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Release date on the 2014 One Connect box anyone? We, 2013 F9000 owners, must get one.

 

Note: The Samsung CY_SUC10SH/ZA 1TB HDD UHD Video Pack is NOT compatible with 2013 One Connect boxes. All 2013 F9000 series UHDTV owners must upgrade to the 2014 model to stream 4K content on both this HDD and video streaming such as Netflix, which initiated 4K streaming on 4/8/14.


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I agree. I received the 2013 promo HDD from Samsung with several UHD 4k features on it and it was incredible but brief. I then purchased the CY-SUC10SH/ZA HDD and NOTHING will play until I install the 2014 Samsung One Connect box. When will it be released?

I was in a Best Buy store Monday (5-5) and just happened to run into a Samsung representative there. I asked her when the 2014 Samsung One Connect SEK-2500u box was going to be released and she said she wasn't sure. She said she was on a conference call last week with Samsung and stated that many who purchased a 2013 series 9000 are waiting for the release and she reminded them they said spring. Their reply was soon. No more definite then that. I did get a Samsung pen for being such a loyal (read early adopter who spent too much for my 65" UHD). Funny, that pen doesn't make my TV stream 4k or make it able to play the five movies in 4k I have .
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Netflix 4K streaming went live on 4/8. The only few lucky viewers are those who purchased a 2014 model in the pat few weeks. C'mon, Samsung. We love your products. Supply needs to catch up with the strong demand here.
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The 2014 One Connect box carries four HDMI 2.0 inputs supporting 50/60Hz UHD playback, as well as compatibility with the MHL 3.0 spec (which supports 4k formats up to 2160p30) and support for both the HEVC UHD delivery system being used by Netflix and the HDCP 2.2 anti-piracy standard. None of these connection options were available on last year’s Samsung UHDTVs, but owners of those TVs will soon be able to buy the new connections box and thus instantly enjoy the upgraded connectivity.

 

With so much confusion surrounding the UHD HDMI situation last year, we always felt that the upgradable connections box was a massive attraction, and even though the HDMI situation is more established now, it’s still early enough in UHD’s life for us to still find Samsung’s unique upgradability hugely reassuring.

The more advanced connectivity is far from the only advance the new 2014 One Connect box carries versus last year’s though. It also houses a considerably more powerful ‘brain’: a Quad Core Plus 1.8GHz system that apparently runs twice as fast as last year’s 1.3GHz engine. This is used to drive a more powerful video processing engine – including local dimming of the edge LED lighting array that’s delivered over more separately controlled zones than Samsung has attempted on a ‘mainstream’ TV before.

The extra power is also put to use with improving the upscaling of HD and standard definition content to the screen’s UHD pixel count, and, intriguingly, it powers a new PureColor technology that simplifies the color processing system while also providing more than seven times as many color adjustment points as any previous Samsung TV. Resulting, hopefully, in a much more defined and rich color palette.
 

Read more at http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-ue65hu8500_TV_review#PzccwrFvHFHHTuTV.99


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It seems the European version (SEK-2500U/ZG) was released today. I ordered mine from German Amazon, it should arrive next week. I can't believe it is available in Europe before US, usually its the other way.
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SAMSUNG UE65F9000 UHD

Hi there, New to this so please forgive for any silly questions I ask, First of all OK although my retailer who I bought the TV from didn't explain to me that possibly I would have to upgrade my connect box I did my research and knew this at the time, I read  that early owners  would be able to upgrade by part exchange for a nominal fee, I do not feel £400 is a nominal fee. SAMSUNG have ripped us off well and truly, who's  to say that one year down the line  2015 we will have to upgrade again. When you pay £5000 for a TV rightly or wrongly I would expect some loyalty wouldn't you. Or am I totally off track here.


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The 2014 One Connect box carries four HDMI 2.0 inputs supporting 50/60Hz UHD playback, as well as compatibility with the MHL 3.0 spec (which supports 4k formats up to 2160p30) and support for both the HEVC UHD delivery system being used by Netflix and the HDCP 2.2 anti-piracy standard. None of these connection options were available on last year’s Samsung UHDTVs, but owners of those TVs will soon be able to buy the new connections box and thus instantly enjoy the upgraded connectivity.

