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Official Sony KDL-70W830B owners thread

I had my Samsung 60" 3D HDTV for over two years... see my home theater setup in sig.... time to upgrade.

Got my Sony 70" 3D HDTV KDL-70W830B today from Costcos for $1,999, $500 rebate.
Got it setup in my living room and watched a few shows. Not bad at all out of the box.
I will experiment with settings tomorrow and post what I used that looks best.

Here are some pics of when I saw it at Costco and right before I purchased it.





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Still tinkering but here are the current settings that look good for a fairly dark room.

Below you'll find the settings I found best for viewing the Sony KDL-70W830B in a dim room via the HDMI input. Your settings may vary depending on source, room conditions, and personal preference.

Picture Mode: Cinema 1
Backlight: 3
Picture: 90
Brightness: 50
Color: 46
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Warm 2
Sharpness: 50
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Dot Noise Reduction: Off
Reality Creation: Off
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So far loving this 3D HDTV!
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Many of you may not know this... just because you have a 1080i HDTV, doesn't mean that is what your watching.
If you have a cable box, most are set to 720p! I checked my Motorola cable box and sure enough, set at 720p.

What you can do to check the settings on the cable box.
Turn the box off, but leave the TV set on.
Press the Menu button on the cable remote, and you will get a HD user settings menu.
The YPbPr option will be set at 720p, and you can change that to 1080i or the Native setting which is 1080i.

This explains why so many people buy the HDTV that looks so good in the showroom floor and when you get it home and it doesn't look as good. Also the showroom models have most of the settings on "max" too.
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Here is a pic of my new Sony70-3D-HDTV-KDL-70W830B



I find it hard to believe I'm the only one on this forum that has bought this HDTV?
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So am about to buy this or the vizio 70 m . Was the vizio ever on your list and pictures with it on thanks
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So am about to buy this or the vizio 70 m . Was the vizio ever on your list and pictures with it on thanks
I was actually after the Vizio 70" M series. But Best Buy didn't have it in stock and neither did Costco... and after reading the reviews, I went with the Sony as both Best Buy & Costco had them in stock.
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Thing that worries me with the vizio is they have a lot of defective sets from reading the other thread . So would you go vizio over the Sony ? And why thank you going to place my order today
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Thing that worries me with the vizio is they have a lot of defective sets from reading the other thread . So would you go vizio over the Sony ? And why thank you going to place my order today
Like I said, I was after the Vizio, but not being in stock was a deal breaker.
I'm real glad I got the Sony.
Skin tones are very realistic, colors pop, crystal clear. Separate football, soccer, sports settings too! So far it has been a fantastic HDTV.
I like the brushed aluminum look too... sets it apart from the others.
Just be sure to go in a tweak the settings to get what you like. You have to do that with any brand you buy anyways as none are perfect out of the box.
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Thing that worries me with the vizio is they have a lot of defective sets from reading the other thread . So would you go vizio over the Sony ? And why thank you going to place my order today
Did you get/order the Sony? If so, when you get it, post your thoughts...
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Im really considering this set right now. I was too after a Vizio M. I was told by a sales rep that they had a 60'' M shipped to store for me and turns out they did not. But I believe they have the 830B's in stock at Best Buy so I could pick one up today and make my trip and fuel expenses worth while.

My only real question or concern is how the two compete with each other in terms of PQ.
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Differences between the Sony KDL-70W850B & Sony KDL-70W830B ?
One I think Best buy sells the Sony KDL-70W850B & Costco sells the Sony KDL-70W850B.
Also I think the Sony KDL-70W850B is the latest model.
The Sony KDL-70W830B looks nicer as it has the chrome stand and brushed aluminum wedge on the sides,
Whereas the Sony KDL-70W850B is all black. Kinda dull.

These seem the same here:
KDL-70W850B/60W850B/50W850B
KDL-70W840B/60W840B/50W840B
KDL-70W830B/60W830B/50W830B
KDL-70W800B/60W800B/50W800B
https://docs.sony.com/release/KDL-50...B_W850B_EN.pdf
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Thanks for posting! This TV has made it to my short list (the W840B model through Best Buy in Canada, but it's the same TV as your W830B model). I'm comparing it with the 65" Sony W850A, the 65" Sony W950B, and (randomly) the 70" Sharp LE550.

How has the picture been treating you? Have you noticed any radial banding, milky blacks, etc.? They're apparently using an IPS panel on this model that sacrifices a bit of black & contrast for view angle and was just wondering if you have any complaints.

