports. Makes me wonder if they're still in the game.

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Well there you go. If its dumb to you, you have your answer. I hope this is what you were looking for. There are plenty of great 1080p sets out this year also. Those are 8 bit too.

Vizio is dropping 10 bit panels later this year. Good luck.
10 bit does not mean better. Currently LG is using 10 bit panels and both Sony and Samsung are much better pictures with 8 bit.
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So 5u5" flat (curved?) 10-bit 4k TV'S for < $1000.00 come Black Friday 2016? Can we wait? maybe . . .

Haven't read any updates about Vizio's upcoming P series since the January CES reports. Makes me wonder if they're still in the game.
The only thing Black Friday will bring is a 32" 720p Sanyo for $99.00 (better get in line now). Everyone always says wait until Black Friday, unless you need a bedroom TV it is always a Bust.
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the only thing black friday will bring is a 32" 720p sanyo for $99.00 (better get in line now). Everyone always says wait until black friday, unless you need a bedroom tv it is always a bust.
Amazon 2016 and sometimes they run a limited special deal.

But whatever. The point is sets will improve, prices will drop. That how it always is. What you buy today is obsolete by the time you walk out the door. A $4000 set today will sell for $2000 or less with twice the features, PQ etc. I used to get mad every time I walked into Best Buy or Walmart six months after plunking down over $3000 for my '03 Philips plasma and after forking over $1500 for my '08 40" LCD. Just the way it goes.

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How are you guys going to watch 10 bit color on your expensive 8 bit panels? Huh? Magic act or something?

By the time there is a significant source of 10 bit UHD, I will be ready for a new display.
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10 bit does not mean better. Currently LG is using 10 bit panels and both Sony and Samsung are much better pictures with 8 bit.
It always surprises me how many automatically assume that a 10 bit panel will equate to a better picture. It just doesn't. It's the same thing with video cameras. People assume a 10bit camera will take better video than an 8 bit. It may or may not, but the chances are good it will have little to do with the number of bits.
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Amazon 2016 and sometimes they run a limited special deal.

But whatever. The point is sets will improve, prices will drop. That how it always is. What you buy today is obsolete by the time you walk out the door. A $4000 set today will sell for $2000 or less with twice the features, PQ etc. I used to get mad every time I walked into Best Buy or Walmart six months after plunking down over $3000 for my '03 Philips plasma and after forking over $1500 for my '08 40" LCD. Just the way it goes.
You had a point? I was answering your question. You thought it was dumb. I have no issue with that.

What do you want? A high five? I'm not sure why we would not understand what your saying before spending the money we did.

Why would this just now be new to us? That's what I mean. You don't agree with our purchase. If you want curved that's a different feature than 10 bit panels right now. You want both look at lg in the near future.

Otherwise I'm not sure your going to get buyers remorse from owners here. You may want to check other sets but I'm sure most sony owners are pretty happy too.

Just me though.
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Well we could wait a few more years and get a 55"+ OLED 4k for <$1000. http://news.oled-display.net/samsung...or-four-years/
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Well we could wait a few more years and get a 55"+ OLED 4k for <$1000. http://news.oled-display.net/samsung...or-four-years/
I didn't want to wait that long. The 3d is so good. That alone is an experience I cannot begin to describe. Sometimes the curve will make corners look like you can walk around them, reach around them.

But the only thing is the bits of the panel. I honestly don't think you will tell versus a current samsung. The depth to create more of a refined line maybe a bit more prevalent but that's not been the case thus far especially when we don't have source really being mastered above the needed current standards.

I do know we will see a change at maybe a 10 to 15 year point. But that's far enough away that oled will be a viable and cheap option. I'm sure another form of oled will be available too that has even greater picture control.

But I don't want to wait for all that.

I'll enjoy what's here now. The guts can be upgraded. The panel will handle all current material and because of the saturation of 1080p sets future material for the time being like a freaking beast.

In 10 years will 10 and 12 bit material and panels be more readily available. Yep. Will source too? Yep.

That's why I jumped in now. My wife didn't care. Because even she understands the time you have tech for defines and justifies it's value.

4k for the samsung is not a bad choice.
I love Samsung products. I trust them.

