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First review of 58z9x. Have just taken a quick glance. Damn, seems like it has some uniformity issues. mad.gif

http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/series/dg/20140605_651809.html
It does seem to have darker edges. It's hard to tell exactly how bad it is from that single green picture. Cameras generally vignette some as well, so the picture could make it looks worse than it really is, or it could be that bad.

I didn't run the translator, but I assume this is the picture you are talking about:

Bummer - let's hope they did a better job on the 65"
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from the  Translation the screen  has      xvColor

it'e true ?  i love  xvColor

 

I did not understand why 2560 x 1440 /60 ?

The screen does not work like Samsung and Converter to 2160p /60 ?

 

Not Specified 8/10/12 bit ?

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from the  Translation the screen has      xvColor
it'e true ?  i love  xvColor

I did not understand why 2560 x 1440 /60 ?
The screen does not work like Samsung and Converter to 2160p /60 ?

Not Specified 8/10/12 bit ?


Yes x.v.color. Don't know if that has to be on the use the 4K wide color restore, which they seemed to be impressed with.

It was 2560x1440/60 because that was the max his PC/GPU could put out over HDMI.

It is a native10 bit panel but can process 12-bit signal/color I think.

That uniformity is a bummer, but this is the 58 and not 65 also I think they may have cranked up the back light. If you translate it using Google under the green picture it say slight uniformity issue, but it is easy to see in the pic so who knows.
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It is a native10 bit panel but can process 12-bit signal/color I think

I'm sorry to ask but how can analyze 12 BIT? If this 10 BIT panel ?

 

If Toshiba will not succeed in this series  Department of televisions will fall apart 

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I'm sorry to ask but how can analyze 12 BIT? If this 10 BIT panel ?

If Toshiba will not succeed in this series  Department of televisions will fall apart 


I am not quite sure, but I think it involves the Pure Direct Mode processing 4:4:4: 1080p 12-bit color data.

At the same, it's a feature a maniac, but do only when you have HDMI inputs a video of 4:4:4 chroma format of 1080p resolution, it is now choose the setting called "Pure Direct" in "1080p image quality mode" setting. This is intended to be a full 12-bit processing, and what was done to the image quality correction from captured in 10-bit depth of the input image in the processing pipeline of the image of the conventional engine. (Such as fine texture restoration), double-speed interpolation frame insertion also turned off some of the super-resolution processing noise reduction processing related all turned off at the time of this mode. The recognition that a good mode ...... that performs image processing on the assumption this mode, the baseband video as immune to noise, and is inputted. The effect, two bits, ie calculation accuracy at the time of image processing has become four times higher accuracy. It was that of a good when you used when viewing Blu-ray, such as "Mastered in 4K" and "MGVC" standard in the description of Toshiba.


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 Pure Direct Mode processing 4:4:4: 1080p 12-bit color data

BUT THIS 4K TV 

WHY 1080P ?

if i have video card 4k why i need 1080P ?

 

HDMI 2.0  Supports -4:4:4 12 bit  ? Or just 4:2:2   12 bit ?

 

I contacted to Toshiba and asked if the screen  released in June how there is no informing in  site  ?

Their answer does not have information

 

It does not smell good to me, if they sold in June 9400  Why not before  the World Cup  12.6  ?

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 Pure Direct Mode processing 4:4:4: 1080p 12-bit color data
BUT THIS 4K TV 
WHY 1080P ?
if i have video card 4k why i need 1080P ?

HDMI 2.0  Supports -4:4:4 12 bit  ? Or just 4:2:2   12 bit ?

I contacted to Toshiba and asked if the screen  released in June how there is no informing in  site  ?
Their answer does not have information

It does not smell good to me, if they sold in June 9400  Why not before  the World Cup  12.6  ?

You guys are confusing color resolution with color depth.