(Note, the only reason the Sharp is on my list is because the 70" Sony is $2899 while the 70" Sharp is only $1299. I know you get what you pay for, but that difference is insane.)
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Thanks for posting! This TV has made it to my short list (the W840B model through Best Buy in Canada, but it's the same TV as your W830B model). I'm comparing it with the 65" Sony W850A, the 65" Sony W950B, and (randomly) the 70" Sharp LE550.

How has the picture been treating you? Have you noticed any radial banding, milky blacks, etc.? They're apparently using an IPS panel on this model that sacrifices a bit of black & contrast for view angle and was just wondering if you have any complaints.

(Note, the only reason the Sharp is on my list is because the 70" Sony is $2899 while the 70" Sharp is only $1299. I know you get what you pay for, but that difference is insane.)
I looked at all the ones you were looking at and then some. I had my shortlist down to 2, the Vizio 70" 3D HDTV & the Sony 70" 3D HDTV, leaning toward the Vizio. The Sharp 3D HDTV looked great too, but was $600 more, a deal breaker. However since Best Buy and Costco didn't have the Vizio in stock I went with the Sony. Glad I did as it is not only a better looking TV, (brushed alum wedge & chrome stand legs) it has been flawless the week I've had it once I tweaked the settings, (see 2nd post). I haven't tried 3D yet, but will this weekend as I just got the new 3D Pompeii. I'll post my opinion on that once I see the movie.
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I looked at all the ones you were looking at and then some. I had my shortlist down to 2, the Vizio 70" 3D HDTV & the Sony 70" 3D HDTV, leaning toward the Vizio. The Sharp 3D HDTV looked great too, but was $600 more, a deal breaker. However since Best Buy and Costco didn't have the Vizio in stock I went with the Sony. Glad I did as it is not only a better looking TV, (brushed alum wedge & chrome stand legs) it has been flawless the week I've had it once I tweaked the settings, (see 2nd post). I haven't tried 3D yet, but will this weekend as I just got the new 3D Pompeii. I'll post my opinion on that once I see the movie.
Ya that's my only worry heard a lot of negative on the 3d maybe they fixed some of it let us know
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I had my shortlist down to 2, the Vizio 70" 3D HDTV & the Sony 70" 3D HDTV, leaning toward the Vizio. However since Best Buy and Costco didn't have the Vizio in stock I went with the Sony. Glad I did as it is not only a better looking TV, (brushed alum wedge & chrome stand legs) it has been flawless the week I've had it once I tweaked the settings, (see 2nd post). I haven't tried 3D yet, but will this weekend as I just got the new 3D Pompeii. I'll post my opinion on that once I see the movie.
Yeah, unfortunately Vizios are almost impossible to get up here in Canada, and they only have 1 warrantee/repair centre in the whole country, so I think the Sony will win out by default.

Keep us posted on the 3D.
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Many of you may not know this... just because you have a 1080i HDTV, doesn't mean that is what your watching.
If you have a cable box, most are set to 720p! I checked my Motorola cable box and sure enough, set at 720p.

What you can do to check the settings on the cable box.
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This explains why so many people buy the HDTV that looks so good in the showroom floor and when you get it home and it doesn't look as good. Also the showroom models have most of the settings on "max" too.

I would leave it at 720p. A 1080i signal is going to look worse than a 720p signal.
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I would leave it at 720p. A 1080i signal is going to look worse than a 720p signal.
Wrong... a 1080i signal will always look better at 1080i, not 720p
What is nice about this Sony, when you set it to Native, it will set and show exactly what the show is, for an example, if it is a 720p program, it will set it for 720p... if it is a 1080i show, it will set it at 1080i.
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OK, I wanted to watch a 3D movie I've seen on my old Samsung Plasma 3D HDTV and compare to this Sony, so I watched the IMAX Hubble 3D tonight. It looked great and seemed better to me than my Samsung Plasma 3D I had. I didn't see any ghosting or crosstalk.
I'm pleased what I saw... but I will watch 3D Pompeii tomorrow as that is the latest 3D movie out before making final conclusions. Watching 3D is sure a lot of fun on a good set.
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Wrong... a 1080i signal will always look better at 1080i, not 720p
What is nice about this Sony, when you set it to Native, it will set and show exactly what the show is, for an example, if it is a 720p program, it will set it for 720p... if it is a 1080i show, it will set it at 1080i.
For a cable box, you want to set it to "native". If this option does not exist, I would choose 720p. Why? Because 1080i is horrible compared to a progressive signal. If you set it to 1080i, your cable box will convert every 720p channel to 1080 interlaced. How well do you think a cable box converts a progressive 720 signal into a 1080i signal? Not very well. Then after this, your television will convert it back to a progressive signal. Not very smart.
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For a cable box, you want to set it to "native". If this option does not exist, I would choose 720p. Why? Because 1080i is horrible compared to a progressive signal. If you set it to 1080i, your cable box will convert every 720p channel to 1080 interlaced. How well do you think a cable box converts a progressive 720 signal into a 1080i signal? Not very well. Then after this, your television will convert it back to a progressive signal. Not very smart.
The solution is easy:
You have an outdated cable box... go down to Comcast and get the latest cable box and set it to NATIVE... end of problem.
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The solution is easy:
You have an outdated cable box... go down to Comcast and get the latest cable box and set it to NATIVE... end of problem.
I personally don't pay for cable, so I was not talking about my situation. Just correcting your notion that 1080i is the best setting. Also, if you read my post, I explained that native would be the best setting.
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I personally don't pay for cable, so I was not talking about my situation. Just correcting your notion that 1080i is the best setting. Also, if you read my post, I explained that native would be the best setting.
I understood that.
Also if you read my post, I said there is no excuse for anyone not having the latest cable box.
Unless their too lazy to take it back and exchange it.
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I had my Samsung 60" 3D HDTV for over two years... see my home theater setup in sig.... time to upgrade.