I wouldn't spend the money on anything less than samsung, sony, and lg. Maybe sharp. That's debatable.
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Well we could wait a few more years and get a 55"+ OLED 4k for <$1000. http://news.oled-display.net/samsung...or-four-years/

If I waited to buy until there was nothing new/great on the horizon; I would still have my old 32" SD CRT. Plus, I would have missed the fun of the HD evolution. In 12 years, I went from Mitsubishi RPTV, to Sony SXRD, to Panasonic Plasma, and finally to Samsung 4k LED. I've enjoyed the journey.

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Anyone know what changes there are with the new 2142 software (HU8550) that came out today??

[[is there a way to view the update 'details' if you missed the button on the pop-up message?]]
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Anyone know what changes there are with the new 2142 software (HU8550) that came out today??

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If I waited to buy until there was nothing new/great on the horizon; I would still have my old 32" SD CRT. Plus, I would have missed the fun of the HD evolution. In 12 years, I went from Mitsubishi RPTV, to Sony SXRD, to Panasonic Plasma, and finally to Samsung 4k LED. I've enjoyed the journey.
Next stop on our journey > http://news.oled-display.net/lg-laun...tv-in-q4-2014/
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So your telling me the panel in a HU8700 is exactly the same as in the 9000? What about 10bit color? Isn't that in the panel? (due next year?)

RedShark News - 4K TV confirmed as 10bit
http://www.redsharknews.com/distribu...irmed-as-10bit

Seems kind of dumb to spend a lot of money on a 4k TV with only an 8 bit panel now.

How are you guys going to watch 10 bit color on your expensive 8 bit panels? Huh? Magic act or something?
And what content do you have for the 10 bit color depth, can you point me to a blu-ray or broadcast in 4:2:2? Huh? Magic upgrade or something?
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One thing I don't understand. The HU9000 has the "Wide Color Enhancer Plus" built in to give a wider colour gamut via interpolation. But it's only a 8 bit panel, how can it have a wider colour gamut than a normal TV and not be 10 bit or better panel?

(I'm not disputing that it's a 8 bit panel, I just don't understand how a 8 bit panel can have a wider gamut than other 8 bit panels)

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Anyone know what changes there are with the new 2142 software (HU8550) that came out today??

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Improved browser performance
Improved app performance
Improved stability
Improved usability of input devices


Thats what it said just now when I went to update.
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Back to the 10-bit thing, the replacement panel on the UN55HU8550 says it is 10-bit.....

http://www.samsungparts.com/Products...UN55HU8550FXZA

As does the UN65HU9000

http://www.samsungparts.com/Products...UN65HU9000FXZA

Take that for what it is. No clue if it is accurate.
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Back to the 10-bit thing, the replacement panel on the UN55HU8550 says it is 10-bit.....

http://www.samsungparts.com/Products...UN55HU8550FXZA

As does the UN65HU9000

http://www.samsungparts.com/Products...UN65HU9000FXZA

Take that for what it is. No clue if it is accurate.
Interesting.
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Interesting.
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Well, I went from this (Elite PRO-730HD):



to this (HU9000, not sure what that model is):



Do I have buyer's remorse?...ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDDING ME? !
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Here is a simple question...does the power light on the bottom bother any folks here? I know it's nic-picky, but when the screen fades to black, that light jumps right out at me. Solutions?
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Here is a simple question...does the power light on the bottom bother any folks here? I know it's nic-picky, but when the screen fades to black, that light jumps right out at me. Solutions?
System, General, Light Effect. Change it there.
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System, General, Light Effect. Change it.
Easy peasy, the light is out. Thanks!
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Back to the 10-bit thing, the replacement panel on the UN55HU8550 says it is 10-bit.....

http://www.samsungparts.com/Products...UN55HU8550FXZA

As does the UN65HU9000

http://www.samsungparts.com/Products...UN65HU9000FXZA

Take that for what it is. No clue if it is accurate.
Crazy thing is all roads lead to 10 bit. Im just not sure what to believe right now.
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I think I heard samsung say themselves the panels were 8bit. Not sure where the link is. So confused right now.
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UHD Color

I've just received the UHD Evolution kit for my F9000. I've installed it and updated with the latest software. Has anyone tried the new "UHD Color" feature? Is it something I should set up or will it cause issues? Thanks.

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I've just received my UHD Evolution kit for my F9000. I've installed it and updated with the latest software. Has anyone tried the new "UHD Color" feature? Is it something I should set up or will it cause issues? Thanks.
I'm using UHD colour on my HU9000 no issues but I can't speak to the colour accuracy.
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