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Yep, for whatever reasons the local dimming is disabled (or at least severely curtailed) in the internet modes, it's been a quirk of Sony's sets for quite a while. In fact, it's similarly nobbled in the other scene select modes even when watching HDMI sources, like in Game, which is a pity because 1080p horizontal chroma resolution isn't rolled off like it is in the Cinema scene select.
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I found that a professional calibration immensely improved the blacks, and everything else. I used Accucal, who is on the forum as UMR, for three different sets with excellent results. Most do not think the "Geek Squad" calibrations from BB are very effective. I'd suggest doing a search for ISF-certified callibrators in your area. I thought spending $500 for a professional calibration was a good expense for a set costing over $7000.
really so going with a dedicated service like Accucal is better then geek squad
i know someone a bestbuy i might be able to get a discount but hey if its not effective ill go elsewhere
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really so going with a dedicated service like Accucal is better then geek squad
i know someone a bestbuy i might be able to get a discount but hey if its not effective ill go elsewhere
You know, I am not so sure that, sometimes, Best Buy Magnolia doesn't get a bad rap here...

I am sure, as with anything else, there are good calibrators and there are not so good calibrators.

Has anyone here ever gotten a calibration by Best Buy Magnolia and not liked the results and went to someone else and gotten better results?

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Why is it this topic always has issues with seeing all the post. I can see every other topic on this board but this topic is always messed up and does not show things when posted.

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This board/thread is FUBAR. No matter what I click, I cannot get to the last 5 posts in the thread. Clicking on the last number takes me to the next to last page of posts, as does the > button.

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You know, I am not so sure that, sometimes, Best Buy Magnolia doesn't get a bad rap here...

I am sure, as with anything else, there are good calibrators and their are not so good calibrators.

Has anyone here ever gotten a calibration by Best Buy Magnolia and not liked the results and went to someone else and gotten better results?
thanks for the response ya i was talking to geek squad bestbuy tonight they were saying a lcd television needs 200 hours break in time before your calibrate it
I think I'm going to consider getting it through bestbuy because of the price i get there is a lot of audio/video places around me that calibrate but whats the difference with bestbuy geek squad and like worldwide stereo or something along those lines
i was told geek squad uses a signal generator
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Does anyone know anything about UltraFlix on Sony sets? Late last year there was an announcement about it, but can find nothing else.

It even says it will allow you to stream with an internet connection under 8mbps so it will open up 4k to more users.
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(Just moving this into here as its about this thread, I didnt know this existed when I first posted)


Hi Guys,

I recently forked out a fairly large amount of money to buy a Sony Bravia 4K KD-79X9000B TV.

I have replaced a Pioneer Kuro 50" 08 model for the Bravia...very sad Pioneer closed down my Kuro has been superb, I wanted a bigger screen is why she is sitting on the sidelines now.

Anyway, reason for posting, new telly has approx 200hrs on it, we recently had the Asia World Cup soccer in Australia and it was shown in full 1080 that looked incredible on the sony.

The issue I have is, when they showed close ups of players on the pitch, and there was a large area of the screen showing a rich green grass colour I noticed on the right side of approx 1/4 of the screen several vertical lines from top to bottom, like streaks you seen when a fax or printer is running out of ink, has anyone else had this happen?

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Just got this email...they do move fast!!...I did sit on hold for 40 mins to get through to their support which sucked...but it may have worked.



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For around 250.00 you can buy the equipment needed and calibrate yourseelf. Then in the future with a little trial and error you could do others and be way ahead of the game. I understand this is not for everyone but with the great help provided here I am fairly confident most people can do it.

Just my thoughts..............
What equipment/software would you recommend for a noob?
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What equipment/software would you recommend for a noob?
I'd recommend the I1 Display as a measuring instrument and Calman as the measuring/calibration software. When I bought mine ~7 years ago it was like $450 for the Calman software and the I1 as a package. Checking over Spectracal's home page, looks as though they've started producing their own meters, the C3 and the C6.
You should be able to buy a package (meter/software from them directly for about $500-600.

http://calman.spectracal.com/

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What equipment/software would you recommend for a noob?
Recommendation for Calibration Equipment up to 350.00

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Sony XBR65X900B VS Samsung PN64F8500

Guys,

What would be your experiences between the above TV's

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Guys,

What would be your experiences between the above TV's

Thankyou
As in what? I own both if you read my signature. Not sure what you are wanting to know exactly.

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Having had the 65X900B now for about 2 weeks and putting it through all its paces, I have to say I have mixed feelings about this set. It has its moments of absolutely dazzling brilliance but it also has scenes where I'm severely let down. At it's best, its to my eyes nearly as good as a ZT60, my reference for a near perfect image.

It's great when the scene suits its local dimming. Bright scenes outdoors with people, the images jump off the screen and look very three dimensional (like a ZT). It's also brilliant in the darkest of scenes (46:00 in Deathly Hallows Part II, when the army assembles over the dark hill) and is so exceedingly good here that you wonder how they managed to make an LCD look this black.

