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We pay a lot of money for tvs...for me at least, the problem with waiting 3 weeks is what if it doesn't fix the problem & then the return time is over... you're stuck with a brand new tv that doesn't work.

I've returned 2 60"7150 TVS thinking there's something wrong with the AMP... So i got the 65" 7150 & had the same issues, clearly something is wrong with Samsung
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Please check out my video of the tvs problem, let me know what you guys think
Samsung Un55h7150 flashing/flickering issue: http://youtu.be/96d3czYWNCg
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Please check out my video of the tvs problem, let me know what you guys think
Samsung Un55h7150 flashing/flickering issue: http://youtu.be/96d3czYWNCg
Well, that's certainly not normal..I just checked on mine & it doesn't do that at all.
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I switched cable boxes, hdmi cables, hdmi ports. Don't know what else I can try. It also happens on the credits screen kinda like the whole thing flashes.
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The areas that flash if you look real close you can see sometimes horizontal lines flash on and off
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For those interested, here is also the brighter gamma calibration using B.T.1886 gamma curve, which provides better dark detail and pops a little more. I prefer this gamma calibration myself, and H7150 did great with gamma tracking (graphs attached below).

--Picture menu--
Mode: Movie
Backlight: 8 (some may choose a bit higher backlight in brighter rooms)
Contrast: 99
Brightness: 48
Sharpness: 0
Color: 51
Tint: G50/R50

3D submenu: N/A

PIP: N/A

--Advanced settings--
Dynamic contrast: Low
Black tone: Dark
Flesh tone: 0 (potentially -3 for reduced redness in skin/facial tones, depending on preference)
RGB Only Mode: Off
Color space: Custom [see below]
White Balance: [see below]
10p White Balance: On
Gamma: 0
Expert Pattern: Off
Motion Lighting: Off [grayed out]

--Color Space--
Color Space: Custom
Red: Red 46, Green 0, Blue 1
Green: Red 13, Green 46, Blue 0
Blue: Red 0, Green 14, Blue 47
Yellow: Red 53, Green 48, Blue 0
Cyan: Red 0, Green 47, Blue 48
Magenta: Red 43, Green 14, Blue 45

White balance:
2 Point:
R-Offset: -5
G-Offset: -3
B-Offset: +3
R-Gain: +7
G-Gain: +1
B-Gain: -10

10 Point:
10%: Red +49, Green +50, Blue +28
20%: Red -24, Green -24, Blue -26
30%: Red -29, Green -29, Blue -34
40%: Red -26, Green -29, Blue -31
50%: Red -24, Green -25, Blue -28
60%: Red -18, Green -22, Blue -23
70%: Red -14, Green -16, Blue -15
80%: Red -7, Green -9, Blue -12
90%: Red +1, Green -4, Blue -6
100%: Red +3, Green +1, Blue -2

--Picture options--
Color tone: Warm2
Digital Clean View: Off
MPEG Noise Filter: Off
HDMI black level: Low
Film mode: Auto 1
Auto Motion Plus: Custom
Cinema Black: High

Auto Motion Plus submenu:
Blur reduction: 10
Judder reduction: 2
LED Clear Motion: Off
I really like these settings. Should they also be used for playing video games?

If not, do you think you could do a calibration for video games? Maybe even for the "Game Mode"?

Or does anyone on here have any settings for playing video games that they don't mind sharing? I'd really appreciate it. I'm huge gamer and have been struggling with trying to get the right picture. I just keep changing things back and forth, lol.

In the meantime, I have a question if someone could answer. What color temperature do video game developers shoot for when creating a game? Is it also 6500k? I'm currently using "Game Mode" with it set to Warm2.
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I really like these settings. Should they also be used for playing video games?

If not, do you think you could do a calibration for video games? Maybe even for the "Game Mode"?

Or does anyone on here have any settings for playing video games that they don't mind sharing? I'd really appreciate it. I'm huge gamer and have been struggling with trying to get the right picture. I just keep changing things back and forth, lol.

In the meantime, I have a question if someone could answer. What color temperature do video game developers shoot for when creating a game? Is it also 6500k? I'm currently using "Game Mode" with it set to Warm2.

I'm no expert, but I thought when you put the TV in game mode, it turns off a bunch of the processing and settings. Are not many of the settings greyed out in game mode? I'm an avid gamer, and always wondered about this too.

I'd love to get my hands on a Blu Monster's Ball.-LilStinky

Refering to a possible release of said movie on BD LOL
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The areas that flash if you look real close you can see sometimes horizontal lines flash on and off
Does the flashing stop when you pause the video? If so, the issue you're seeing is probably related to Dynamic Contrast or dimming settings.
... but if it continues to flash on and off when the video signal is not changing, it's a hardware fault.
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The areas that flash if you look real close you can see sometimes horizontal lines flash on and off
Does the flashing stop when you pause the video? If so, the issue you're seeing is probably related to Dynamic Contrast or dimming settings.
... but if it continues to flash on and off when the video signal is not changing, it's a hardware fault.
It stops flashing when paused but the dynamic contrast and dimming are set to off. I also noticed I just looked on Netflix and it didn't do it on there
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ground loop maybe? somehow connected to the recessed light circuit
Sounds about right. Does anyone know if buying a Power Conditioner will fix this problem? Or should I just get used to turning the lights off when I watch TV?

