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I asked the Sony rep if the new unit is faster and he said no it only offered wireless connection and Netflix streaming. If you have a 900a the new player is a must.

It is slow at downloading so if your making a purchase make sure you give yourself the time to download prior to watching. Once downloaded you have it. I might purchase a 2TB external and add it.
Thanks. I saw the old model at Fry's. I may have to pick up one of these.
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Thanks. I saw the old model at Fry's. I may have to pick up one of these.
I would be shocked if any are left.
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Thanks. I saw the old model at Fry's. I may have to pick up one of these.
The key is Make sure you have a wired network connection to the box. The TV can be wireless (both must be hooked)

You also must use HDMI 1 out from the box to HDMI 2 to the tv. If you do all this correct the hookup takes 5 minutes. The first time I spent two hours.
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I would be shocked if any are left.
I returned my first one with the tv, when I decided to give a second set a try they were out of media players at my Frys. I walked in the other night and there was one brand new in the box, nobody knew where it came from.
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I returned my first one with the tv, when I decided to give a second set a try they were out of media players at my Frys. I walked in the other night and there was one brand new in the box, nobody knew where it came from.
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Some pics. I had to touch up two pics because my LED lighting in my house sometimes mess up photos:










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What are the 3 spots on top of the images?
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Reflections of the can lights in the ceiling above.
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Those of you that have TVs are you using the extension box, or are you just using your own fixed length HDMI cables? Since I will be mounting on the wall, I assume I will have to use the extension box in order to plug-in a USB drive to play some 4k clips.

Also, can the Sony FMP-X10 use the extension box, or does it have to plug-in directly?

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If you love football, here you can find 15 minutes of Uruguay - Colombia of this 2014 World Cup in 4K..
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Those of you that have TVs are you using the extension box, or are you just using your own fixed length HDMI cables? Since I will be mounting on the wall, I assume I will have to use the extension box in order to plug-in a USB drive to play some 4k clips.

Also, can the Sony FMP-X10 use the extension box, or does it have to plug-in directly?
Unless the "box" you are plugging everything into has HDCP 2.2 it would need to go directly do the tv. I only think there are a few receivers with 2.2 support.
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Unless the "box" you are plugging everything into has HDCP 2.2 it would need to go directly do the tv. I only think there are a few receivers with 2.2 support.
I specifically mean the extension box that ships with the TV. It's a breakout box that has a 6-9' cable.
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There are several dozen bands about an inch across. I watch a lot of sports and this will be my primary sports TV. It is located in my "man cave".

The watched a bunch of scenes from low APL movies. Compared to my Kuro's this set has much better shadow detail. The Kuro can crush black fairly easily. The absolute blacks are better on the Kuro but the overall picture presentation will narrowly go to the Sony.

