Toshiba 4K 65L9400/65Z9X and Vizio 65" Reference Series 10-bit Panel - Page 4 - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #91 of 252 Old 05-01-2014, 01:33 PM
AVS Special Member
 
fafrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,643
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 311
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by BBBB1111 View Post

Is 65L9400 going to be  better  from Samsung HU9000 65  ???
Something with an explanation 
From the specifications we know so far the Toshiba certainly seems like it has the potential to have better picture quality than the Samsung mostly due to a vastly superior backlight design, but advantages on paper don't always show up in reality.

Both are currently slated to be in the Value Electronics shoot-out which takes place at the end of June / beginning of July. After that we will definitely know which is better

And the 55" Toshiba L7400U as well as the 65" Vizio M-Series will both hopefully be out this month, so while they are both 'only' 1080p versus the 4K resolution of the HU9000 and L9400U, those two sets will hopefully provide some early insight into the local dimming performance of the 2014 crop of FALD LED/LCDs (of which the HU9000 is not a member, it will likely have dark-level / shadow detail performance very similar to this year F8000).
fafrd is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #92 of 252 Old 05-01-2014, 01:37 PM
Member
 
dabotsonline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 70
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked: 19
I know you guys are concentrating on Toshiba's 65" models but I'm interested in the price positioning for the 50" model.

From what I've gathered in this thread:

50Z9X is Japanese model number, and is out now for 288,000 yen - equivalent of $2800 USD.
50L9400 or 50L9400U will be US model number and 50L9400UC will be Canadian model number.
Either or both may feature inferior specs (such as no 3D support whatsoever, but TBC) but may be priced well below $2800 to compensate.

50Z9X:

May require the 4500 yen / $44 FPT-AGT1 device plus active glasses for 3D
10ms input lag
No Japanese reviews so cannot comment on motion blur or other picture characteristics
HDMI-2 input has ARC Audio Return Channel, HDMI 2.0 at 18Gbps
Supports up to 2160p60 4:2:2 12-bit colour depth with greater than Rec.709 but less than Rec.2020 colour gamut
288 or 384 (TBC) zones of FALD Full Array Local Dimming backlighting
HDR High Dynamic Range but not certified for Dolby Vision

Am I right?
dabotsonline is offline  
post #93 of 252 Old 05-01-2014, 01:50 PM
Member
 
proyal's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 172
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 17
proyal is offline  
post #94 of 252 Old 05-01-2014, 01:58 PM
Member
 
BBBB1111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 54
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10

Thank you friends
Three dimensional ?  yes/no 

BBBB1111 is offline  
post #95 of 252 Old 05-01-2014, 02:03 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Stereodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Detroit Metro Area
Posts: 9,665
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 331 Post(s)
Liked: 384
Quote:
Originally Posted by dabotsonline View Post

I know you guys are concentrating on Toshiba's 65" models but I'm interested in the price positioning for the 50" model.

From what I've gathered in this thread:

50Z9X is Japanese model number, and is out now for 288,000 yen - equivalent of $2800 USD.
50L9400 or 50L9400U will be US model number and 50L9400UC will be Canadian model number.
Either or both may feature inferior specs (such as no 3D support whatsoever, but TBC) but may be priced well below $2800 to compensate.

50Z9X:

May require the 4500 yen / $44 FPT-AGT1 device plus active glasses for 3D
10ms input lag
No Japanese reviews so cannot comment on motion blur or other picture characteristics
HDMI-2 input has ARC Audio Return Channel, HDMI 2.0 at 18Gbps
Supports up to 2160p60 4:2:2 12-bit colour depth with greater than Rec.709 but less than Rec.2020 colour gamut
288 or 384 (TBC) zones of FALD Full Array Local Dimming backlighting
HDR High Dynamic Range but not certified for Dolby Vision

Am I right?
AFAIK, there is no 50" model planned for North America. Just 58" and 65" for the L9400U(C). However, your summary generally looks okay.
Stereodude is online now  
post #96 of 252 Old 05-01-2014, 02:08 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Stereodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Detroit Metro Area
Posts: 9,665
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 331 Post(s)
Liked: 384
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBBB1111 View Post

Thank you friends

Three dimensional ?  yes/no 
We don't really know. The CES press release does not mention 3D for the US market for the L9400U. The preliminary Canadian brochure for the 65L9400UC also doesn't mention 3D. However, the Japanese Z9X model that the L9400U is based on has 3D.

