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Letter box are not fully black on a dark setting, but if you are not paying attention exclusively to them , they will not bother you.
Great to hear - I've never in my life noticed the blackness of the black bars... until I started coming here.

I plan to bury my head right back in that sand when/if I buy the 79X900B.
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I have a question and was wondering if this is a good place to ask. Just ordered my 65X900B and a Rythmic LV12R servo sub. It is for my bedroom and want to use the speakers in the TV with the Sub for the audio. I currently have a sony HTCT150 3.1 soundbar but think the 900B internal speakers with this Rythmic sub will far outperform the Sony Sound Bar.

The Sony marketing info says "sub out" in numerous places but I can't seem to find any details on how to connect the sub to the tv to use the internal speakers as primary with sub for low end support. Any info from someone who has the tv would be most appreciated. Didn't want to do the Sony wireless sub as it will be pretty anemic compared to the 300WRMS 12" rythmic. I'm not blasting as it is my bedroom but want clean bass and good overall sound.

Thanks for any help! If I should post elsewhere, please let me know.

Cheers! (Looking forward to getting my 900B!)
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Any thoughts on the LG OLED 4K 65 incher?

edit nevermind, im checking your comments in that thread

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Great to hear - I've never in my life noticed the blackness of the black bars... until I started coming here.

I plan to bury my head right back in that sand when/if I buy the 79X900B.
Never gave blacks much though either till AVS doing ok with the sets I have now ones a newer Sammy plasma
and bedroom is a new Sony LED with a VA panel and real decent blacks other 4 around here arent bad just not as good as these 2 .

79x900B yea I think I would be able to make an accommodation for one of those ,now if only the checkbook could
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I have a question and was wondering if this is a good place to ask. Just ordered my 65X900B and a Rythmic LV12R servo sub. It is for my bedroom and want to use the speakers in the TV with the Sub for the audio. I currently have a sony HTCT150 3.1 soundbar but think the 900B internal speakers with this Rythmic sub will far outperform the Sony Sound Bar.

The Sony marketing info says "sub out" in numerous places but I can't seem to find any details on how to connect the sub to the tv to use the internal speakers as primary with sub for low end support. Any info from someone who has the tv would be most appreciated. Didn't want to do the Sony wireless sub as it will be pretty anemic compared to the 300WRMS 12" rythmic. I'm not blasting as it is my bedroom but want clean bass and good overall sound.

Thanks for any help! If I should post elsewhere, please let me know.

Cheers! (Looking forward to getting my 900B!)
I think the Sony wireless sub is the only choice with the built in speakers. It uses both the headphone jack and USB to connect wirelessly.

While the built in speakers are good, I always find myself having to toggle the volume up and down based on the background noise and people talking. A good sound bar would serve you better in that aspect.
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The best TV ever made.......period, end of discussion.
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I have a few questions

1) I read a few pages back that after the tv update, netflix should be a white screen instead of white. Is that true because I still have a red screen when starting app.

2) Picture has been great on my set aside for two things: when the screen is black such as when switching input - I see two whitish clouds/blobs on the left side of TV. Only seen on that blk screen, never when watching something.

3) what I notice is that when a program shows previous clips, the picture doesn't look good. For example, ESPN, when the commentators are speaking live it looks awesome but when they show a clip of let's say yesterday's baseball game - picture doesn't look as great. Is that normal?

Same thing happens when I watched recorded programs from TiVo.

4) Last question is I've noticed most 900b owners have the backlight on the low end. I have mine set to 7, once again normal? Some have even said that backlight on 2 with the 900B is brighter than max on the A series which I find hard to belief seeing as I've had both.
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I think the Sony wireless sub is the only choice with the built in speakers. It uses both the headphone jack and USB to connect wirelessly.

While the built in speakers are good, I always find myself having to toggle the volume up and down based on the background noise and people talking. A good sound bar would serve you better in that aspect.
I thought there were settings in the sound selection to output line level out on the audio jack and set it to Subwoofer? I would guess the Sony wireless sub uses the USB jack to power the wireless transmitter and the line out jack to get the sub output to transmit. Don't think it gets any audio over the USB.

Any more thoughts?

By the way, I read this entire blog before choosing the 65x900B, Thanks to everybody who contributed! You guys are awesome!
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I have a few questions

1) I read a few pages back that after the tv update, netflix should be a white screen instead of white. Is that true because I still have a red screen when starting app.