Got my Sony 70" 3D HDTV KDL-70W830B today from Costcos for $1,999, $500 rebate.
Got it setup in my living room and watched a few shows. Not bad at all out of the box.
I will experiment with settings tomorrow and post what I used that looks best.

Here are some pics of when I saw it at Costco and right before I purchased it.




I added 3 pics to my first post. I want to add that it was so new, it was the first HDTV you saw all by itself when you walked into the Costco store. It was their newest addition, so this particular Sony is the latest as I haven't seen one anywhere else. I had gone in looking for the Vizio 70 3D HDTV when I went down there. Saw this and changed my mind as they didn't have the Vizio anymore.

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I added 3 pics to my first post. I want to add that it was so new, it was the first HDTV you saw all by itself when you walked into the Costco store. It was their newest addition, so this particular Sony is the latest as I haven't seen one anywhere else. I had gone in looking for the Vizio 70 3D HDTV when I went down there. Saw this and changed my mind as they didn't have the Vizio anymore.
I saw this set at my local Costco yesterday in Montebello, CA the price has gone up - there is only a $300 rebate on it now bringing the cost to $2199. The set was also by itself and looked pretty good - I am contemplating replacing my 60" Sharp 3D LED TV for the 70" Sony but 70" did not look that much larger compared to the 60" and I saw the Samsung 75" or Vizio 80" sets but unfortunately they lack 3D and 3D is very important to me.
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I saw this set at my local Costco yesterday in Montebello, CA the price has gone up - there is only a $300 rebate on it now bringing the cost to $2199. The set was also by itself and looked pretty good - I am contemplating replacing my 60" Sharp 3D LED TV for the 70" Sony but 70" did not look that much larger compared to the 60" and I saw the Samsung 75" or Vizio 80" sets but unfortunately they lack 3D and 3D is very important to me.
Costco had a Vizio 80" 3D HDTV, but it was $1,000 more than the Sonly 70".
I can tell you there is considerable difference between 60 & 70 as I had a 60. Well worth it.
This may be a Sharp, but gives you the perspective of 60 vs 70.
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Costco had a Vizio 80" 3D HDTV, but it was $1,000 more than the Sonly 70".
I can tell you there is considerable difference between 60 & 70 as I had a 60. Well worth it.
This may be a Sharp, but gives you the perspective of 60 vs 70.
Thanks for the comparison!!! Costco did have a Vizio 80" for $2999 but it did not mention 3D.
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Thanks for the comparison!!! Costco did have a Vizio 80" for $2999 but it did not mention 3D.
Vizio had a 80" non 3D for $2,499 and a 80" 3D for $2,999.
I have too many 3D movies not to have a 3D HDTV.
Besides some big 3D movies out now and more soon.
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Thanks for the comparison!!! Costco did have a Vizio 80" for $2999 but it did not mention 3D.
Here is the Vizio 80" 3D. You do have to look to see if it is 3D.
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Vizio had a 80" non 3D for $2,499 and a 80" 3D for $2,999.
I have too many 3D movies not to have a 3D HDTV.
Besides some big 3D movies out now and more soon.
I agree with you 100% - I have too many 3D movies here as well. I wanted the Sony 70" 830B but CNET gave the 850B bad reviews for 3D. Now, that I actually know of someone that owns the set I have confidence in purchasing the 70" 830B. I prefer Active 3D to Passive 3D which I believe is on the Vizio's. Is there any clouding or radial banding on your set?
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