It is possible 3D has been removed for North America, or perhaps 3D is not considered a selling point any more so it is not mentioned.
Stereodude is online now  
post #97 of 252 Old 05-01-2014, 02:19 PM
Member
 
BBBB1111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 54
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10

i need 3D 

BBBB1111 is offline  
post #98 of 252 Old 05-01-2014, 02:28 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Stereodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Detroit Metro Area
Posts: 9,665
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 331 Post(s)
Liked: 384
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBBB1111 View Post

i need 3D 
Well, I'm sure Samsung, Sony, and LG are sure to have some UHD 3D sets to sell you if the Toshiba end up not having 3D in North America.
Stereodude is online now  
post #99 of 252 Old 05-07-2014, 11:07 AM
Member
 
albani's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Antalya/Turkey
Posts: 98
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I do not need 3D too!

just ı want;very impressive PQ+FALD panel

not require any other facilities,ı just sit and watch movie,sport and "others" are not necessary

so ı'm stil happy with my 2009 model Tosh SV panel with "FALD"!! PQ are great,motion awesome,she is look a like PDP panel! "movies" are fine:p
for me no rush to upgrade any other panel

well my target is "OLED" as well but its very pricey! do not "worth" at present

++

Tosh 46SV685&Tosh 42WL863

Panasonic BluRay BDT320EG&Toshiba BluRay BDX5400

albani is offline  
post #100 of 252 Old 05-08-2014, 10:19 AM - Thread Starter
Advanced Member
 
sytech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 975
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Liked: 114
Some early reviews of the 58ZX9, with 288 LEDs, are starting to come in. So far there are many things to like about it. The extended dynamic range is said to noticeable and to add top level color and contrast. No clouding and virtually no haloing. Confirmed to support Studio Master 1080p 4:4:4 video quality. It also supports "4K 60p 4:2:2 12bit input" and "4K 60p 4:4:4 8bit". Few disadvantage is only HDMI input #3 appears to have HDCP 2.2. All HDMI ports are at least HDMI 2.0 though. The 65ZX9, with more than 300 LEDs, should start showing up by the end of May in Japan and probably late June in the USA as a stripped down 65L9400 model. If the Vizio R is not released this year, this might be the next best thing.
sytech is offline  
post #101 of 252 Old 05-08-2014, 10:35 AM
AVS Special Member
 
fafrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,643
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 311
Quote:
Originally Posted by sytech View Post

Some early reviews of the 58ZX9, with 288 LEDs, are starting to come in. So far there are many things to like about it. The extended dynamic range is said to noticeable and to add top level color and contrast. No clouding and virtually no haloing. Confirmed to support Studio Master 1080p 4:4:4 video quality. It also supports "4K 60p 4:2:2 12bit input" and "4K 60p 4:4:4 8bit". Few disadvantage is only HDMI input #3 appears to have HDCP 2.2. All HDMI ports are at least HDMI 2.0 though. The 65ZX9, with more than 300 LEDs, should start showing up by the end of May in Japan and probably late June in the USA as a stripped down 65L9400 model. If the Vizio R is not released this year, this might be the next best thing.

Very encouraging. Can you share the links (realize they will be in Japanese)?

Anything on contrast ratio? Viewing angle? Is the reference to the 300+ LEDs on the 65" ZX9 confirmed or still speculation?

I believe the 58" L9400U will be sold in the US as well, so if the 58" is already out in Japan and is about a month ahead of the 65" ZX9, we will probably see the 58" L9400U over here first, possibly by the end of this month.

Unless Toshiba made the bone-headed decision to lobotomize the local dimming performance of the 65ZX9 in creating the L9400U, believe this TV could be the sleeper hit of the 2014 season and should define a solid baseline in terms of performance / price.
fafrd is offline  
post #102 of 252 Old 05-08-2014, 10:47 AM - Thread Starter
Advanced Member
 
sytech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 975
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Liked: 114
Quote:
Originally Posted by fafrd View Post

Very encouraging. Can you share the links (realize they will be in Japanese)?

Anything on contrast ratio? Viewing angle? Is the reference to the 300+ LEDs on the 65" ZX9 confirmed or still speculation?

I believe the 58" L9400U will be sold in the US as well, so if the 58" is already out in Japan and is about a month ahead of the 65" ZX9, we will probably see the 58" L9400U over here first, possibly by the end of this month.