With so much confusion surrounding the UHD HDMI situation last year, we always felt that the upgradable connections box was a massive attraction, and even though the HDMI situation is more established now, it’s still early enough in UHD’s life for us to still find Samsung’s unique upgradability hugely reassuring.


The more advanced connectivity is far from the only advance the new 2014 One Connect box carries versus last year’s though. It also houses a considerably more powerful ‘brain’: a Quad Core Plus 1.8GHz system that apparently runs twice as fast as last year’s 1.3GHz engine. This is used to drive a more powerful video processing engine – including local dimming of the edge LED lighting array that’s delivered over more separately controlled zones than Samsung has attempted on a ‘mainstream’ TV before.


The extra power is also put to use with improving the upscaling of HD and standard definition content to the screen’s UHD pixel count, and, intriguingly, it powers a new PureColor technology that simplifies the color processing system while also providing more than seven times as many color adjustment points as any previous Samsung TV. Resulting, hopefully, in a much more defined and rich color palette.

 
Read more at http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-ue65hu8500_TV_review#PzccwrFvHFHHTuTV.99

I sure hope you are right, and I know that the processing on the UH9000 contains all the features you described above; but I've seen nothing to confirm that those same features will be available on the F9000 merely by the addition of the new upgraded one connect box. In fact, I've read (bing translation of a German reviewer) that to date Samsung won't say if for instance PurColor will be available with the new one connect box.
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SAMSUNG UE65F9000 UHD
Hi there, New to this so please forgive for any silly questions I ask, First of all OK although my retailer who I bought the TV from didn't explain to me that possibly I would have to upgrade my connect box I did my research and knew this at the time, I read  that early owners  would be able to upgrade by part exchange for a nominal fee, I do not feel £400 is a nominal fee. SAMSUNG have ripped us off well and truly, who's  to say that one year down the line  2015 we will have to upgrade again. When you pay £5000 for a TV rightly or wrongly I would expect some loyalty wouldn't you. Or am I totally off track here.

As far as I'm concerned, providing an upgrade path is "loyalty". The HDMI 2.0 standard had not even been finalized when the F9000 first went on sale last year. It's not like they decided to exclude something that was available, just so they could sell an upgrade this year. Name one product where the manufacturer provides free upgrades (other than a safety defect) a year later when new features are available.
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It seems the European version (SEK-2500U/ZG) was released today. I ordered mine from German Amazon, it should arrive next week. I can't believe it is available in Europe before US, usually its the other way.

I'm no "techie"; but are you sure it will work here (i.e., European 50hz vs our 60hz)?
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I'm no "techie"; but are you sure it will work here (i.e., European 50hz vs our 60hz)?
I'm in Europe, so it should work for me. I highly doubt it will work with US TVs.

I did read in German forum today that some people have already gotten it and it does not work at all. It asks for a update that is not available, so no one can use it. It seems Samsung messed up again
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It was only a month or so after I bought mine that Panasonic brought out there UHD TVs incorporating the 0.2 standard, you mean to tell me that SAMSUNG as big as they are did not know that the 0.2 standard would not be the adopted,that's is hard to believe. I guess i'm angry with myself for buying into this at an early stage and now i'm paying dear, especially when you cannot use the TV to its full potential,what was the point of it all, yes an upgradable TV is attractive but when you think all I had to do is wait a year pay less and have a TV which will give me 4k.An expensive mistake and as i said who's to say you will need a further £400 for a future upgrade,the general public are not going to buy into this at all.
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I just purchased the f9000 a week ago. How can i tell which year this tv was built. Also, how would i know if i need the 2014 one connect box.
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I just bought the SEK-2500U/ZG evolution kit for the 2013 UE55F9000. I have tried to connect using the OLD One Connect cable (as it's running through the wall) but it's not working, it just shows picture on the screen asking for the cable to be connected to the TV. Does anyone know if you need to use the new cable supplied with the kit or should the old one still work?


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I just bought the SEK-2500U/ZG evolution kit for the 2013 UE55F9000. I have tried to connect using the OLD One Connect cable (as it's running through the wall) but it's not working, it just shows picture on the screen asking for the cable to be connected to the TV. Does anyone know if you need to use the new cable supplied with the kit or should the old one still work?
According to German Samsung support, F9000 needs a firmware update to work with the new evolution kit. This firmware update has not been released yet and there is no official release date. According to Samsung support, the evolution kit should not be available yet.
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Oh.. so do you think it should work when the firmware becomes available? Is the model I bought OK for the TV in the UK? Many thanks


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The extra power is also put to use with improving the upscaling of HD

Who promises you that ? Where is Written ?  the hardware might not stand it  ?