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They tried to tell me it was flashlighting and to wait 3 weeks and it will go away. I said flashlighting is just light spots and mine is only noticed on letter boxes but it starts dark and will flash lighter and darken again. They said oh, well wait 3 weeks anyway and call use for service if it doesn't go away. Told them I'm not servicing my brand new tv and I ended the convo
There's nothing normal about that video. Tell them to take this panel and SHOVE IT!

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I agree Newt, that's the plan
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Trying out Z-Mad's setting on my 55" H7150. Previously used Piratecove's F8000 settings.

Any idea why the HDMI Black Level option is greyed out?
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Sorry if I should be able to find the answer to this, but I guess I'm looking in the wrong place....Will someone please tell me which panel I will find in the un60h7150. Thank you. I'm hoping a Samsung....

Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield........
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We pay a lot of money for tvs...for me at least, the problem with waiting 3 weeks is what if it doesn't fix the problem & then the return time is over... you're stuck with a brand new tv that doesn't work.

I've returned 2 60"7150 TVS thinking there's something wrong with the AMP... So i got the 65" 7150 & had the same issues, clearly something is wrong with Samsung
It's not just samsung. Seems like the quality of panels this year suck, unless you want to spend $3k+ for 4k.

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Sorry if I should be able to find the answer to this, but I guess I'm looking in the wrong place....Will someone please tell me which panel I will find in the un60h7150. Thank you. I'm hoping a Samsung....
All 60" panels are Sharp. That's the reason I went bigger to get a Samsung panel.

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Benananda, certainly welcome on the settings - glad if they help get some level of improvement on your set as well.

Regarding black tone, as well as most other "enhancement" type settings, I would normally keep them all switched off as well. However, sometimes I give some of them a try (depending on TV) at least to see if they offer any level of improvement in overall picture quality and viewing experience - and anything that can help with black levels is generally welcome. So I am simply giving black tone a try: so far I am not certain if it truly helps much or if it just further lowers brightness overall. So playing with the black tone setting should be done in combination with the brightness setting. If you turn off the black tone, you can go lower with brightness, and if you set black tone higher, you need to increase brightness setting. It may be just a wash between the 2, so if you want to experiment with this as well, do let me know what you are seeing. Ultimately, the overall calibration will not be affected by it, so you just need to decide what looks better to you: black tone with increased brightness setting, or no black tone with lowered brightness setting. In the end, you just need to make sure you are seeing the deepest black the panel can produce without crushing detail.

LED clear motion introduces flicker that to me is noticeable. Some people are not sensitive to it and may not see the flicker, but some do. Clear motion uses black frame interpolation (basically strobes the backlight at a high rate that some don't notice but some do). If you do not notice the flicker, there is certainly nothing wrong with using clear motion. To increase the brightness of the picture due to clear motion making it a bit darker, do NOT change the brightness setting, but simply increase backlight setting! Clear motion does not reduce "brightness" but reduces light output, so it can be compensated for by increasing the backlight setting...

Hope this is helpful
Hey, ZMad. Thanks again for a great 10 point calibration. Here's my preliminary results/thoughts.

The first time I watched a film with your movie mode settings I was taken aback. SO dark! So, I tried your Cal-Day instead for color and White Balance (though I left it in movie mode). Well, that didn't work. Not sure what went wrong, but I tested 10point on and off and noticed a definite loss of detail in whites, such as in videos of clouds. Also, Black Tone definitely created a black crush at given settings. (though I still want to play with this in the future). So...I went back to piratecove's... and it was SO bright! lol. And washed out.

I now realize this was my initial reaction to movie mode (SO yellow) when it was actually pretty decent at stock setting after all. But, wanting more, I went back your B.T.1886 movie mode, now that my eyes had adjusted to the dark. Great! Love it!
with some amendments.

I took out Cinema Black (it kills the picture around black bars, planets, ect.) and Black Tone, and set brightness at 46. 46 is the number needed to get the most detail. 45 is a slight loss, and 47 is when you really notice the screen brighten. I certainly noticed the increase in dark detail because of the gamma curve. Excellent! Brights also popped like never before. Also the color is pretty good, muting the extremes found in the Auto setting without overly noticeable changes.