2) Picture has been great on my set aside for two things: when the screen is black such as when switching input - I see two whitish clouds/blobs on the left side of TV. Only seen on that blk screen, never when watching something.

3) what I notice is that when a program shows previous clips, the picture doesn't look good. For example, ESPN, when the commentators are speaking live it looks awesome but when they show a clip of let's say yesterday's baseball game - picture doesn't look as great. Is that normal?

Same thing happens when I watched recorded programs from TiVo.

4) Last question is I've noticed most 900b owners have the backlight on the low end. I have mine set to 7, once again normal? Some have even said that backlight on 2 with the 900B is brighter than max on the A series which I find hard to belief seeing as I've had both.
1) I think they mean the app icon. It is white with red writing vs red with white writing. I think loading is the red with white letter though.

2) blank inputs are always wonkey

3) I have noticed that with ESPN in general. That is not the TV

4) what scene are you on? I think the B is way brighter than the A. Like others, 2 on the B equals about 8-9 on the A.
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Thanks for the reply.

I have it set to standard
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This is a little bit of a noob question, but can I pipe the audio through the tv and out to a receiver? In other words, can I connect my devices through hdmi to the TV and then use a hdmi port on the tv to passthrough the audio to the receiver? And can I control the audio in any way doing that? Would mean a simpler use here than connecting all the devices to the receiver and then connecting that to the tv.
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1) I think they mean the app icon. It is white with red writing vs red with white writing. I think loading is the red with white letter though.

2) blank inputs are always wonkey

3) I have noticed that with ESPN in general. That is not the TV

4) what scene are you on? I think the B is way brighter than the A. Like others, 2 on the B equals about 8-9 on the A.
Also make sure you have Eco setting off, as they can affect backlight on top of your settings.
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Hello All,
Forgive me if this question has already been answered before,but there seems to be some confusion.
I'm interested in the 65X900B. United States model
My question is this, Does this model support HDCP 2.2?
I believe it already supports HDMI 2.0 ,and HEVC
Thank you all
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Hello All,
Forgive me if this question has already been answered before,but there seems to be some confusion.
I'm interested in the 65X900B. United States model
My question is this, Does this model support HDCP 2.2?
I believe it already supports HDMI 2.0 ,and HEVC
Thank you all
It does. I belive HDMI 2 is the port than supports HDCP 2.2.

Both HDMI 1 and 2 are 2.0 though.
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Also for some reason I can't access the movies app. When I select it, the screen goes black. Music app does work. Any ideas?
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The best TV ever made.......period, end of discussion.
Exciting times for sure Chris! They prolly will release the 65 1st followed up by his big bad brother the 77EC9800 IMO. Some great sales coming to CAV with these sets, as many are waiting for this. Soon we all will be able to chirp a new song sitting in front of a new OLED 4k techno marvel. Personally I found the "curve" aggravating to view initially. As I seen the Samsung 65HU9000 vs the 75HU8550 when I was out and about & much prefer flat. But... when a UHD set comes along this good with so many bonuses how can one buck against the goads? I'll learn to luv that darn curve if need be, unless their marketeers realize flat is marketable vs curved for this display tech.

Mr. Song says stay tuned: LG Display sees the OLED TV market emerging in late 2015 or early 2016
During a presentation in Korea, LGD's executive director of strategic marketing, Youngkwon Song, said that LGD is currently concentrating in lowering OLED TV production costs.

Sadly after reading more cons than pros on the 79X900B, I had to retire the idea of ownership.

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Exciting times for sure Chris! They prolly will release the 65 1st followed up by his big bad brother the 77EC9800 IMO. Some great sales coming to CAV with these sets, as many are waiting for this. Soon we all will be able to chirp a new song sitting in front of a new OLED 4k techno marvel. Personally I found the "curve" aggravating to view initially. As I seen the Samsung 65HU9000 vs the 75HU8550 when I was out and about & much prefer flat. But... when a UHD set comes along this good with so many bonuses how can one buck against the goads? I'll learn to luv that darn curve if need be, unless their marketeers realize flat is marketable vs curved for this display tech.

Mr. Song says stay tuned: LG Display sees the OLED TV market emerging in late 2015 or early 2016
During a presentation in Korea, LGD's executive director of strategic marketing, Youngkwon Song, said that LGD is currently concentrating in lowering OLED TV production costs.