1080p 4:4:4 means each and every pixel has it's own red and green and blue pixel color. I believe blueray represents each of those colors in 8-bit-depth. So 1080p 4:4:4 has 24 bits of incoming data per pixel (8 bits per color

The Z8X converts that incoming signal to YCbCr with 10 bits of precision for Y, 10 bits of precision for Cb and 10 bits of precision for Cr (so 30 bits per pixel total)

And at the end of the computing chain, there a conversion back to an RGB colorspace at 10 bits of precision per color which is used to drive the LCD panel which is also 10 bits per LCD shutter.

Same story with the ZX9 except that it converts that incoming signal to YCbCr with 12 bits of precision for Y, 12 bits of precision for Cb and 12 bits of precision for Cr (so 36 bits per pixel total).

And at the end of the computing chain, there a conversion back to an RGB colorspace at 12 bits of precision per color which is used to drive the LCD panel which is probably also 12 bits per LCD shutter.

If the incoming signal is 30-bit (10 bits for each of R G B) or 36-bit (12 bits for each of R G B) UHD instead of 1080p, the story is the same. Except that in the case of 36-bit UHD, the Z8X will lose the two least significant bits since it is inly able to compute and display to 10 bit depth, while the Z9X will be able to maintain 12-bit color depth all the way from the incoming signal to the display.
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You guys are confusing color resolution with color depth.

1080p 4:4:4 means each and every pixel has it's own red and green and blue pixel color. I believe blueray represents each of those colors in 8-bit-depth. So 1080p 4:4:4 has 24 bits of incoming data per pixel (8 bits per color

The Z8X converts that incoming signal to YCbCr with 10 bits of precision for Y, 10 bits of precision for Cb and 10 bits of precision for Cr (so 30 bits per pixel total)

And at the end of the computing chain, there a conversion back to an RGB colorspace at 10 bits of precision per color which is used to drive the LCD panel which is also 10 bits per LCD shutter.

Same story with the ZX9 except that it converts that incoming signal to YCbCr with 12 bits of precision for Y, 12 bits of precision for Cb and 12 bits of precision for Cr (so 36 bits per pixel total).

And at the end of the computing chain, there a conversion back to an RGB colorspace at 12 bits of precision per color which is used to drive the LCD panel which is probably also 12 bits per LCD shutter.

If the incoming signal is 30-bit (10 bits for each of R G B) or 36-bit (12 bits for each of R G B) UHD instead of 1080p, the story is the same. Except that in the case of 36-bit UHD, the Z8X will lose the two least significant bits since it is inly able to compute and display to 10 bit depth, while the Z9X will be able to maintain 12-bit color depth all the way from the incoming signal to the display.
That's not entirely correct either. You aren't wrong per say for most of it though. 4:4:4, 4:2:0, and 4:2:2 are not bit depths. There is no implied bit depth from those numbers. You could have 8-bit 4:4:4 or 12-bit 4:2:0. They're a shorthand/slang representation of the chroma to luma pixel ratio of the various YCbCr chroma subsampling formats.

By the way, 4:4:4 is not RGB. It is YCbCr. Blu-Ray is YCbCr 4:2:0 in a 8-bit per "channel" format.
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The US model will not compare in any way to the Japanese variant. We will get a watered down version just like we did with the L7. It will probably just be the J9X.
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The US model will not compare in any way to the Japanese variant. We will get a watered down version just like we did with the L7. It will probably just be the J9X.
And you know this how? The L7400U is pretty much the Z8 without 3D and the timeshifting...
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The US model will not compare in any way to the Japanese variant. We will get a watered down version just like we did with the L7. It will probably just be the J9X.

I don't think Toshiba has another 65" 4K WCG/HDR display with FALD 700 Nits. The 65L9400U should be the 65Z9X equivalent with the removal of 3D and timeshift.
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You guys are confusing color resolution with color depth.