On LED Clear mode: I do notice the flicker on 60hz content and with natural light. In a dark room I never notice it, so lucky I guess. I do increase backlight to compensate, about 2-3 notches, but, with your settings I think I might be losing some of the contrast I've gained. I'm going to play with this some more, but I don't want to lose any pop. I'm comfortable with a backlight no greater than 8, as I have no perceivable flashlighting at that level. We'll see. Maybe with black tone.... :-P

more to come!
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just got my 657150 yesterday have it all hooked up have some clouding only on black screen does not affect tv or movie viewing. picture is fantastic. watched tranformers 4 bluray last night outstanding picture also watched avatar in 3d on bluray best 3d I have seen. coming from a Panasonic gt50 65 inch the Samsung is better in my opinion. only one thing is I cannot find youtube on the apps page have all the others am I missing something.great tv for the 1700 I paid
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Please check out my video of the tvs problem, let me know what you guys think
Samsung Un55h7150 flashing/flickering issue: http://youtu.be/96d3czYWNCg
yeah...my Samsung doesn't come with that 'feature.' Hope you get a better one.
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I think I read that the entire stand does not touch the surface you place it on. Could someone tell me the width of the stand for the 65" which would touch the surface it is placed on? Thank you!!
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Sounds about right. Does anyone know if buying a Power Conditioner will fix this problem? Or should I just get used to turning the lights off when I watch TV?
electrician could probably fix the issue
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Trying out Z-Mad's setting on my 55" H7150. Previously used Piratecove's F8000 settings.

Any idea why the HDMI Black Level option is greyed out?
Search the thread, but I think it had something to do with the HDMI that is coming in to the TV. If you use a receiver, make sure it just passes through, and does not mess with the signal in any way. On my receiver, it goes to the TV with no processing.

I'd love to get my hands on a Blu Monster's Ball.-LilStinky

Refering to a possible release of said movie on BD LOL
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I'm no expert, but I thought when you put the TV in game mode, it turns off a bunch of the processing and settings. Are not many of the settings greyed out in game mode? I'm an avid gamer, and always wondered about this too.
Yeah, some of the settings are greyed out.

But it's mostly the settings under "Picture Options" like Digital Clean View, MPEG Noise Filter, Auto Motion Plus and Film Mode that are greyed out. I could be wrong, but I don't see any reason to really use those for gaming.

Under "Advanced Settings" the only thing that's greyed out is 10 point white balance. You can customize the 2 point and color space.
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Yeah, some of the settings are greyed out.

But it's mostly the settings under "Picture Options" like Digital Clean View, MPEG Noise Filter, Auto Motion Plus and Film Mode that are greyed out. I could be wrong, but I don't see any reason to really use those for gaming.

Under "Advanced Settings" the only thing that's greyed out is 10 point white balance. You can customize the 2 point and color space.
You are in the wrong pic mode, need to be in movie, that happend to me with the 10 point.
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Anyone experiencing smart app issue? My hulu plus never works. It tries to open the app but goes to live TV after few seconds.. My TV is updated to the latest firmware... Help.
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Third time seems (seems) to be the charm...

Just received my third 65" 7150. Set it up...very carefully (the shipping box was destroyed in the process of shipping). Calibrated it quickly using the Spears & Munsil disc and have to say the panel is near perfect. This is what I was expecting the first time around.

Uniformity is unbelievably good. No banding. No flash-lighting. No clouding. Nothing but clarity and a fantastic picture.

So, for those who have issues, yes - it's a crap shoot (having been through two TH01 panels before this one, I was beginning to think it wasn't worth trying again...), but there are excellent panels out there.

Knocking wood as I write this, but this TV is incredible.

Onward...
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What about the Automotion Plus...is that working fine for you?
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What about the Automotion Plus...is that working fine for you?
Yes, the Automotion Plus feature is working very well actually.

I will write that I use the TV primarily for viewing Blu-rays through an OPPO BDP-103D and some streaming through a ROKU 3 (that runs through the OPPO). I don't have cable. I don't use it for gaming.

I have to say that this TV performs so much differently than the first two I had (and returned). The clarity (with Automotion Plus set to CLEAR) was incredible. No trailing during very dark scenes. No artifacts of any kind. Usually I'll set Automotion Plus to CUSTOM and fine tune it from there, but CLEAR looks great. The color on the new TV is outstanding. Everything about this particular set is different than the first two...and I don't know why (unless it's an extreme example of the panel lottery - even though the first two were TH01 panels).

It's only one night in. Something could happen. But, for the moment this TV is really impressive.
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So, I've read through this thread, and I just bought a un65h7150 (th01 panel). Will using Z-Mad's brighter gamma settings help make a great start for calibration, even though it's customized for a 75"? Also, I've been testing with the settings, and the picture still seems to have pixelated or a slight blur and unclear color overall. Is this a normal issue? It's especially apparent in SD channels and a little on the HD channels. Could it be that Time Warner only can broadcast cable up to 60i?
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I'm thinking about purchasing a Samsung 75" 7150 $3500 taxes in. Is everybody happy with their TV's...is there a better price out there? Or a better TV for this price range?


edit: After reading a lot of the write ups in here...it doesn't sound like many happy campers??? Return the tv 3 x's?


It would cost me more in gas than it's worth by the sound of it.

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