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dasher123's Avatar dasher123
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Only saw a thread on the 4K Panasonic TVs and not the rest of the models, so i thought I'd start a dedicated thread for the rest of the models.

Model line-up for US and prices here:
http://www.whathifi.com/news/panasonic-2014-tvs-sizes-prices-specs-pictures-release-dates

Another link (includes EU models) with prices:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/article.php?subaction=showfull&id=1395647244

Official press release:
http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prModelDetail?storeId=11301&catalogId=13251&itemId=706013&modelNo=Content01052014023726599&surfModel=Content01052014023726599

None of these are on Amazon, the only place to order right now seems to be Panasonic direct.

They all have this general design: (smart touch remote shown - see below for models that come with it)



Panasonic promotional video on Life+Screen (replaces VieraCast):
http://www.panasonic.com/globals/videoplayer/index.asp?videoID=1&xmlFile=assets/consumer/television/settings_TC-xxAS650U.xml

SERIES/MODELS and BASIC INFO:

AS680 Series: - (still not on Panasonic US website)
TC-55AS680U (55in)

Key Features:
- 3D
- Native 240Hz Refresh Rate
- Life+ Screen
- Built in wi-fi-
- smart touch remote
- HEXA processing engine

AS650 Series:
TC-60AS650U (60in)
TC-55AS650U (55in)
TC-50AS650U (50in)

Key Features:
- 3D
- Life+ Screen
- 1500 Backlight Scanning
- Built in wi-fi
- smart touch remote
- HEXA-Processing Engine

AS640 Series:

TC-60AS640U (60in)

Key Features:
- 3D
- Home Theater System Bundle
- Life+ Screen
- Built-in wi-fi
- 240 Backlight Blinking
- Media Player
- HEXA-Processing Engine
- smart touch remote

AS530 Series:

TC-60AS530U (60in)
TC-55AS530U (55in)
TC-50AS530U (50in)
TC-39AS530U (39in)

Key Features:
- Life+ Screen
- Built-in wi-fi
- 240 Backlight Blinking
- Media Player
- Voice guidance
- DLNA
- Narrow bezel

A400 Series*:

TC-50A400U (50in)
TC-39A400U (39in)
TC-32A400U (32in)

Key Features:
- Media Player
- 120 Backlight Blinking
- Narrow Bezel
*This Series does not feature Life+ Screen.

Some general Panasonic features here:
http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-60AS530U?sc_sp=shop-l2-led_banner_shop_TC-60AS530U-40388_4072014
dasher123's Avatar dasher123
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Bump to see if anyone has interest or own one already...
please post impressions if you do, or if you have tested/checked out this any of the above models in real life, or if you have any additional info.
Thanks.
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I don't think the AS530 series has 3D.
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you're right - Thanks!
That web page must have been mistaken.
I have corrected info on my initial post
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Picked up the Panny Model: TC-32A400U at BB for guest BR placement. Great price for a 32, so no real nitpicking from me. The only advice I might seek from the members would be their fine tuning experiences. The picture is bright as expected, but seems, to me, a bit blown out. The custom presets the contrast to 100, panel brightness at 50 and backlight at 80. The movie presets contrast to 100, brightness at 50 and backlight at 50. The room is quite bright, but I'm bumping down the contrast and backlight by a bit and see how it shapes up. Any thoughts appreciated. Thanks.
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Just picked up a 50as630u model...
I can't seem to find any information out there about it ANYWHERE!

I've seen reviews of the 530 model, but can't seem to figure out what the difference is between it and the 530.

Anyways.... this isn't my TV... It's the in-laws.

I had a chance to play around with it briefly.
Seems like a very nice panel. The darks are REALLY dark I find.

Unfortunately, the room it is in has quite a bit of light, so it's difficult to really gauge the quality.
I watched a few minutes of the latest Bourne movie, and the motion quality was definitely noticeable ( in a good way ) compared to my Sony ex700 model.

I'd like to calibrate it, but I wonder why I would bother. The light variation in the room is so great that the results might not be worth it.

I really like the smart features. They are a super breeze to use. DLNA was very very easy.
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On the Canadian website there is the AS800 for sale yet I see it isn't there on the U.S. site. I also see that the Canadian model numbers are apparently slightly different. We have a 660 here and 630 which may be a mish mash of the 650 and 640 there. Who knows.

Are you guys supposed to get the AS800? Some web pages say yes yet it seems odd it wouldn't be available if it is in Canada right now. The set I believe is FALD so it sounds like it might be pretty good.