Unless Toshiba made the bone-headed decision to lobotomize the local dimming performance of the 65ZX9 in creating the L9400U, believe this TV could be the sleeper hit of the 2014 season and should define a solid baseline in terms of performance / price.

Most of them are consumer comments of people that have received the 50ZX9 and 58ZX9 on 2chan boards. The translations get a little murky, but the general consenus seems the PQ is excellent. No word on if it does any internal HEVC decoding, but I am leaning towards no.

Here is some more in depth review of the pre-production units at the press conference last month.

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.phileweb.com/review/article/201405/02/1171.html%26client%3Dubuntu%26hs%3DHH8%26channel%3Dfs&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&u=http://www.phileweb.com/review/article/201405/02/1171.html&usg=ALkJrhhkzeeKJeeswUf2vmHGDNuvl-BtKQ
sytech is offline  
post #103 of 252 Old 05-08-2014, 12:22 PM
AVS Special Member
 
fafrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,643
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 311
Quote:
Originally Posted by sytech View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by fafrd View Post

Very encouraging. Can you share the links (realize they will be in Japanese)?

Anything on contrast ratio? Viewing angle? Is the reference to the 300+ LEDs on the 65" ZX9 confirmed or still speculation?

I believe the 58" L9400U will be sold in the US as well, so if the 58" is already out in Japan and is about a month ahead of the 65" ZX9, we will probably see the 58" L9400U over here first, possibly by the end of this month.

Unless Toshiba made the bone-headed decision to lobotomize the local dimming performance of the 65ZX9 in creating the L9400U, believe this TV could be the sleeper hit of the 2014 season and should define a solid baseline in terms of performance / price.

Most of them are consumer comments of people that have received the 50ZX9 and 58ZX9 on 2chan boards. The translations get a little murky, but the general consenus seems the PQ is excellent. No word on if it does any internal HEVC decoding, but I am leaning towards no.

Here is some more in depth review of the pre-production units at the press conference last month.

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.phileweb.com/review/article/201405/02/1171.html%26client%3Dubuntu%26hs%3DHH8%26channel%3Dfs&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&u=http://www.phileweb.com/review/article/201405/02/1171.html&usg=ALkJrhhkzeeKJeeswUf2vmHGDNuvl-BtKQ

Thanks. Sounds promising. 700 Nits and a true 480Hz effective refresh rate would result in 175 Nits - plenty bright and should result in pretty good persistence / motion blur performance. And lag of '0.6 frames' hopefully translates in 10ms.

All this 'time shift' technology they have bundled with the Japanese Z9X set is hopefully the lion's share of the technology they have stripped out of the US L9400U.
fafrd is offline  
post #104 of 252 Old 05-09-2014, 02:39 AM
Member
 
BBBB1111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 54
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10

What is the difference between

Z9X  vs   L9400U  ?

true 480Hz ? all the 4k with 120hz or 240 hz what is 480 hz ?

 

Quote:
700 Nits and a true 480Hz effective refresh rate would result in 175 Nits

how from 700nit you get onle 175 nit

BBBB1111 is offline  
post #105 of 252 Old 05-09-2014, 03:19 AM
Member
 
proyal's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 172
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 17

5,7,8,9 series from Toshiba should have real 240Hz.

 

There are no 480Hz screens as far as i know.

But in Japan maybe ... for Europe and USA definitely no.

But we wait and see. Until then it's all speculation.

 

Number of dimming zones on L7400 / L9400 ? (depending on size)

proyal is offline  
post #106 of 252 Old 05-09-2014, 03:25 AM
Member
 
proyal's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 172
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 17

However if the panel is below 10ms or even 10 then it's the fastest TV ever. Hopefully it's on L7400 too.

 

http://realestate.aol.com/blog/videos/real-estate/429840780/

proyal is offline  
post #107 of 252 Old 05-09-2014, 05:14 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Stereodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Detroit Metro Area
Posts: 9,665
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 331 Post(s)
Liked: 384
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBBB1111 View Post

What is the difference between

Z9X  vs   L9400U  ?



true 480Hz ? all the 4k with 120hz or 240 hz what is 480 hz ?
Well, it seems the L9400U has less multimedia related inputs than the Z9X (1 USB instead of 4, no SDXC slot). The L9400U seems to lack 3D. The L9400U lacks the 6 tuner time machine thing the Z9X has. In terms of actual image quality features, it's hard to say. I would like to think Toshiba isn't watering down the image quality for North America or other regions in the world, but companies have been known to do stupid things.
Stereodude is online now  
post #108 of 252 Old 05-09-2014, 05:25 AM
Member
 
BBBB1111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 54
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
The L9400U seems to lack 3D

Now you say there is no 3D? 
It's not serious

BBBB1111 is offline  
post #109 of 252 Old 05-09-2014, 05:32 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Stereodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Detroit Metro Area
Posts: 9,665
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 331 Post(s)
Liked: 384
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBBB1111 View Post

Now you say there is no 3D? 

