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Any idea on pricing or availability on sony S75 slightly curved 4k lol
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Are you using wired or WiFi for your internet connection? Try switching between the two to see if PS Now loads correctly. If it does not, go into internet settings and try refreshing internet content. If that does not work, call Sony Support.

My 65X900B shows some clouding with an input selected and no source. With a video source it does not show any clouding. From my experience this is normal on the 900A and 900B.

If you want to test for clouding you can try two different ways. Connect a laptop or desktop via HDMI and have it output full screen, black, gray and white. Or, create full screen jpegs of black, white and gray and copy the files to a USB stick and view the jpegs on the TV.

If you still see clouding or screen distortions take a soft cloth and try lightly massaging the screen. Rub around the area where the clouding appears and across the top, bottom, left and right edge of the TV. On my TV it was the glass touching the screen that made the distortion. Massaging the edges of the screen lifted the glass and made the distortion go away.

Basically I'm guessing the dimming is turned off if there is no input?


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Every make, every model, ever brand has banding and clouding to some degree.......This is the way it has been and always will be in this technology. It is what it is.
Also, I was talking about visible clouding. Of course there will be clouding but clouding during content on a TV like this shouldn't be happening. Letterboxes on a F8000 were inky black across the screen and same on the Vizio E and M series. That's really what I'm talking about. Again when looking at his post and someones reply as I just mentioned above my response to your quote, I'm guessing the Sony turns off dimming when there is no input turned on and you're just staring at the input screen. I don't know if someone can confirm this or not. I will be able tomorrow, though


Oh wow, crap I just re-read the 900B review by cnet and it says there is some illumination on the letterboxes. Oh man, I should of gotten the HU9000.

Oh though it says the other edge lit sets showed some "stray illumination" meaning I guess it's not really visible from my experience with the f8000.

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Anyone here got the 55" with the feet mounted in the middle? I need to know how far apart they are. Thanks.
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anyone here got the 55" with the feet mounted in the middle? I need to know how far apart they are. Thanks.
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So a 10 bit panel can display 12 bit color?
Yes at the panel by dithering adjacent pixels at a very higher frame rate [ +FRC overdrive] it is additive color wise in nature likewise a 6 bit panel with [+hight frc] in 8 bit overdrive can display 8 bit color fine .

With [+frc ] (overdrive 8 bit mode if you will ) a 6 bit panel can display 8 bit color . At true native 10 bit panel in 10 bit display mode and likewise for a true 8 bit panel in 8 bit display mode smoother grey scale/color gradation will sometimes be apparent on *some test patterns but not ordinarily noticeable in pgm. viewing ..

I have a 2013 Sony LED w/overdrive panel it works fine you will never notice it. I only found out by getting the panel number from serv. menu and looking the panel specs up. Panel also shows smooth grey scale and color gradients on test patterns. IMO it's not an issue on the newest panels anymore.

OTOH HDMI chip bandwidth is a completely different thing and on it's own can certainly limit color bit depth vs frame rate .

AFAIK most with some exceptions 4K TV's right now are 8 bit panels using [+high frc] true10 bit 4K panels are just now entering the supply chain in volume and will probably be reserved for premium models any 12 bit panels will likely be 10 bit +high frc overdrive panels .

Some Sony sets use LG and Samsung SPVA-2 LCD cells with Foxconn fabricated and assembled back lights as do the triluminous FALD Sony panels and maybe same with an occasional AUO cell. I believe the AUP panels mostly in W800/850B come as complete assys .

All the Sony W600B use Samsung cells and Foxconn back lights .The 9x/9.5x sets that can usually be either LGD,AUO or Samsung LCD Cells with Foxconn back lights /edge lights . 84" Sony uses a CMO panel , Sony 70" 8x AFAIK uses Samsung SPVA-2 cell and Foxconn back light/edge light +high frc panel . Sony does not make TV panels .
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Anyone here got the 55" with the feet mounted in the middle? I need to know how far apart they are. Thanks.
are you taking the plunge and getting the 900B? or did Sony honor their mistake they offered you?
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are you taking the plunge and getting the 900B? or did Sony honor their mistake they offered you?
I didn't get offered the swap to begin with, I just assumed that I would. But then Sony said that this was an error and that the HDCP 2.2 board will be coming in September, so the repair centre stopped offering the swap to people and started pretending that they'd never even heard of such a thing (this is when I called them). THEN about a week ago they were telling people that the part wouldn't be available until November, so they started offering the swap again. And literally a day or two after I accepted the swap offer, they've been telling people that the part WILL be coming in September after all.

I'm hoping that they will still honour the swap which has been offered.
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I didn't get offered the swap to begin with, I just assumed that I would. But then Sony said that this was an error and that the HDCP 2.2 board will be coming in September, so the repair centre stopped offering the swap to people and started pretending that they'd never even heard of such a thing (this is when I called them). THEN about a week ago they were telling people that the part wouldn't be available until November, so they started offering the swap again. And literally a day or two after I accepted the swap offer, they've been telling people that the part WILL be coming in September after all.