Oh and Panasonic's web sites are horrible as is all this model number/model line gibberish.
dasher123's Avatar dasher123
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Originally Posted by Slash1953 View Post

Picked up the Panny Model: TC-32A400U
This thread is only for the models listed in the opening post.
you might get more responses if you posted in a/the thread dedicated to your TV model.
Thanks.
Slash1953's Avatar Slash1953
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Many thanks. New at posting a query. I think I've got it looking about as good as can be expected with the controls available. Should I delete the original post? Don't want to clutter the thread. Thanks again.
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No problem. Glad you like the set. smile.gif congrats!
you *can* delete* the original post, but make sure you have found a more suitable thread for your query before deleting it.
Slash1953's Avatar Slash1953
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Thanks, videobruce. It's not a main telly, so the settings aren't crucial. I've got the 60VT60 in my room, and that's about the Grail, to me. I've got 4 different screen modes set, but I've just now made myself quit fiddling and just enjoy the picture. I still like to get the best picture I can on anything. (OCB) Ha! Plus, if I'm spending 'x' dollars, I still like bang for the buck. I'll peruse those links, so thanks again!
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How much of a "gimmick" is their "BLS" and is the AS800 the only one with local dimming and a IPS panel??
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How much of a "gimmick" is their "BLS" and is the AS800 the only one with local dimming and a IPS panel??

Yes I think the AS800 is the only one. Does the AS800 finally show up on the U.S site? Seems odd they wouldn't sell it there given it is apparently a FALD set unless they feel there is no point with Vizio offering similar sets for much less.

From what I gather the AS800 is like a lower end (and FHD of course) version of the future AX900. Too bad it doesn't have more dimming zones.
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"Does the AS800 finally show up on the U.S site? Seems odd they wouldn't sell it there given it is apparently a FALD set unless they feel there is no point with Vizio offering similar sets for much less."
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Or, they are waiting to see how the rest of the market plays out. I'm sure they are concerned about having a set close in features to their top of the line for much less. IOW's marketing.
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I bought a TC-55AS530U last night. I only had a few minutes to watch it after getting it mounted but so far its got a really nice picture. If anyone has any questions let me know and I will try to answer when I get home tonight.
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Yes, screen uniformity with a black, gray and white screens. Any hot spots, flashlighting etc?
Black level with the ;gimmicks' on, then off.
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post
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Or, they are waiting to see how the rest of the market plays out. I'm sure they are concerned about having a set close in features to their top of the line for much less. IOW's marketing.
Seems unlikely that they'd release the set everywhere but the U.S if they were concerned about that. Also seems unlikely that they will magically release the set later on when prices will have depressed and watch it hardly sell as many wonder why they should drop over 2k on the Panasonic set when they can get a Vizio for basically half that...assuming of course they release it at the price it is now.

I also think it is unlikely that anyone who may be looking for a high end FHD set (especially if they want a fald set) and doesn't want or care about UHD is going to just buy the AX800 or the future AX900 at a higher price and not having the AS800 out there means one less potential customer. This may be the case if Panasonic is the only brand but we know they aren't so buyers will just look elsewhere.

Then again it is Panasonic who don't feel getting their sets out into stores is a smart business model as though everyone is dying to blind buy direct order from them or will wait for their sets to eventually show up so maybe it is just "marketing"
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Seems unlikely that they'd release the set everywhere but the U.S if they were concerned about that. Also seems unlikely that they will magically release the set later on when prices will have depressed and watch it hardly sell as many wonder why they should drop over 2k on the Panasonic set when they can get a Vizio for basically half that...assuming of course they release it at the price it is now.

I also think it is unlikely that anyone who may be looking for a high end FHD set (especially if they want a fald set) and doesn't want or care about UHD is going to just buy the AX800 or the future AX900 at a higher price and not having the AS800 out there means one less potential customer. This may be the case if Panasonic is the only brand but we know they aren't so buyers will just look elsewhere.

Then again it is Panasonic who don't feel getting their sets out into stores is a smart business model as though everyone is dying to blind buy direct order from them or will wait for their sets to eventually show up so maybe it is just "marketing"
Yeah bump on this. I'd really like to see the AS800 in the US. Sure I'll probably grab a new M Vizio, but I can't see it matching Panasonic PQ even though it will represent a better value.
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Yes, screen uniformity with a black, gray and white screens. Any hot spots, flashlighting etc?
Black level with the ;gimmicks' on, then off.
I will need to download something to get those colors on screen. I watched some of The Dark Knight and the credits, no flashlighting that I could detect. That was with Standard mode and Cinema mode. I will try and do some more scientific tests. Sorry but I ran short of time tonight.
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Don't you have a DVD test disc??
There is something available in a link in this forum (and probably elsewhere) that is free. Watching dark movies are not going to work effectively.

