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Yes, the brightness, backlight, picture settings and advanced settings. Yes, US version.

Here's Mine:
Mode: Standard
Backlight: 15
Contrast: 90
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That is what works for me.
Very similar to my current Samsung tv settings. Does the Backlight go to 20?[/QUOTE]


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According to this review, the h8000 uses the SPVA panel, so I'm thinking that the black levels will be good to excellent.

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According to this review, the h8000 uses the SPVA panel, so I'm thinking that the black levels will be good to excellent.
I'm unable to attach the link but Rtings.com has a very detailed review on a lot of tvs including the h8000. They give panel types and black uniformity and also compare uniformity with other similar models.
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This is the first time I have read the entire thread for a specific model tv and I can honestly say I'm impressed with 95% of the responses. Nearly all of you who own either the 55" or the 65" are reporting great uniformity, very little clouding/flashlighting and very good black levels. It doesn't seem to matter which panel(tdxx/tsxx) you have as both seem to be pretty good.

There has been some complaints pertaining to input lag, but I'm assuming it has to do with gaming. I'm not a gamer so that wouldn't bother me. I don't care about 3d either.

The only Samsung tv I've had was the UN46B8500 full array local dimming. Alas that tv developed a panel problem(vertical multi-colored lines on half of the panel). I had it repaired under warranty but it was never the same . That was in 2011 and I've stayed away from Samsung since

The only other brand I've owned is Sony(kdl46nx720 still going strong). I recently bought an xbr55x850b 4k Sony in early July and returned it after a week because of horrible clouding/flashlighting. A replacement was sent and two weeks later it was also returned for the same issues(refund).

I would like to say that because of all of the positive responses concerning the H8000 I strongly believe that i'm going to give Samsung another shot. My preferred place of purchase is Crutchfield. If the Sammy doesn't work out they have a 60 day money back guarantee.

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This is the first time I have read the entire thread for a specific model tv and I can honestly say I'm impressed with 95% of the responses. Nearly all of you who own either the 55" or the 65" are reporting great uniformity, very little clouding/flashlighting and very good black levels. It doesn't seem to matter which panel(tdxx/tsxx) you have as both seem to be pretty good.

There has been some complaints pertaining to input lag, but I'm assuming it has to do with gaming. I'm not a gamer so that wouldn't bother me. I don't care about 3d either.

The only Samsung tv I've had was the UN46B8500 full array local dimming. Alas that tv developed a panel problem(vertical multi-colored lines on half of the panel). I had it repaired under warranty but it was never the same . That was in 2011 and I've stayed away from Samsung since

The only other brand I've owned is Sony(kdl46nx720 still going strong). I recently bought an xbr55x850b 4k Sony in early July and returned it after a week because of horrible clouding/flashlighting. A replacement was sent and two weeks later it was also returned for the same issues(refund).

I would like to say that because of all of the positive responses concerning the H8000 I strongly believe that i'm going to give Samsung another shot. My preferred place of purchase is Crutchfield. If the Sammy doesn't work out they have a 60 day money back guarantee.

Wish me luck

I believe you will love the TV. Let us know.
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Regarding the panels, is there any significant difference between the TD01/02 panels and the TS01/02? I'm pretty close on my decision for the un55h8000. I'm just trying to gather as much information as I can.

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Regarding the panels, is there any significant difference between the TD01/02 panels and the TS01/02? I'm pretty close on my decision for the un55h8000. I'm just trying to gather as much information as I can.
Not sure on the difference but I believe TD01/02 is only on the 65".
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Not sure on the difference but I believe TD01/02 is only on the 65".
Is the TS01/02 a good panel and is it made by Samsung?

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Not sure on the difference but I believe TD01/02 is only on the 65".
Is the TS01/02 a good panel and is it made by Samsung?
TS01/02 is made by Samsung as well as TD01/02. They are both good panels.
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TS01/02 is made by Samsung as well as TD01/02. They are both good panels.
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TS01/02 is made by Samsung as well as TD01/02. They are both good panels.
Many thanks Ancient.
No problem. Give us your take on the 55" when you get it up and running.
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No problem. Give us your take on the 55" when you get it up and running.
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I got a 65H8000

I got mine about 7 days ago. Its the US version. Its a TD02.


I like the TV, but then I also don't like it. I was VERY leary about getting a SAMSUNG..I have Panasonic Plasma (that I love) & an older Mitshubishi LCD. I LOVE the 3D on this. I LOVE the SMARTness and the apps.


I think the picture is good, but Damn it needs a real tune (mine is in the basement and its darker down there...LOL). I do have setting that I can live with.


I have tried many tunes. I have tried some in this thread. I think its best to use the "auto" setting for the 10-point. Bottom line for me is that my AVR equipment is not playing friendly with it (that bugs the living crap out of me).


Samsung must HATE Pioneer or vice-versa. To me it's a travesty that this TV wants to force the use of an optical connection to my SC-72 (SC-72 is a 2013 receiver and an awesome one at that). I have switched the receiver to allow ARC...I have played with the DVI HDMI input and other video conversion settings on my receiver and this TV just will not support true HDMI discovery/ARC with my Pioneer. I will NOT use an Optical cable to make it happy. Instead I have to move the input manually to get them all to "play nice in the sand box".