However, in all those tentative mid-bright scenes like indoors, like watching TV's Gotham in the police station, the edge lighting algorithm really struggles and the edges are corrupted. There is a brighter gradient coming from the edges and the colors are skewed along the left and right edges for about 3 inches. If you don't have any set to compare it to, it may even go unnoticed and you'll assume it's the source. But when you know exactly how it's supposed to look, you know that's not supposed to be there. I'm quite certain this is not sample variation because in test patterns, I can see that my set's edge lighting and clouding are very minimal. On full field greys, the edge bleed is less than a 1/4" on either side, perfectly consistent all the way up the set. The edgelight corruption only happens on certain scenes.

It's sad to spend this much money ($4k CAD out the door is a lot of money for me) and still have not have a perfectly consistent display. There IS NO perfect display at any price, it seems. Even the ZT admittedly wasn't perfect (image retention, uneven panel wear) but when you're just sitting back and watching a film, it was pretty damn close to perfection from edge to edge.

Maybe I'll tune out the edge corruptions in time and still enjoy the image even when it's happening? Not sure...

I really want to love this X900B, but it does have a big let down in this edge light thing. Ironically, I also have the entry level 60" W600 at home right now, and while it comes nowhere close in contrast, it's still pretty damn good and its uniformity is damn near perfect. And that was 1200 out the door. That is edge lit as well, but doesn't have any of the typical pitfalls.

It seems like to get this level of contrast performance out of the X900B, some sacrifices had to be made elsewhere.
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Hey, I have both 65inch 900a an 900b

My 900a set has no ghosting on 3d but my 900b set has a lot ghosting, I just bought the 900b set so I was wondering if there was anyway to reduce ghosting while viewing 3d?
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Guys,

What would be your experiences between the above TV's

Thankyou
I have personal experience with 60F8500 and the 65X900B.

F8500:

Had 3, all of them buzzed to varying degrees and had dead pixels to varying degrees. Contrast performance is excellent, but does not go full black screen when fades to black. 3D is superb. Bright, punchy, great contrast, minimal crosstalk. Looks so real I wanted to reach into the screen. Build quality feels cheap and inconsistent between the samples I had. Great smart TV interface.

X900B:

Whisper quiet, totally flicker free LCD image with still-excellent contrast performance and has the LCD trick of going full black when screens fade to black. While it looks plasma-like at its best, there are scenes where it struggles with its edgebleeding (see my above post, two posts up). Its 3D is bright and punchy, but excessive crosstalk makes it a deal breaker and ruins the 3D image. No image retention annoyances, no burn in fears. 4k resolution and superb upscaling engine produces images subtly sharper and more defined than 1080p without looking artifical or edge-enhanced.

Between a 64F8500 and a 65X900B, I would go 65X900B. Just my 2 cents.

I would take a 65ZT60 over either.
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Having had the 65X900B now for about 2 weeks and putting it through all its paces, I have to say I have mixed feelings about this set. It has its moments of absolutely dazzling brilliance but it also has scenes where I'm severely let down. At it's best, its to my eyes nearly as good as a ZT60, my reference for a near perfect image.

It's great when the scene suits its local dimming. Bright scenes outdoors with people, the images jump off the screen and look very three dimensional (like a ZT). It's also brilliant in the darkest of scenes (46:00 in Deathly Hallows Part II, when the army assembles over the dark hill) and is so exceedingly good here that you wonder how they managed to make an LCD look this black.

However, in all those tentative mid-bright scenes like indoors, like watching TV's Gotham in the police station, the edge lighting algorithm really struggles and the edges are corrupted. There is a brighter gradient coming from the edges and the colors are skewed along the left and right edges for about 3 inches. If you don't have any set to compare it to, it may even go unnoticed and you'll assume it's the source. But when you know exactly how it's supposed to look, you know that's not supposed to be there. I'm quite certain this is not sample variation because in test patterns, I can see that my set's edge lighting and clouding are very minimal. On full field greys, the edge bleed is less than a 1/4" on either side, perfectly consistent all the way up the set. The edgelight corruption only happens on certain scenes.

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Maybe I'll tune out the edge corruptions in time and still enjoy the image even when it's happening? Not sure...

I really want to love this X900B, but it does have a big let down in this edge light thing. Ironically, I also have the entry level 60" W600 at home right now, and while it comes nowhere close in contrast, it's still pretty damn good and its uniformity is damn near perfect. And that was 1200 out the door. That is edge lit as well, but doesn't have any of the typical pitfalls.

It seems like to get this level of contrast performance out of the X900B, some sacrifices had to be made elsewhere.
It is "interesting" to note... that I am not aware of anyone who has had their X900B professionally calibrated having any of these, and other reported, "issues"...


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Hey, I have both 65inch 900a an 900b

My 900a set has no ghosting on 3d but my 900b set has a lot ghosting, I just bought the 900b set so I was wondering if there was anyway to reduce ghosting while viewing 3d?
If you turn 3D glasses brightness to LOW, it will make ghosting less apparent. But it is still there. I've given up on 3D on this set, it looks great because it's so contrasty and bright, but the ghosting ruins the experience because it happens so often.
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It is "interesting" to note... that I am not aware of anyone who has had their X900B professionally calibrated having any of these, and other reported, "issues"...

A limitation of the technology is still a limitation of the technology. Calibrate it all you want, it's still there if you know what to look for. If you don't, well, ignorance is bliss.
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