1080p 4:4:4 means each and every pixel has it's own red and green and blue pixel color. I believe blueray represents each of those colors in 8-bit-depth. So 1080p 4:4:4 has 24 bits of incoming data per pixel (8 bits per color

The Z8X converts that incoming signal to YCbCr with 10 bits of precision for Y, 10 bits of precision for Cb and 10 bits of precision for Cr (so 30 bits per pixel total)

And at the end of the computing chain, there a conversion back to an RGB colorspace at 10 bits of precision per color which is used to drive the LCD panel which is also 10 bits per LCD shutter.

Same story with the ZX9 except that it converts that incoming signal to YCbCr with 12 bits of precision for Y, 12 bits of precision for Cb and 12 bits of precision for Cr (so 36 bits per pixel total).

And at the end of the computing chain, there a conversion back to an RGB colorspace at 12 bits of precision per color which is used to drive the LCD panel which is probably also 12 bits per LCD shutter.

If the incoming signal is 30-bit (10 bits for each of R G B) or 36-bit (12 bits for each of R G B) UHD instead of 1080p, the story is the same. Except that in the case of 36-bit UHD, the Z8X will lose the two least significant bits since it is inly able to compute and display to 10 bit depth, while the Z9X will be able to maintain 12-bit color depth all the way from the incoming signal to the display.
That's not entirely correct either. You aren't wrong per say for most of it though. 4:4:4, 4:2:0, and 4:2:2 are not bit depths. There is no implied bit depth from those numbers. You could have 8-bit 4:4:4 or 12-bit 4:2:0. They're a shorthand/slang representation of the chroma to luma pixel ratio of the various YCbCr chroma subsampling formats.

By the way, 4:4:4 is not RGB. It is YCbCr. Blu-Ray is YCbCr 4:2:0 in a 8-bit per "channel" format.

Didn't realize that last bit, so thanks for educating me. On the difference between pixel resolution, pixel bit depth, and chroma resolution, that was the bit I was attempting to clarify (but obviously could have done a better job on 4:4:4 versus chroma-subsampled 4:2:2 and 4:2:0.

The main point is to distinguish the incoming video signal from all of the processing performed on that signal within the TVs processor from the subpixel bit depth on the panel itself.
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And you know this how? The L7400U is pretty much the Z8 without 3D and the timeshifting...

And without the same processor, styling, and picture quality. The L7 is the J8.
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I don't think Toshiba has another 65" 4K WCG/HDR display with FALD 700 Nits. The 65L9400U should be the 65Z9X equivalent with the removal of 3D and timeshift.

Look at the J9X. It has the same specs, and design, as the US L9. http://www.toshiba.co.jp/regza/lineup/z8/index_j.html
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And without the same processor, styling, and picture quality. The L7 is the J8.
We've been through this before. It has the same processor and the J8 doesn't have local area dimming. While the L7400U's local dimming isn't much to write home about with 8 zones, it does have it and the J8 doesn't.
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Look at the J9X. It has the same specs, and design, as the US L9. http://www.toshiba.co.jp/regza/lineup/z8/index_j.html
Except it's only available in 40", or does your conspiracy theory have some explanation for that?
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We've been through this before. It has the same processor and the J8 doesn't have local area dimming. While the L7400U's local dimming isn't much to write home about with 8 zones, it does have it and the J8 doesn't.
Except it's only available in 40", or does your conspiracy theory have some explanation for that?

I am sorry but it does not have the same processor. The menu is different, everything about it is different! It is not at all comparable to the higher end model. Why they only have a 40" size in Japan is beyond me, but I can guarantee you the L9 is not the Z9x. The J9 does too have local dimming. Your saying that they put the Z9x in the J9's frame and then removed 3d. Yea, that makes sense. Sorry how could I have been so blind?
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I am sorry but it does not have the same processor. The menu is different, everything about it is different! It is not at all comparable to the higher end model. Why they only have a 40" size in Japan is beyond me, but I can guarantee you the L9 is not the Z9x. The J9 does too have local dimming. Your saying that they put the Z9x in the J9's frame and then removed 3d. Yea, that makes sense. Sorry how could I have been so blind?
The J8 does not have local area dimming. Your refusal to accept reality doesn't change it for the rest of us.
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Also further proof that the L7 is not even remotely related to the Z8. The Z8 has a 480hz refresh rate, 4 usb ports, completely black frame, different input terminal layout, and it uses more power. Meanwhile, just like the J8, the L7 has 2 USB ports, 120hz refresh rate, same input terminal layout, and a silver frame. What are you not getting here?