I'm hoping that they will still honour the swap which has been offered.
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Oh wow, crap I just re-read the 900B review by cnet and it says there is some illumination on the letterboxes. Oh man, I should of gotten the HU9000.
Hop in the HU9000 thread, issues there as well, issues on all of there darn TV's ...... Enjoy already
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I didn't get offered the swap to begin with, I just assumed that I would. But then Sony said that this was an error and that the HDCP 2.2 board will be coming in September, so the repair centre stopped offering the swap to people and started pretending that they'd never even heard of such a thing (this is when I called them). THEN about a week ago they were telling people that the part wouldn't be available until November, so they started offering the swap again. And literally a day or two after I accepted the swap offer, they've been telling people that the part WILL be coming in September after all.

I'm hoping that they will still honour the swap which has been offered.
I hope they honor it. The only problem I see is that it can take up to 3 weeks for a replacement to ship, so they could still shaft you!
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I just got my TV. Is there any advantage of me using this port replicator (for 1080p content) and also I cant seem to find out what these 4 bulky screws do. 2 Long 2 shorter and they are like wide and it seems like you can screws screws into the back of it.

Man this TV is good. Theres just one god damn band in the middle. It had to be in the middle.

It seemed scary at first though because if no input is connected none of the dimming is on and I thought my TV was messed up because i had clouding from 2 sides. But yeah its black and nice, I think I just need a replacement and It should be good. I put that gradient setting on high which fixes the banding but I still see it in the middle. You can only really notice it when panning blue/green
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[QUOTE=konigsberg7;26508961]I just got my TV. Is there any advantage of me using this port replicator (for 1080p content) and also I cant seem to find out what these 4 bulky screws do. 2 Long 2 shorter and they are like wide and it seems like you can screws screws into the back of it.


My XBR79-X900B has two pairs of different height stand offs for screwing into the 400mm wall mount bracket holes. The tall ones go in the top and the short ones in the bottom to correct for the tapered TV case which accomodates the "bass" speakers on the bottom sides.
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Just got my replacement/exchange unit today. Sony said the TV would be a new unit which from what I can tell is. However it came in a different box, much bigger with more padding. On the box it says factory new. I called sony and they say the tv is new but box is different because it comes from different warehouse and for more protection.

Also they said all refurbished units have a label on the back, my new unit does not. Also the new unit has a date of July 2014 and had all plastics, stickers, accessories were sealed, etc.

Anyone experienced the same?
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Just got my replacement/exchange unit today. Sony said the TV would be a new unit which from what I can tell is. However it came in a different box, much bigger with more padding. On the box it says factory new. I called sony and they say the tv is new but box is different because it comes from different warehouse and for more protection.

Also they said all refurbished units have a label on the back, my new unit does not. Also the new unit has a date of July 2014 and had all plastics, stickers, accessories were sealed, etc.

Anyone experienced the same?
Yes. I still think they are refurbs haha. That could be better than new since it probably had the problem fixed.
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Still I cant find out if this port connector that comes with the set would benefit me in 1080p? Whats MHL do for 1080p? Can I just stick my roku in the MHL spot and be fine with it?
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Still I cant find out if this port connector that comes with the set would benefit me in 1080p? Whats MHL do for 1080p? Can I just stick my roku in the MHL spot and be fine with it?
MHL works great for the roku stick/Chromecast or hooking a tablet to the TV. It will power the device.

It works like a normal port too.
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Whats this resolution setting that comes with it?
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So for those that are interested I wrote a review and posted it in the review section. It should have pictures popping up in their soon. for some reason it is not linking images correctly. Though the link is there for the pictures if you want to click on them to see what they are.

I'll also be updating it later this week with new calibration report, settings, and more info on different 3D glasses etc.

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Whats this resolution setting that comes with it?
I think this is what you mean?

MHL supports 1080P and 7.1 sound.
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Yes. I still think they are refurbs haha. That could be better than new since it probably had the problem fixed.
Perhaps and I thought the same. But how can a unit built on July 2014 be refurbished that quick?

I called sony again and they swear that the unit is brand new.

Anyone else with experiences? Should I demand a retail box brand new unit?
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Perhaps and I thought the same. But how can a unit built on July 2014 be refurbished that quick?

I called sony again and they swear that the unit is brand new.

Anyone else with experiences? Should I demand a retail box brand new unit?
if the picture quality is great why does it even matter if it is a refurb?

also, I do not know of anybody who has received an exchange from Sony in an actual retail box.

I have done around 8-10 exchanges with Sony. They all have the same box/packaging and they swear they are new.

They all give you a new warranty.
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I have done around 8-10 exchanges with Sony.
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They must have a poster of your face, hanging on their wall.
It'll also have lots of little holes, for all the darts that have been thrown at it.

Serious question: what's the 3D like on the B? Most of the reviews of the 65 say that it's poor, although the hdtvtest review of the 55 said it was alright, so I'd love to get some real feedback from real owners of both sizes.
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Firmware update

Pkg2.204AAA
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It'll also have lots of little holes, for all the darts that have been thrown at it.

Serious question: what's the 3D like on the B? Most of the reviews of the 65 say that it's poor, although the hdtvtest review of the 55 said it was alright, so I'd love to get some real feedback from real owners of both sizes.
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Any info on the pkg2.204aaa firmware update?
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Any info on the pkg2.204aaa firmware update?
I did not notice anything in particular.
Description on tv is the same "non-descriptive" as all the others.

Was hoping for 4k play via dlna...but not this time.
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I did not notice anything in particular.
Description on tv is the same "non-descriptive" as all the others.

Was hoping for 4k play via dlna...but not this time.
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