My Panasonic sure had no issues with Pioneer!!!


I am on the fence about taking this back...I like the TV. My Pioneer BDP-62FD Blu-Ray gets detected by the TV and will auto switch to the proper input, but its slow and you see the stupid on-screen msg about the source not present (that's crap and SLOW!). Also when watching a BD the 16:9 black bars sometimes go in and out between "full screen" while playing the same movie. I want "full" not black bars. Cant seem to get that sorted even with the SmartBD option turned off.


Basically, I will be calling Pioneer, but I think it's the TV. If I have to hook up an optical just to get the units to talk outside of pure HDMI then I say "F" this TV!!! I surely value my Pioneer elite AVR better than the TV!


I have all HDMI 2.0 high end cables.


BTW: If you want to reset this TV back to "out of box settings" then you need the PIN number. I called Samsung last night. the PIN is 0000 (4 zeros).


If I can get the thing to like Pioneer then I am keeping it...it is a nice picture when It wants to be. I still want real tune settings for a dark room however,


Sorry for the long read, but please someone "help" me with the Pioneer stuff and I will love this TV.


I also have a PS4 and it works with Game mode on or off, but Game mode seems better.
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^^^^More on what I think my issue may be

I am guessing (hoping) Pioneer can help. If I try to use true ARC and hook Verizon, PS4, and BD to TV, then take TV to SC-72 I would only get Dolby 5.1 from Apps and get 2.0 from PCM(also would require optical as well) instead of full 7.1 HD sound with one HDMI. I realize I can switch receiver to an input and get both via an HDMI, but TV wont allow it automatically without conversion that will create input-lag that will make video and audio suffer for different things(IE: video lag to great for games & Audio would not be HD to allow for proper streamed video). I also still have no idea how to make the Input on this H8000 be PC??? Does anyone know if I can use the Receiver's 2 separate HDMI "outputs" go to TV instead of TV to AVR "Inputs"? That way I would have audio and video HDMI split? I am not a pro here by any means.
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Well I'm 90% sure I'm going to get the 55h8000. I'll do two more days of research and make my decision on Monday 9/8. If I order I'll pray to the Samsung Gods that I get a good panel.

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Well I'm 90% sure I'm going to get the 55h8000. I'll do two more days of research and make my decision on Monday 9/8. If I order I'll pray to the Samsung Gods that I get a good panel.
I'm fairly certain the h8000 has only Samsung Panels in them. TD01/02 in the 65" and TS01/02 in the 48" and 55".
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I'm fairly certain the h8000 has only Samsung Panels in them. TD01/02 in the 65" and TS01/02 in the 48" and 55".
That's good to know. I may even splurge and get the 65"

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I'm fairly certain the h8000 has only Samsung Panels in them. TD01/02 in the 65" and TS01/02 in the 48" and 55".
That's good to know. I may even splurge and get the 65"

Same here. I've been looking at many different tvs over the last few months and I keep coming back to the h8000. I don't necessarily like the curve but it's very subtle and the alternative doesn't compete with the PQ.
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I wonder if the menu in the h8000 is the same as the menu in the f8000. If it is, I would use the settings(if I get the h8000)from the CNET review of the f8000.

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I have read 3 different reviews(they were for the UE55H8000 European version)and all three reviewers said basically the same thing. The Samsung H8000 is the best 1080 HDTV on the market.

I guess it's time to s#*t or get off the pot. Tomorrow I will order the Samsung UN55H8000. I'm confident I'll get a good panel.

I'll keep everyone posted so stay tuned.

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Does anyone know how to turn off these annoying fantasy football and verizon ads that pop up during football? I didn't buy a tv to be annoyed by pop up ads, goodness!
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Hi All,

I've only ever had Sony's and most recently bought a 65" X9 4k. The set is amazing in every regard EXCEPT motion resolution. It's ok for tv and films but awful for video games. I suspect this is a combination of high lcd latency and upscaling. Game mode has low input lag but the motion blur is terrible when playing FPS'. I play with interpolation turned on and it helps a good bit but it's still pretty bad, especially on 30fps games, and lag is way up.

So, I'm selling the TV, which is heartbreaking. I use my tv primarily for games and can't deal with the blur. My sony from 2010 was much better in terms of motion but the picture was obviously not nearly as good. I'm seriously considering the Samsung h8000 because my understanding is that Samsung's in general have better motion handling and this particular set is best.

My question is for gamers. What is the motion blur like in game mode and have you played with AMP on? Is it better with a tolerable latency? I don't play competitively so even 100ms doesn't bother me. But motion blur kills the experience. Many gamers said they thought the x9 was great for gaming, but clearly they're not sensitive to blur. I'd love to get some candid responses regarding motion blur and gaming on this set. Thanks!

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Just noticed the 65" is out of stock on Amazon.
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I just read this in the H8000 users manual. Is this something I would really have to worry about?