You can start here;
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-display-calibration/
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I am still looking for an IPS TV that is 40-42". I saw the 40AS650D on the Panasonic site, but can't find it anywhere on sale except for random Indian places. It's literally the only TV in this size that advertises itself as IPS. I've been searching TVs for various brands for days. No one seems to know (or care) whether their panel is IPS or VA and saying the TV has "great viewing angles, great blacks, great colors" really doesn't help me at all. The only other IPS I can think of is the 42" LG models, and there *might* be a panel lottery for it, which I don't want to deal with. I recently bought, and returned, a 39" LG that had a VA panel. It helped me reconfirm that I do not like VA at all (literally ALL 39" TVs are VA since they are AMVA panels made by either AUO or Innolux). I also don't like the coating on it, which was semi-gloss but still very reflective, so all these issues make me leery of the 42" LG. The only other IPS TV at this size is the Panasonic mentioned above, which I cannot find anywhere. My previous TV is also an IPS Panasonic and is still very nice, but I want to upgrade to something bigger/thinner/newer. If anyone has any suggestions for other IPS TVs in the 40-42" size, please tell me. I get the feeling the people in these TV threads are getting dumber and dumber, compared to five years ago when I searched for a TV then.
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Don't you have a DVD test disc??
There is something available in a link in this forum (and probably elsewhere) that is free. Watching dark movies are not going to work effectively.

You can start here;
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-display-calibration/
I downloaded the AVS 709 disc. But I did not see any completely White/Gray/Black screens on it.
Also, when I manage to find the screens, is an iPhone 5s good enough to take a pic with?
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silverwolf0;
Thinner isn't better.
Looks like you did your homework. What size do you have now?

ken984;
You are asking the wrong person about using one of those annoyances to use as a camera. I guess it's better than nothing. Take numerous shots, the more the better and post the best.
Do a on-line search for something else. I'm not familiar with that file since I only have a DVD player.

Try these for starters;
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silverwolf0;
Thinner isn't better.
Looks like you did your homework. What size do you have now?

ken984;
You are asking the wrong person about using one of those annoyances to use as a camera. I guess it's better than nothing. Take numerous shots, the more the better and post the best.
Do a on-line search for something else. I'm not familiar with that file since I only have a DVD player.

Try these for starters;
Ok, I'll see what I can do this weekend. Thanks for your help.
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http://www.twice.com/news/tv/panason...mart-tvs/45745

Quote:
Newark, N.J. — Panasonic on Friday released pricing and availability on additional models in its AS650 Life+Screen connected FullHD LED LCD TV line.
The lineup includes the 50-inch ($1,199 suggested retail) and 60-inch ($1,699) screen sizes in addition to the previously announced 55-inch ($1,499) screen size. The new models have launched exclusively through Panasonic.com, the company said.
Panasonic said the line would be offered online “to start,” indicating that other retail distribution avenues may arise in time. It is one of only a couple of Life+Plus Screen-enabled TV series not sold exclusively, or in tandem with, Best Buy this year

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Has anyone seen a TC-55AS680U? I went to BestBuy to look at one on display but there seemed to be huge reflection issues. I was trying to compare this TV to a Samsung UN55H7150.
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How much of a "gimmick" is their "BLS" and is the AS800 the only one with local dimming and a IPS panel??
I was in a BB and it sure looks like the AS640 is an IPS panel. Also Panasonic's Specifications show the viewing angle for the AS640 as 178 (vs the as530 at 176).

I believe that all Panasonic panels with 3D are IPS.
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Yes, screen uniformity with a black, gray and white screens. Any hot spots, flashlighting etc?
Black level with the ;gimmicks' on, then off.
Recently bought the 39AS530U. Here are some photos taken _after_ I tweeked the settings. In contrast to other recommendations (Cnet and Reviewed.com). I set my:

Backlight: 30
Brightness +4
Contrast to 70 (I was getting Color clipping on Red and BLue)
"Gimmicks"
Adaptive Back Lighting: Off (FYI, very irritating in real life)
CATS: Off
Video NR: Off
Mpeg NR: Off
Contrast A/I: Off

For the people asking I also did a Lag test (last photo). From multiple tests it looks like lag is around 60ms. I tried turning off all the features and it did not improve the response time. When I have the time I will try the same test with the gimmicks on. (also looking for any setting for my digital camera to improve the photos)
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Contrast to 70 (I was getting Color clipping on Red and BLue)
That's a huge problem with many LCD sets that most are not aware of which includes these so called professional tests/reviews. They all spend their time talking about color accuracy, but fail or rarely mention clipping.

What is "CATS"?

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