Originally Posted by Adamd
I don't think it's corner cutting, Sonys 4k sets have the least lag, it must taken much more processing power to upscale to 4k. I bet if you feed a 4k gaming signal the lag would go way down.
The only problem here is the set has no display port connection and cannot do 4k at 60fps. And neither the PS4 or Xbox 1 will anytime soon as they are HDMI 1.4. So upscaling is here and cannot be shut off. Sony is also mum on specifics often. Panasonic AX900 and even Samsungs 9000 seem to have a much heartier processor inside.
What I find interesting is Apple iPads seem to be able to upscale stuff on a mobile device that has battery limitations. Why are television manufacturers so unwilling to invest in the chipset processing and get in bed with the likes of Google or even Apple (Apple probably would never allow it though) and wow us instead of focus on insane margins. I know the 950B has a cost somewhere of 4,000 to 5,000 depending on some of the larger resellers. So thats a large amount of profit for resellers. Plus what Sony's profit is on selling to the vendors.
The Kuru Elites were expensive but you got what you paid for. I am simply not seeing it on the 950B and I'm sure that will likely hack a few off. But I know what I want and would like in a new set. And it needs to really shine over a tv that's a couple years old at this price point and several thousand dollars more. I don't subscribe to the school of thought that a higher price tag guarantees a vastly better product, or even marginally now days. Seems like a great stride forward and then like cars, features are removed and then incrementally added each year to sell you in buying the newer tech.
Originally Posted by papaduxx
When you say it wasn't bad, was it noticeable? How could you tell the older 950 1080p set handled the lag better?
I've played COD games a lot. And while not scientific with equipment, you get a good feel for how much time lapses when playing. I also had one set on the floor hooked up to a extra 360 and my other set running as usual. So I could do a side by side comparison. As stated before, the up conversion must add some slight delay. For most , they would probably be fine and not notice. Doing a side by side, just as they do in a TV shoutout, that's where I think you can tell. Otherwise, I probably would have said it felt about the same if not identical. But my 360 was also running through a Denon and then to the TV set vs being plugged directly into the 950B. So I'd assume the Denon setup on the old tv would likely have added a little bit of lag too. But I'm being unscientific about this. I would have expected the 950B to be equal to the 950 running through the Denon. But those are just my observations.