 

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This is used to drive a more powerful video processing engine – including local dimming

Who promises you that ? Where is Written ?  the hardware might not stand it  ?

 

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improving the upscaling of HD and standard definition content to the screen’s UHD pixel count, and, intriguingly, it powers a new PureColor technology that simplifies the color processing system

pure coloer It Hardware  You will not get


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I just purchased the f9000 a week ago. How can i tell which year this tv was built. Also, how would i know if i need the 2014 one connect box.

Believe nameplate on back of display includes the month the display was manufactured. You don't "need" the 2014 one connect box unless you want HDMI 2.0, h.265 and HDCP 2.2. They allow streaming of 4k video from Netflix, Amazon, etc. Plus, you would probably be ready when/if we have 4k players.
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All F9000 series UHDTVs are the 2013 model, despite their manufacture date. Mine was manufactured February 2014. It is still a 2013 model. The serial number, manufacture date and other info is on a silver sticker on the right side of the back of the TV. All 2013 F9000 UHDTVs require the 2014 One Connect box upgrade to receive all 4K benefits. 


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Oh.. so do you think it should work when the firmware becomes available? Is the model I bought OK for the TV in the UK? Many thanks
Yes, I think it should work. As far as I know, the SEK-2500U/ZG is the European version and it should work with all European TVs.
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OK so I guess I'll keep an eye out for the firmware update. One final question, do you think it should be OK with the original One Connect cable - not liking the thought of trying the re-thread a new one through the wall! Thanks for your help


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OK so I guess I'll keep an eye out for the firmware update. One final question, do you think it should be OK with the original One Connect cable - not liking the thought of trying the re-thread a new one through the wall! Thanks for your help
No idea. You can try it after the firmware update gets released.

Can you test if the new smart remote works without the new one connect box?
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Yes, the new remote works just fine. Do you have a link for where I might see when the firmware has been upgraded?


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Yes, the new remote works just fine. Do you have a link for where I might see when the firmware has been upgraded?
Thats great! Then i can at least use the new remote when my evolution kit gets delivered and there still is no update available.

Usually Samsung posts updates on their support website, so you can check there http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/model/UE55F9000STXXU
You can also check for updates in TV menu under Support > Software update
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Great, thanks. As I was looking through the instructions, it says to go to Systems menu and run the "backup evolution kit". In fact, when you look for that, it doesn't exist so I guess the firmware update will add that and hopefully it means you won't lose any of your settings with the new evolution kit. Good luck, please let me know how you are getting on when you receive yours.


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OK so I guess I'll keep an eye out for the firmware update. One final question, do you think it should be OK with the original One Connect cable - not liking the thought of trying the re-thread a new one through the wall! Thanks for your help

I'm betting 90% plus that the original cable works!
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You would hope so! I thought that could be the only explanation why it wasn't working and then I found this thread. It's strange that you can get hold of the kit, but the firmware isn't released yet.


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If the manual doesn't say you have to use the new cable then the old one should work.

Yes its strange that the product is available before anyone can actually use it. There is not much information about the product either, but yet we buy it...
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pcnation.com has them listed for sale at a discount and when I phoned 5/9/2014 they said their inventory should arrive next week.


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pcnation.com has them listed for sale at a discount and when I phoned 5/9/2014 they said their inventory should arrive next week.


I have pre-ordered the SEK-2500u from PCNation and I talked to a sales rep around May 1st. He told me that Samsung would release the One Connect box on May 8th. Well, you know that didn't happen! :mad:

 

I sure hope your sales rep has better information. :rolleyes: 


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I have spoken to several people - retailers and samsung - they have told me that theg SEK-2500/ZG model is not meant for the UK TV's. The model for sale in the UK is SEK-2500/XC.

 

Samsung UK customer support told me yesterday that the SEK-2500/XC is available in very small quantities right now, with more coming this week. I know one retailer who sold his allotment of 8 last week, and it going to ring me when more come in. So far nobody has complained to him that they don't work.

 

I was completely warned off purchasing the ZG model and I hope that this who bought it for UK sets aren't completely disappointed. 

 

For reference, are there any XC owners out there on the forums?



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