Sadly after reading more cons than pros on the 79X900B, I had to retire the idea of ownership.

Linky: http://www.oled-info.com/oled-tv-stories

i actually find the curve on the lg a lot less noticeable. the curve on the 65hu9000 seems more noticeable than on the 78" to me.
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Question, my playstation now app never loads games, is the beta done? My connection test passes each time. I've even let it load and no games load or show up on screen, I see no game selections/choices.
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It does. I belive HDMI 2 is the port than supports HDCP 2.2.

Both HDMI 1 and 2 are 2.0 though.
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Question, I have some blotchy random dark spot when there's no input and really really dark scenes. Is this normal, I'm aware there will be uniformity issues but this really the only issue with it that I can see? Am I just too OCD or should I exchange it?
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I have a few questions

1) I read a few pages back that after the tv update, netflix should be a white screen instead of white. Is that true because I still have a red screen when starting app.

2) Picture has been great on my set aside for two things: when the screen is black such as when switching input - I see two whitish clouds/blobs on the left side of TV. Only seen on that blk screen, never when watching something.

3) what I notice is that when a program shows previous clips, the picture doesn't look good. For example, ESPN, when the commentators are speaking live it looks awesome but when they show a clip of let's say yesterday's baseball game - picture doesn't look as great. Is that normal?

Same thing happens when I watched recorded programs from TiVo.

4) Last question is I've noticed most 900b owners have the backlight on the low end. I have mine set to 7, once again normal? Some have even said that backlight on 2 with the 900B is brighter than max on the A series which I find hard to belief seeing as I've had both.
Regarding your number 4 I figured I would chime in on what I have found. So I have been testing and doing multiple pass calibrations with different settings and adv settings and have tested the effects these settings have on brightness.

There are actually a few things that have an effect on this, of course there are more but these have a huge impact.
Scene
MotionFlow
Picture setting

These all play off each other.

What I have noticed is many that have their Backlight on the lower end are probably using True Cinema. You can have the backlight almost all the way down and it will still be very bright, where as if you use Impulse you need to turn it almost all the way up if not set to Max. This then plays into the picture settings. Which then effects certain aspects of picture quality and some of what you are seeing regarding your number 3 and number 2. I have experienced some of both and was able to calibrate it out.

I can give more detail in a bit on this as well as your 1-3 though I can't right now cause me and the wife need to run errands, but what motionflow setting are you using? What scene and what picture mode?

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the curve on the 65hu9000 seems more noticeable than on the 78" to me.
I agree. The curve on the 9000 and the speakers on the X900B are far more tolerable to me on the 78"/79" sizes.
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Question, my playstation now app never loads games, is the beta done? My connection test passes each time. I've even let it load and no games load or show up on screen, I see no game selections/choices.
i just received a email from them about it, it should still be going to an open beta now as it should have been when the update hit the TV sets. also theirs supposed to be price drops on rentals hopefully they listen and price the movie rentals a little better. it seems they've listened to all the feedback I've sent so far so who knows. if you ask they seem to work quickly to get things done.
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Regarding your number 4 I figured I would chime in on what I have found. So I have been testing and doing multiple pass calibrations with different settings and adv settings and have tested the effects these settings have on brightness.

There are actually a few things that have an effect on this, of course there are more but these have a huge impact.
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These all play off each other.

What I have noticed is many that have their Backlight on the lower end are probably using True Cinema. You can have the backlight almost all the way down and it will still be very bright, where as if you use Impulse you need to turn it almost all the way up if not set to Max. This then plays into the picture settings. Which then effects certain aspects of picture quality and some of what you are seeing regarding your number 3 and number 2. I have experienced some of both and was able to calibrate it out.

I can give more detail in a bit on this as well as your 1-3 though I can't right now cause me and the wife need to run errands, but what motionflow setting are you using? What scene and what picture mode?

I have it set to standard. Backlight on 7, motion flow on standard as well. Picture is at 97, color at 60 and brightness at 50.
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I've been trying to find someone's setting on standard who has some idea on how to calibrate but no dice thus far.
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Is the power cord on the 79" hard wired?
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Also can someone confirm that when they select the videos unlimited app, the screen goes black? Sony says that's normal since you need a 4k media player to access that app.
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