Originally Posted by renji1337
I just looked at some sets and its hard to pick lol, the vizio itself looked just as decent as the sony/samsung I saw.
mind you im going to be using this tv on a HTPC would it be possible to use my normal colorimeter for my pc monitors(a spyder4) and make an ICC profile for the tv? also are there any tv's with perfect 24p playback in my price range? if not I can make custom resolutions.
also I have a second question here if anyone knows it!
Gaming PC Monitor Outputs
Going to go look around on amazon and newegg at tv prices.
All HDTV via HDMI and Composite supports YCbCr 4:2:2 you can use YCbCr 4:4:4 (or even RGB sometimes) but the panel will receive the usual RGB after it is converted in the case of YCbCr XXX in the TV anyway so it will not see YCbCr 4:4:4. You can try to set up a custom *color *profile I don't know if the TV (or any TV ) will display it properly though maybe you know some websites or forums that can answer that otherwise YCbCr 4:2:2 should work fine you can set
different profiles from the GPU (s) to your monitors and TV anyway .
Some Game consoles including PS3 and 4 (and probably X bones ? ) and PC can support:4:4:4 and 0-255 RGB .
There are *some TV's* that can support 4:4:4 or 0-255 all the way to and including the panel
IOW if your TV panel and video board supports 4:4:4 and by implication RGB 0-255 all the way to and including the panel you can use it if not using it can degrade your picture depends on the TV .
Sony *should be closest in 24 P playback with Cine motion auto enabled
thats what it does . most leave it on . other sets may have something similar or not check the specs dawg
custom resolutions won't work much on an HDTV much like they do on a PC monitor for the most part you are going to be using 1080p ( 1920x1080 (recommended ) 720p (1366x768 ) you *can use * 1440 x900 also not much beyond that will scale from a PC GPU or be recognized by the TV . HDMI 1.x supports *up to * 1080p/60 or 1080i/30 or 720p/60 /480p /480i 23.976 *should be OK also no more than that on a 2K set that's as good as it gets . You can use HDMI from PC to TV or DVI-D /HDMI
If you don't mind refurbished (most of the sets here are really brand new
) just out of the retail sales channel
maybe something like a slightly damaged box ,end of model year and the set inside fine (they test them ) I bought one from them it was new and tested saved a ton top rated plus seller .They have all the usual brands including Vizio most of the time.
Oh I've seen the FALD Vizio, a few of them (not bad for the money) Sony and Toshiba along with Samsung had better pictures (specifically accurate color + not crushing whites and blacks and fine shadow detail IMO.) better panels and Video Processing probably Sony ,Samsung,Toshiba ,LG and Panasonic all make their own Silicon and share that throne. others buy generic off shelf stuff . I don't buy what I read at cnet I buy what I see and also by past experience .
Old saying goes like this : "buy cheap twice ,buy good once "
Amazon is good watch out for Newegg on TV's cool for PC stuff not so hot for TV's poor TV return policies and refurb are poor quality sometimes The link above is good for refurb they sell about 1500 sets a month so they know what they are doing no tax free shipping + fast 5 days across the country .
You can use your Coloromiter and maybe something like a spears and munsil HD reference disc but that would calibrate it to ATSC Rec.709 . Maybe you can make an ICC profile with your Syder and whatever else you have in one of the modes but you will need a TV that lets you customise more than just one mode . Sony does that some other sets *may not * check the reviews about that some say some don't .
I actually went BB to buy a Sammy 5xxx at BB having seen one with a good panel there before but unfortunately one with the right panel (s) (we looked in back also ) was not to be had that's how I ended up with the Sony , in that
case a better set
Samsung 53/5500 not bad at all if you win the Samsung panel lottery not so hot if you don't and get the wrong panel. If you can get one with one of the good panels they are very good .. real good you might even know it when you see one there is that much diff in the panels . I spotted it right away knew something was up .I would have been cool with one with the right panel . I had my panel codes with me also couldn't find any in the back.
, TBH Sammie 5XXX with a good panel... almost or virtually for the most part a dead heat with the Sony and that's a compliment because the Sony is that good.... ofc it has a Samsung panel and all ☺.
I spotted it right away (panel thing) knew something was up .I would have been cool with one with the right panel . I had my panel codes with me also couldn't find any in the back either .
Sometimes folks don't agree on everything but I think we found common ground on the Samsung
If you like the Vizio thats fine ............... your money after all .
I would still take the right xxf5300 Sammy plasma over the Vizio ,the Sammy 53/5500 (with the right panel ) also
(or lot of LCD short of a Sony 8.5 x or 9x ) any day except maybe in bright direct sunlight so would most others here that aren't LCD fanboy . Katzmier has an opinion doesn't mean it's always right
plenty of better reviewers out there he' s OK just not the best