It's not serious
Yes, I'm serious. It's not mentioned in the CES press release for the L9400U and it's not mentioned in the Canadian brochure for the L9400UC. I would think it would at least get a mention somewhere if they had 3D.
Stereodude is online now  
post #110 of 252 Old 05-09-2014, 10:02 AM
Senior Member
 
vaxick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 265
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 18
The more I read, the more I am getting excited for this TV.
vaxick is offline  
post #111 of 252 Old 05-09-2014, 10:47 AM
AVS Special Member
 
fafrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,643
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 311
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBBB1111 View Post

What is the difference between

Z9X  vs   L9400U  ?



true 480Hz ? all the 4k with 120hz or 240 hz what is 480 hz ?
Quote:
700 Nits and a true 480Hz effective refresh rate would result in 175 Nits
how from 700nit you get onle 175 nit

700 / 4 = 175 biggrin.gif

I believe the L9400U is a panel with a 120Hz natural refresh rate (like the Vizio P and R).

Using a scanning backlight to reduce pixel ON time (persistence) from 8.4ms to 2.1ms will result in a 'true' effective refresh rate of 480Hz and a 75% reduction in brightness.

The Vizio Reference Series, with it's 800 Nit backlight, should be able to deliver similar motion-blur-reduction performance.
fafrd is offline  
post #112 of 252 Old 05-09-2014, 10:52 AM
Newbie
 
absolutpat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by vaxick View Post

The more I read, the more I am getting excited for this TV.

Same here! But sadly, i think vizio has no plans for the european, or exept the market in switzerland. I'm very intrested in the R Series too!
absolutpat is online now  
post #113 of 252 Old 05-09-2014, 10:54 AM
AVS Special Member
 
fafrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,643
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 311
Quote:
Originally Posted by absolutpat View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by vaxick View Post

The more I read, the more I am getting excited for this TV.

Same here! But sadly, i think vizio has no plans for the european, or exept the market in switzerland. I'm very intrested in the R Series too!

I believe vaxick was referring to the Toshiba L9400U...
fafrd is offline  
post #114 of 252 Old 05-09-2014, 11:59 AM
Member
 
BBBB1111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 54
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
700 / 4 = 175 biggrin.gif
So why divide by 4?
BBBB1111 is offline  
post #115 of 252 Old 05-09-2014, 02:47 PM
AVS Special Member
 
fafrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,643
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 311
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBBB1111 View Post

Quote:
700 / 4 = 175 biggrin.gif
So why divide by 4?

If the native refresh rate of the panel is 120Hz (like the Vizio R Series) then an effective refresh rate of 480Hz is achieved by reducing pixel ON time (persistence) from 100% (8.4ms) to 25% (2.1ms). The other 75% (6.3ms) of the time the backlight segment is OFF, meaning that light output is reduced to 25% (100% divided by 4 biggrin.gif).

Some are claiming that the Toshiba L9400U has a native refresh rate of 240Hz (in which case it cannot be the same panel as that used in the Vizio Reference Series) - if that is so then an effective refresh rate of 480Hz would be achieved by reducing pixel persistence by 50% (with a corresponding 50% reduction in peak light output to 350 Nit).
fafrd is offline  
post #116 of 252 Old 05-09-2014, 02:51 PM
Member
 
proyal's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 172
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by fafrd View Post


If the native refresh rate of the panel is 120Hz (like the Vizio R Series) then an effective refresh rate of 480Hz is achieved by reducing pixel ON time (persistence) from 100% (8.4ms) to 25% (2.1ms). The other 75% (6.3ms) of the time the backlight segment is OFF, meaning that light output is reduced to 25% (100% divided by 4 biggrin.gif).

Some are claiming that the Toshiba L9400U has a native refresh rate of 240Hz (in which case it cannot be the same panel as that used in the Vizio Reference Series) - if that is so then an effective refresh rate of 480Hz would be achieved by reducing pixel persistence by 50% (with a corresponding 50% reduction in peak light output to 350 Nit).