Here is the back of the L7:



Now the Z8:





Completely different! Furthermore, the difference in layout suggests that they use a different mainboard, otherwise known as processor. Sorry, but you need to stop parading your propaganda.
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Tell it to someone who cares...
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Tell it to someone who cares...


Now that you have been proven wrong, suddenly you don't care. Ok. biggrin.gif
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Now that you have been proven wrong, suddenly you don't care. Ok. biggrin.gif
You haven't proven me wrong. It's just not worth arguing with you. Nothing I say is going to change your mind, so what's the point? A slightly different housing and a change to the inputs doesn't prove that the important guts of the set are different.

Wait, wait, wait... My bad the 65" L9400U is really a 40" J9X less 3D. They sprinkled Miracle-Gro on it and watered it.
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You haven't proven me wrong. It's just not worth arguing with you. Nothing I say is going to change your mind, so what's the point? A slightly different housing and a change to the inputs doesn't prove that the important guts of the set are different.

Wait, wait, wait... My bad the 65" L9400U is really a 40" J9X less 3D. They sprinkled Miracle-Gro on it and watered it.

Its not the J9X. Its the L9400U. Anyways, done arguing with someone who cant accept it when they are wrong.
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Look at the J9X. It has the same specs, and design, as the US L9. http://www.toshiba.co.jp/regza/lineup/z8/index_j.html

Largest J9X is 40". The 58 and 65Z9X are going to be our 58 and 65L9400U with the removal of the Timeshift and 3D. The Timeshift HDD is the small black box in the middle of the Z8 picture.
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Since when are Toshiba's Japanese models analogous to their US models? I was under that impression that since 2010 or so, Toshiba's US display division products have been developed separately and farmed out to Compal for manufacture/distribution.

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Hi

-above green background phot. seems unevenscreen unifomity, so is this panel "FALD"!(so ı just think about)
I'v FALD panel(SV6xx) uniformity off all colours perfect! no any issues

-anyway lets see more "user" reviews,we need this reviews and w'll understand whats happen with this new serie

-1440/60Hz is ok+(just think about GCard-PC use!)

-For EU market that there is no any FALD type panel from Tosh,all are EDGE-LED>>with Pro-LED(pseudo LD) or other baclit types too

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The 65L9400 is coming soon I guess just showed up for pre order on b&h

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1030215-REG/toshiba_65l9400u_65_4k_ultra_hd.html
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The 65L9400 is coming soon I guess just showed up for pre order on b&h

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1030215-REG/toshiba_65l9400u_65_4k_ultra_hd.html
It shows August 27th for availability though. However, it's supposed to be in the 2014 VE shootout which is over a month earlier than that, and Robert picks the TVs from his inventory, not manufacturer samples, so I'm not sure I believe that date.
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Yea I wouldn't believe that date the fact that it's up at this point means that date may be the earliest they can ship. Also notice most of the specs aren't on it so I'm guessing it's kind of a place holder signaling it's arrival. They did the same for the other 4k models and Lg's 2014 oled.
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The 65L9400 is coming soon I guess just showed up for pre order on b&h

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1030215-REG/toshiba_65l9400u_65_4k_ultra_hd.html

Respect for  the link

But no three dimensional

  • Quantum Black Local Dimming  if this like the 7400  This is ********  Worse from Samsung
  • Toshiba has closed two of three factories, making the last round
  • vizio p better and cheaper
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