Still image warning
Constantly displaying still pictures can cause image burn-in on the LED screen. Follow the recommendations below:
Avoid displaying the same tv channel for long periods.
Always try to display any image in full screen.
Reduce the brightness and contrast to avoid the appearance of after-images.

Preventing burn-in
Avoid keeping a still picture or a picture with static elements(black bars, black borders, logos etc)on your tv for more than two hours at a time. If that's unavoidable, change the picture or change to another channel for a minute or two every couple of hours. Reducing the brightness and contrast of the when it's displaying static elements will also help.

Nowadays almost every channel has their logo on the screen and most channels have the black letterbox bars. Channels like ESPN(sports ticker)CNN(news ticker & stocks etc)are always displaying.

I'm hoping someone can reassure me that this is not really a problem, I want a tv that I can enjoy watching, not a tv that I constantly have to babysit. I thought image retention and burn-in only happened on plasma tv's. I got rid of a Panasonic plasma for the same reasons listed above. I've had my Sony KDL-46NX720 for 3 years and never noticed any image retention or burn-in at all.

I haven't ordered yet, but if this is going to be a problem then I'll have to pass.

I'm hoping someone can help.

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I just read this in the H8000 users manual. Is this something I would really have to worry about?

Still image warning
Constantly displaying still pictures can cause image burn-in on the LED screen. Follow the recommendations below:
Avoid displaying the same tv channel for long periods.
Always try to display any image in full screen.
Reduce the brightness and contrast to avoid the appearance of after-images.

Preventing burn-in
Avoid keeping a still picture or a picture with static elements(black bars, black borders, logos etc)on your tv for more than two hours at a time. If that's unavoidable, change the picture or change to another channel for a minute or two every couple of hours. Reducing the brightness and contrast of the when it's displaying static elements will also help.

Nowadays almost every channel has their logo on the screen and most channels have the black letterbox bars. Channels like ESPN(sports ticker)CNN(news ticker & stocks etc)are always displaying.

I'm hoping someone can reassure me that this is not really a problem, I want a tv that I can enjoy watching, not a tv that I constantly have to babysit. I thought image retention and burn-in only happened on plasma tv's. I got rid of a Panasonic plasma for the same reasons listed above. I've had my Sony KDL-46NX720 for 3 years and never noticed any image retention or burn-in at all.

I haven't ordered yet, but if this is going to be a problem then I'll have to pass.

I'm hoping someone can help.

Thanks much.
While it's technically possible to burn in a LCD panel, it's not going to happen. That language is there purely for legal purposes. Burn in just isn't going to happen. Ever. One of the reasons plasmas are going off of the market is due to the burn in resistance of LCDs. And there is nothing different about the Samsung panel that makes it more susceptible.

Trust me, don't think twice about it. I've had lcd monitors playing the same content on loops for years on end without issue (demo material). And if it were an issue, there would be no tv on the market that anyone could buy.

It's entirely possible that language is just a hold over from the manual the company did for their plasma and no-one thought to take it out.
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While it's technically possible to burn in a LCD panel, it's not going to happen. That language is there purely for legal purposes. Burn in just isn't going to happen. Ever. One of the reasons plasmas are going off of the market is due to the burn in resistance of LCDs. And there is nothing different about the Samsung panel that makes it more susceptible.

Trust me, don't think twice about it. I've had lcd monitors playing the same content on loops for years on end without issue (demo material). And if it were an issue, there would be no tv on the market that anyone could buy.

It's entirely possible that language is just a hold over from the manual the company did for their plasma and no-one thought to take it out.
That eases my mind. I only posted that info because I had a plasma that did develop image retention and some minor burn-in. Like I said, I've had my Sony 46nx720 for 3+ years and never noticed any image retention or burn-in and my tv is on constantly.

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I'm a gamer and just recently purchased the un55h8000afxzc. Is it normal that the input lag change randomly while in game mode? Most of the time i am around 50ms then by just clicking the menu button on the remote, the input lag come down to 30ms. It really weird, then after a while, the input lag goes back 50ms, i have even hit 90ms while in game mode. It so inconsistant and not sure what to do about this.. That the only thing bugging me with this tv, otherwise the image is perfect for me.

i also notice that when i shut down the tv and put it back on, the input lag will also vary, it like something is working in background cause the variation

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I read somewhere in this thread that you can find out what panel you have. Is it on the back of the tv where the model number is, or is it on the box that the tv comes in? Can someone point me to that post?

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Both. It will say Version or Version #. TS01/TD01/TH01/CH01/US01, etc.
I believe the Versions that start with "T" are Samsung Panels.

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Hey everyone,

So in about 6-10 days I will be the proud owner of a H8000. My UN46D7000 completely gave out and after a lengthy warranty process with Samsung (initiated back in February) they will be delivering the unit shortly. I had the option between this model and the H7150, and chose the larger 48" curved over the older flat display. Does anyone have any advice upon receipt of the unit? I plan on using my existing wall mount, is that ill-advised?

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