More likely the screen can be used at 350 nits rather than 175 nits wouldn't you say ?

proyal is offline  
post #117 of 252 Old 05-09-2014, 03:10 PM
AVS Special Member
 
fafrd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,643
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 311
Quote:
Originally Posted by proyal View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by fafrd View Post

If the native refresh rate of the panel is 120Hz (like the Vizio R Series) then an effective refresh rate of 480Hz is achieved by reducing pixel ON time (persistence) from 100% (8.4ms) to 25% (2.1ms). The other 75% (6.3ms) of the time the backlight segment is OFF, meaning that light output is reduced to 25% (100% divided by 4 biggrin.gif ).


Some are claiming that the Toshiba L9400U has a native refresh rate of 240Hz (in which case it cannot be the same panel as that used in the Vizio Reference Series) - if that is so then an effective refresh rate of 480Hz would be achieved by reducing pixel persistence by 50% (with a corresponding 50% reduction in peak light output to 350 Nit).
More likely the screen can be used at 350 nits rather than 175 nits wouldn't you say ?

Even 175 Nits is plenty bright for just about any viewing situation - what user options they offer to trade off increased brightness against increased motion blur (persistence) is anyone's guess until the first owners' report.

Figuring out native panel refresh is tougher, but if they offer several different setting of motion interpolation (whatever Toshiba call's it) from OTA 60fps input that would generally mean a native refresh rate of 240Hz. If there is only motion interpolation ON or OFF from 60fps OTA input, that would indicate a panel with a native refresh rate of 120Hz.
proyal likes this.
fafrd is offline  
post #118 of 252 Old 05-10-2014, 09:07 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Stereodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Detroit Metro Area
Posts: 9,665
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 331 Post(s)
Liked: 384
I've noticed a few other differences about the L9400U vs. the Z9X. The Z9X has no mention of HEVC/H.265, which people seem to be complaining about. It also seems to have one HDMI input (#3) that's not the full HDMI 2.0, but HDMI 1.4 w/ MHL.

The PR from CES for the L9400U says:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toshiba 
...In addition, for 2014 Toshiba has incorporated HDMI 2.0 for 4K at 60 fps, HDCP 2.2 to help ensure access to premium content over HDMI, and H.265 HEVC to allow streaming of 4K Ultra HD content directly to the TV...

So, maybe the US version isn't so much watered down as it is different features for a different market.
Stereodude is online now  
post #119 of 252 Old 05-10-2014, 12:17 PM - Thread Starter
Advanced Member
 
sytech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 975
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Liked: 114
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

I've noticed a few other differences about the L9400U vs. the Z9X. The Z9X has no mention of HEVC/H.265, which people seem to be complaining about. It also seems to have one HDMI input (#3) that's not the full HDMI 2.0, but HDMI 1.4 w/ MHL.

The PR from CES for the L9400U says:
So, maybe the US version isn't so much watered down as it is different features for a different market.

On the 50" and 58" Z9X they are saying no dedicated built in h.265 decoder. It would be nice if it was built in, but you could just get a decoder box for streaming or the 4K Blu-ray players should have one. Also, is there the possibility to add it with a firmware upgrade? If you have a fast enough processor you should be able to do it in software instead of needing dedicated chip set. I would think next year's model will have it built in.

Amazon Japan has "This item will be released on May 20, 2014" for the 65Z9X So hopefully we will start getting some info soon, if it lives up to the marketing hype.
sytech is offline  
post #120 of 252 Old 05-10-2014, 01:28 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Stereodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Detroit Metro Area
Posts: 9,665
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 331 Post(s)
Liked: 384
Quote:
Originally Posted by sytech View Post

On the 50" and 58" Z9X they are saying no dedicated built in h.265 decoder. It would be nice if it was built in, but you could just get a decoder box for streaming or the 4K Blu-ray players should have one. Also, is there the possibility to add it with a firmware upgrade? If you have a fast enough processor you should be able to do it in software instead of needing dedicated chip set. I would think next year's model will have it built in.

Amazon Japan has "This item will be released on May 20, 2014" for the 65Z9X So hopefully we will start getting some info soon, if it lives up to the marketing hype.
Well, since I don't live in the Japan and Toshiba says the L9400U will have it, I'm not too concerned if the Z9X gets it via a firmware update or not. smile.gif
Stereodude is online now  
Reply LCD Flat Panel Displays

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off