I also hooked up my iScan mini to put up some test patterns. Here the TV excelled with no obvious issues. Uniformity was surprisingly good. I will probably calibrate it late next week when I get a chance to see it I can make things even better.
No one seems to be making a comparison of typical Comcast compressed broadcast signal on an older set (like my XBR6 model) and one of this current generation. Does the upscaling manifest itself in an improved picture or do we have to wait until Comcast finds a cleaner compression system than what they are using now (ha- ha)?
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I would hate to see anyone pay full retail for starters....However this set has not even hit in full flow, yet. I would guess 60-90 days....
I'm confident you will inform us when it does. Hopefully it falls as fast as the 65", that's what I'm waiting for.
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No one seems to be making a comparison of typical Comcast compressed broadcast signal on an older set (like my XBR6 model) and one of this current generation. Does the upscaling manifest itself in an improved picture or do we have to wait until Comcast finds a cleaner compression system than what they are using now (ha- ha)?
Either way you will not see a drastic improvement upscaling a signal to 4K . Will it help, maybe a tad . If you want to see true 4K , it has to be filmed and put thru to your unit in 4K . A easy, and prime example is a older show like the brandy bunch . Do not think for a second just because you have a 4K unit that when your unit receives this kind of feed it will upgrade this old film to 4K clarity . Sure your unit will upscale everything to 4K, but it is not going to change the content given to any major degree..... Even a 1080P show will upscale, but it will not be the quality of an original 4K program shot with a 4K camera, then transmitted to your unit in 4K .
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Either way you will not see a drastic improvement upscaling a signal to 4K . Will it help, maybe a tad . If you want to see true 4K , it has to be filmed and put thru to your unit in 4K . A easy, and prime example is a older show like the brandy bunch . Do not think for a second just because you have a 4K unit that when your unit receives this kind of feed it will upgrade this old film to 4K clarity . Sure your unit will upscale everything to 4K, but it is not going to change the content given to any major degree..... Even a 1080P show will upscale, but it will not be the quality of an original 4K program shot with a 4K camera, then transmitted to your unit in 4K .
That's about what I figured, but it raises the question about what is all the "ooing and aawing" generated by these folks who watched the world cup (for example) on these 4K sets? If what you say is correct (and I have no doubts about that), what were these folks seeing?
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No one seems to be making a comparison of typical Comcast compressed broadcast signal on an older set (like my XBR6 model) and one of this current generation. Does the upscaling manifest itself in an improved picture or do we have to wait until Comcast finds a cleaner compression system than what they are using now (ha- ha)?
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That's about what I figured, but it raises the question about what is all the "ooing and aawing" generated by these folks who watched the world cup (for example) on these 4K sets? If what you say is correct (and I have no doubts about that), what were these folks seeing?
It could just be they had older TVs or ones that were not that great with color reproduction. If you own a top notch 1080p set, you will not see a difference with broadcast TV.
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I can see banding when watching the world cup.....everything else looks fine.
Hi Johnny,

My name is Amanda and I’m a manger with Sony……just wanted to see what was going on with your 4k.

I’m currently out of the office for the next couple of weeks but if you can email me at supportsocial@am.sony.com and provide me with your phone number I’ll have my manager give you a call. Thanks, Amanda
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My name is Amanda and I’m a manger with Sony……just wanted to see what was going on with your 4k.

I’m currently out of the office for the next couple of weeks but if you can email me at supportsocial@am.sony.com and provide me with your phone number I’ll have my manager give you a call. Thanks, Amanda
Well hello there Amanda, others, and Sony Listens. It's been a week of Sundays since we'seen ya.

You might want to re-visit the X1 issues page.

It's still going strong with the same issues, exactly one year to the day (7-15-13) that my 65/900a was modified and the X1 fired up.

I'm sure there are many people that would appreciate assistance with their A and B models as well as the 4K media player.

Thanks again.

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It could just be they had older TVs or ones that were not that great with color reproduction. If you own a top notch 1080p set, you will not see a difference with broadcast TV.
So if one has a decent set like mine and the 4K set can't improve current material, even a standard BluRay, it sounds like one should wait until significant 4K viewing material exists and who knows how long or even if that will happen? Comcast won't be a source, that's for sure as they like to eat up their bandwith with lots of quantity, gross amounts of compression to do so.
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So if one has a decent set like mine and the 4K set can't improve current material, even a standard BluRay, it sounds like one should wait until significant 4K viewing material exists and who knows how long or even if that will happen? Comcast won't be a source, that's for sure as they like to eat up their bandwith with lots of quantity, gross amounts of compression to do so.


Please see link below...we are talking about comcast...but...


"Later this year, our new X1 set-top boxes will deliver 4K UHD content to all 4K UHD capable televisions."
http://corporate.comcast.com/news-in...the-television
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Only downside to the old model is DL speeds. Something is not right on it. I was only able to get 10mbps speeds with a much faster connection.
Mine is downloading at 18-19 Mbps, you may want to do a speed test on your network.
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Finally saw the 79xB. Off angle it is much better. The contrast and overall picture right on par with the 65"x9B. The color might even be better. The uniformity is the worst I have seen. DSE and banding on the set I saw made it not acceptable to me. If not for these issues it makes people who pay $8K for a 950B look like their being robbed. Aside from uniformity problems by far the best 4K set I have seen.
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Finally saw the 79xB. Off angle it is much better. The contrast and overall picture right on par with the 65"x9B. The color might even be better. The uniformity is the worst I have seen. DSE and banding on the set I saw made it not acceptable to me. If not for these issues it makes people who pay $8K for a 950B look like their being robbed. Aside from uniformity problems by far the best 4K set I have seen.
Rawr. Once you see it, you cannot look back. Wednesday I have a new one coming (900a). It will be the last one I try.
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Finally saw the 79xB. Off angle it is much better. The contrast and overall picture right on par with the 65"x9B. The color might even be better. The uniformity is the worst I have seen. DSE and banding on the set I saw made it not acceptable to me. If not for these issues it makes people who pay $8K for a 950B look like their being robbed. Aside from uniformity problems by far the best 4K set I have seen.

The 79"
So the Good - Off angle, contrast, color
The Bad - Uniformity, DSE, banding


Last statement you only mention uniformity (not DSE/banding) but still best by far excluding uniformity (only). Banding and DSE not a big issue for you?
Where did you see the uniformity issue?
I couldn't be sure if you loved it, hated it or how close you felt to either.
Is the 950B the best by far or the 79"? Sorry, I am confused a bit!
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The 79"
So the Good - Off angle, contrast, color
The Bad - Uniformity, DSE, banding


Last statement you only mention uniformity (not DSE/banding) but still best by far excluding uniformity (only). Banding and DSE not a big issue for you?
Where did you see the uniformity issue?
I couldn't be sure if you loved it, hated it or how close you felt to either.
Is the 950B the best by far or the 79"? Sorry, I am confused a bit!
I saw banding and DSE with camera pans. The worst I have seen on a set in a long time. When the camera was not panning it was the best, sharpest almost 3D looking image. It makes the 65" 900B and 950B look silly when compared in person.
Hopefully the poor uniformity was only do to a bad panel and not something that will be on all 79 B's. IF I could find one with passable uniformity I would max out some plastic to get one. The other item to consider is reflections, that is a whole lot of glass to reflect from. People with windows might be better served with the 78HU9000.


4K is made for Large screens. The 78HU9000 make the 65HU9000 look like a toy and the 79900B makes the 65900B and 65950B look like toys.
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I saw banding and DSE with camera pans. The worst I have seen on a set in a long time. When the camera was not panning it was the best, sharpest almost 3D looking image. It makes the 900B and 950B look silly when compared in person.
Hopefully the poor uniformity was only do to a bad panel and not something that will be on all 79 B's. If I coukd find one with passable uniformity I would max out some plastic to get one.

Vegas - I love when you're sitting at your computer and respond in a nanosecond!
I find it interesting that you would be so quick to get a 79" if it had decent uniformity even though you see the worst DSE and banding (on pans only of course).
Interesting...I guess I am encouraged, and hoping mine has decent uniformity.
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4K is made for Large screens. The 78HU9000 makes the 65HU9000 look like a toy and the 79900B makes the 65900B and 65950B look like toys.
I agree.

As for banding, uniformity, and DSE, I'm hoping those are things AVSers see but wives and kids don't. For better or worse, I'm more like the latter.

I'm traveling for the rest of the month so while I've pretty much decided on the 79X900B, I still have a couple more weeks to get cold feet.
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Vegas - I love when you're sitting at your computer and respond in a nanosecond!
I find it interesting that you would be so quick to get a 79" if it had decent uniformity even though you see the worst DSE and banding (on pans only of course).
Interesting...I guess I am encouraged, and hoping mine has decent uniformity.

If you have good (not perfect) uniformity you will have the Best 4K set I have ever seen. The uniformity on the set I seen was not acceptable, it was bad enough where it would not take a AVS forum member to spot. If yours is bad, my guess is they all are. The 65B has Very minor uniformity issues compared to what I seen on the 79B.


My 1st 65B had very bad uniformity compared to my second. Watching my second set you might watch an entire movie without spotting anything, on the 79B I saw you could not watch 5 minutes of video without seeing DSE and banding. When the camera was not moving it was 4K Heaven.

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